August 2020 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Can one manually become a "Member Emeritus"
by Stefan Seyfried 09 Aug '21

09 Aug '21

Hi all, after reading https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members, I understand that I can cancel my membership status with immediate effect and forever. To become a "Member Emeritus", with a "way back" into the community in case things might turn good again, I have to wait for the status request and just not respond to it. But the last such request was almost 3 years ago. IIUC I need to stop all actions on the mailing lists (might be a good idea ;-)) and packaging (not so good) for the bot to pick me up. So is there a manual procedure to follow to become "Member Emeritus"? Best regards, Stefan -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] huge amount of SPAM on opensuse-connect
by christian.imhorst＠posteo.de 02 Jun '21

02 Jun '21

Hi, Am Do., 21. Feb. 2019 um 15:32 Uhr schrieb Lars Vogdt <Lars.Vogdt(a)suse.com>: As such, maintaining 447 [1] openSUSE members should not depend on a single tool. Especially not if the used tool has open, well known security issues since years[2]. On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:41:19 +0100 Richard Brown wrote: > This isn't the first time I've asked this question on a public stage, > but in the hope that this time I get an answer; > Who volunteers to tackle the problem with connect.o.o and drive > forward a solution? I made my proposal already and I stand the point: shut down an insecure system! what does "drive forward a solution" mean? Can we integrate the functions of connect.o.o into other services at openSUSE which are allready maintained like the openSUSE wiki? A form for travel support for example? An application for membership could be done by e-mail to an e-mail address of the membership officials. Elections could be done with an eVote software like https://github.com/mdipierro/evote for example, but probably there are better tools. What did I miss? I think Lars is right an we should shutdown this insecure system as soon as possible. Regards Christian Imhorst -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Please close my membership
by James Mason 28 Nov '20

28 Nov '20

Hello, It is with despair that I ask that you cancel my membership in openSUSE. The constant bickering on the mailing lists is by far outweighing any constructive growth/change in the project, and in light of everything else going on in the world, I just don't have the headspace for all that negative, unproductive noise. I'm cc'ing the project overall; please let this serve as a lesson that if one thinks they can bicker their way to the end result they want, they may find they arrive there alone. James Mason Technical Architect, Public Cloud SUSE

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[opensuse-project] OpenSUSE Afterhours
by Jason Evans 07 Sep '20

07 Sep '20

Hi all, There are a few open-source projects that have regular live streams/meetings about what's going on the project, interviews, etc. For example, there are Kubernetes office hours and Rancher office hours on YouTube. I would like to know if anyone would like to produce a regular official OpenSUSE After Hours stream where people involved in different projects at OpenSUSE can talk about what they are working on, what it's like being a member, etc. I'm thinking specifically about projects like Kubic, Uyuni, and OpenQA. Ideally this stream would be 100% geeky geeko fun and no politics (internal or otherwise). Just throwing this out there. Best Regards, Jason Evans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Ad-hoc Board Election result is here
by Ish Sookun 02 Sep '20

02 Sep '20

Dear openSUSE members, The openSUSE Ad-hoc Board election [1] is now closed. Stasiek Michalski has been elected to join the openSUSE Board. Election result: Stasiek Michalski 160 Pierre Böckmann 70 234 out of 510 eligible members have cast their vote in this election. We recorded 4 blank votes. We thank both of them for stepping up and running in this election and we congratulate Stasiek for his win. Regards, Ish Sookun // on behalf of the Election Committee [1] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] opensuse vs opensuse-support mailing list
by ITwrx 28 Aug '20

28 Aug '20

hi, I'm wondering what the difference is between these two lists, or why they both exist/which to use. opensuse English Generic questions and User to User support for all the openSUSE distributions opensuse-support English openSUSE support thanks, ITwrx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Improving visibility between maintainers and end-users?
by Adrien Glauser 28 Aug '20

