September 2018 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Election Committee call for Volunteers.
by Simon Lees 23 Oct '18

23 Oct '18

Hi All, As was written in our last board minutes, to give plenty of time to organise our board elections as per the Board Election Rules[1], the board has decided to ask for volunteer's for the board election community a little earlier (now) Chuck has already proactively read our minutes and has put his name forward as a volunteer, so the remaining question is does anyone want to volunteer to help him? 1. https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B

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[opensuse-project] Call for oSC2020 Hosts and Upcoming events
by ddemaio 25 Sep '18

25 Sep '18

Hi all, I just wanted to send out an email to let you know that we are opening up the call for hosts for the openSUSE Conference 2020. You can find more information about it and the how to submit a proposal at this link - http://bit.ly/2Q6ssPo Additionally, I wanted to let you know that a the call for papers is open for openSUSE Conference 2019, which will be in Nuremberg, Germany. You can register for it and submit your talk at https://events.opensuse.org/ We will also have an openSUSE Summit at the end of SUSECON in Nashville, TN, USA. Registration and the call for papers is open for that as well. If you are on the west coast, we also plan on having an openSUSE Summit at SCaLE17x. I'm just waiting on some final agreements, but as soon as we have that, I will open up the CfP for the summit in SoCal. Have a lot of fun! v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Board Meeting minutes 20180918
by Knurpht-openSUSE 21 Sep '18

21 Sep '18

Please find below the meeting minutes of the Board Meeting of 18th of September 2018: Present: Richard Christian Simon Gertjan Absent: Ana Sarah Agenda 1. Two trade mark issues 2. Gertjan: Doug sponsor wiki. What should be changed? It was not clear what needed changing. 2. The wiki pages re. our sponsors are OK, what we need is a page with info about us sponsoring other projects, i.e. about how other projects can ask for sponsorship from us AI: Gertjan emails Doug Meeting minutes 20180918 Present: Richard Christian Simon Gertjan Absent: Ana Sarah Agenda 1. Two trade mark issues 2. Gertjan: Doug sponsor wiki. What should be changed? It was not clear what needed changing. 1, The board discussed two trade mark issues, both need some follow-up discussion with the requesters 2. The wiki pages re. our sponsors are OK, what we need is a page with info about us sponsoring other projects, i.e. about how other projects can ask for sponsorship from us AI: Gertjan emails Doug The "anything else?" question replies: Christian: The opensuse.cz still needs to be transferred to openSUSE. AI: Richard picking this up Christian: There was a cookie issue (probably caused by a new load balancer in Provo). which made f.e. paste.opensuse.org inaccessable. This was fixed/workarounded on paste.o.o, but the "evil" cookie still breaks some Heroes-internal services. Gertjan states that the forums improved hugely AI : Christian contacts Theo ( heroes ) for more info. -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Board meeting minutes 2018-09-04
by Christian Boltz 16 Sep '18

16 Sep '18

Hello, here are the board meeting minutes of Sep 4 2018. You can also read them on https://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Board_meeting_2018-09-04 All board members were present. = transparency discussion on opensuse-project@ = We voted and the result was not to discuss it in this board meeting, and to continue the discussion on the public mailinglist. If needed, we might discuss it in the next board meeting. = DevFest'18- VIT Vellore sponsoring = ACTION : Gertjan will pass the available info on to Doug = sponsorship process = The workflow of asking for sponsorship and who decides is not always clear. Also, sometimes sponsorship requests get sent to board@ (which should not be the first point of contact) The rule of thumb is: * for "usual" sponsorship, typically the openSUSE Marketing team decides * for "unusual" or unclear sponsorship requests, it gets escalated to the board ACTION :Gertjan will send an email to Douglas to ask him to update the wiki to make it clear how to request sponsorship. = Code of Conduct = Ana noticed that the Code of Conduct is outdated but instead of discussing it in the meeting she wrote to opensuse-project@ (as an individual, because it's not the board's job to do these changes). = next board election = We'll ask for volunteers for the election commitee soon so that they have time to decide if the next election should happen at the documented date (in December) or two years after the (delayed) 2017 election. ACTION: Simon writes in opensuse-project@ to ask for volunteers when he considers appropriate = rsync.opensuse.org = The rsync.o.o server hardware died after 12 years, and will be replaced ASAP. ACTION: Christian (wearing his Heroes hat) will ask the Heroes to take an inventory of our hardware (including a list of to-be-replaced hardware) to reduce the risk of similar hardware failures in the future. Regards, Christian Boltz -- > [creating ARCHIVES.gz] I asume there is a script for this and > it would be nice to bring this out in the open. Thats black autobuild magic ;-) Our chief autobuild vodoo priest is on vacation currently, [...] [> houghi and Klaus Kaempf in opensuse] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Board Meeting Minutes of August 21 2018
by Ana Martínez 11 Sep '18