28 Aug '20

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hello, This is my first post to this mailing list so I hope I won't interrupt or disrupt an ongoing conversation. I noticed there is no systematic monitoring of the "maintenance health" of openSUSE packages, i.e.. no way for a potentially interested future maintainer to check whether this or that package is in need of extra help, or whether everything is fine. This means that it's difficult for someone willing to volunteer to appreciate the "health" of packages as far as maintenance is concerned. Of course users can see commits timelines and failed builds, but they have to try and *infer* how wanted their help is when instead they could simply *read* this information. Also as far as I know there is no systematic monitoring of the number of users for a given package in home repositories. This means that maintainers might not always be aware that their package need to be registered against official repositories. Now a simple web service (implemented as new feature to software-o-o, for instance, but not necessarily) could bring closer end-users and maintainers, improving the visibility of packages that need more maintainers and providing direct feedback to maintainers so as to motivate them to port their packages onto the main openSUSE distributions. Do other people find that such a service would be useful? If people find the idea worth realizing, who should I get in touch with to make it happen? Best, Adrien -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEU4ol/0bSQTwqpAkNMy9Aieh+wJwFAl9GkWAACgkQMy9Aieh+ wJyLUggAkiyzuDsdY2T0QpqjwNuV1hO9R78kN+M57l4sPDxvDwzz34s4uQgnMjJt ZGU+OJWKpmvhgB5rvSXDOrsVkx6XoyW6iPlRBgBeb5qdU0nncmhlRTSiYEQgh1ix dGCkh8lpvn1WQzS3vbrALCjpYLwPNLgRZY7Eavg+3I7HRffFS0M3y5nNL7dHhg+Q 25vcrZqh7jZeNf0aO7TcElSbF1hbfqUSJ39JJvsLXZITQsjRA2LMswviKsn7gRE/ G8bmEi/7Ky5N8Fn1SsLSnVeUE3IaHoWqasR56e/707xZ4/AaVLFrzzyHky+vFr/k 86i7yM4Byh8v5afQoWVLkBVH6f7/ZQ== =MCXP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Election campaign page
by Ish Sookun 27 Aug '20

27 Aug '20

Dear all, Stasiek has set up his campaign page at https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ad_hoc_Board_election_2020_platform_hellcp. If you have questions for him as a running candidate, feel free to ask. Regards, Ish Sookun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Working on Foundation & Governance
by Vinzenz Vietzke 25 Aug '20

25 Aug '20

Hi all, as you can see in the minutes [1] for the last board meeting on 2020-08-04 we once again talked about the long standing topic of an openSUSE foundation. This came up in the light of the past months and the recent thread on this mailing list where governance structures were discussed. [2] Quoting the minutes "We need to broaden the group of people working on foundation" this is where we want to give the topic a push here on project ML. To give everyone an overview of what is done until now I condensed documents floating around in the wiki at "Current state". [3] *The why* The openSUSE community has the reputation of being progressive and thriving in terms of technical aspects. This is where the "do-ocracy" works impressively. Yet our organizational structure sometimes lacks behind, which is why we need to talk. There are good reasons for an independent openSUSE legal entity that have been already been discussed extensively before. Yet this comes with governance structures being not only necessary but also obligate. Having had structural challenging times recently and an obvious need from the community for progressive discussions makes the picture complete somehow. So throwing both topics together is just a logical consequence there. *To do* So I hereby invite everyone interested to chime in. Please get to know what's already been done on the first hand. And then give input, constructive criticism and ideas on both parts of the story - Foundation and Governance. *A few thoughts on the practical side* To add comments on the existing stuff it might be good to copy text to some etherpad for collaborative work. If desired we also can set up a conference call or even revive the pre-existing mailing list. [4] [5] Looking forward to healthy and interesting discussions! vinz. [1] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-08/msg00064.html [2] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-07/msg00085.html ff. [3] https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Foundation [4] https://etherpad.opensuse.org [5] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-foundation/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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