11 Sep '18

Board Meeting Minutes of August 21 2018. You can also find them in the Wiki: https://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Board_meeting_2018-08-21 Enjoy reading! ;) = Attendees = Complete = openSUSE.Asia Summit retrospective = Simon and Ana attended openSUSE.Asia Summit two weeks ago and they provided their impressions about the conference to the other board members. The conference was really successfully, incredibly well organized and a community event with lots of volunteers. There were some concerns about the summit being co-hosted with COSCUP and GNOME.Asia, but the fact that this was done keeping the three parts in the same level, made it working pretty well. The openSUSE conference was still well defined, but there was also the chance to interact with the other communities and to get the attention of more new people. We also spoke about the concerns from the openSUSE Asia community shared during the session with the board the day previous to the conference: Mentoring, translations, etc. = TSP openSUSE.Asia = The Board decided to try to improve openSUSE.Asia Summit travel support budget to ensure more people can benefit from it and that students get 100% reimbursement instead of 80%. There are concerns if there is a procedure for requesting materials and if it is widely known. ACTION: Ana will double check if the process for that works properly, is documented and will share it = GSoC = We discussed how openSUSE will receive the money from GSoC. SUSE will receive it and pay mentors travels for the mentor summit. = Sponsorships = == Football team discussion in the last minutes thread == We discussed if was appropriated to explain personal points of views on the topic. == TH Nürnberg == openSUSE will sponsor the food of the Linux course for new students in the TH Nürnberg university. == DevFest'18- VIT Vellore == ACTION: Knurpht will write back asking more details = Update membership information = ACTION: Richard and Knurpht will try to update the information in the next month -- Ana María Martínez Gómez http://anamaria.martinezgomez.name -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Board meeting minutes 2018-09-04
by Knurpht-openSUSE 10 Sep '18

10 Sep '18

Op maandag 10 september 2018 22:46:01 CEST schreef Charles Payne: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 4:20 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE <knurpht(a)opensuse.org> > > wrote: > > Op maandag 10 september 2018 22:08:26 CEST schreef Christian Boltz: > > > ACTION :Gertjan will send an email to Douglas to ask him to update the > > > wiki to make it clear how to request sponsorship. > > > > Done. > > > > -- > > Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht > > openSUSE Board Member > > openSUSE Forums Team > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > > To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org > > Guys, > > Since I was able to help last time, and I have a better understanding what > needs to be done. Please list me a volunteer for the 2019 elections. Awesome, Chuck. Thanks for stepping up. -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] CoC
by Ana Martínez 05 Sep '18

05 Sep '18

Hi, openSUSE CoC[1] is outdated, with things like: Conference staff can be identified by their special oSC organizer t-shirts I think it should be updated. Regards, Ana [1] - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_code_of_conduct -- Ana María Martínez Gómez https://anamaria.martinezgomez.name -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: Board Meeting Minutes of August 21 2018
by Patryk Zera 04 Sep '18

04 Sep '18

4.9.18 (Wt), Richard Brown <RBrownCCB(a)opensuse.org> napisał(a): Temat: Re: [opensuse-project] Re: Board Meeting Minutes of August 21 2018 Do: "Ana Martínez" <anamma06(a)gmail.com> DW: "opensuse-project" <opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org> Data: 4 Wrzesień 2018 (Wtorek), 13:13 On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 12:53, Ana Martínez <anamma06(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 12:53, Ana Martínez <anamma06(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I object to not discuss it. >> >> From this thread I get that: >> - Community wants the votes to be public > >Some of the community wants the votes to be public. There are others who do not. I don't really need public votes, if Board votes on things requiring privacy. >> > I agree with your principle. My point is, the Board should only be >> > deciding on topics where there is a good reason not to make it public. >> >> What was the good reason for the board to decide on the football team >> and not to make it public? > >Because, unlike the vast amount of other sponsorships which the >Project decides upon without the Board's direct involvement, the >unusual nature of this one led to the marketing team (who normally >decide on sponsorships) asking the Board for our opinion. OK. So this was not a decision but an opinion. And the final decision was made (or not yet?) by marketing team, I supouse. I think, in this particular case Board could pass their opinion as description of thoughts even if contradicting (with names? Board internally decide) to the marketing team (like "more of us think that but some think different", more detailed of course). If marketing team doesn't specified that this could be discussed in public and need private opinion of Board, I would insert into minutes only "Board issued opinion on sponsorship opportunity as requested by marketing team". (I don't know how marketing team works on sponsorship and how much public they are. I'm sorry, if this is some kind of bad interpretation of situation.) If marketing team doesn't need keep this sponsorship private why not starting discussion right here, just as it was with foundation options, when everybody could write their opinions on various options. >> > We have the Board so the Project has people who can make unpopular, >> > but trusted decisions. >> >> I disagree. I believe the Board should make popular decisions, which >> represent what the community wants. >> >> From our Wiki[1]: Facilitate decision making processes where needed. >> Facilitate decision is not the same as decide and it also doesn't >> include anything about unpopular decisions. > >Indeed, so on the topic that decided this, I think there is a case to >be made that the Board could consider suggesting a way to allow the >marketing team to decide about sponsorships without involving the >Board. I would fully support such an effort. > >But without such a way, we end up being the only process left > >And that process in which the Board makes decisions is one which >doesn't make those votes public, because the Board is designed and >structured for making decisions only in cases where no other process >or community mechanisms exist. > >The Board should only be making decisions _as_a_last_resort_. > >When that is the case, we need to have the freedom to make those >decisions with private voting (but public minuting). > >As many decisions as possible should be made by people other than the >Board - like our wiki says "community mechanisms exist to accomplish >the goals of the project" - the Board is there for when those >community mechanisms don't exist, or fail to work for the Project. > >> > If the Board's function is only to make popular decisions, then we >> > might as well not have a Board and put everything to a popular vote. >> > And such an option is not viable in many of those cases. >> >> I really like the idea for the cases in which it is possible. > >I really think those cases should be none of the Board's business, and >should be handled elsewhere in the Project. To kinda sum up my toughts: - Board could recognize if meeting item needs voting (now it looks like voting on football team sponsorship was unnecessary) - Board could internally clearly to all Board members decide if current case requires privacy and how much (sometimes Board is the last resort [no community mechanism], but the case is public) - Board could internally also clearly to all Board members decide if they can share their opinions or votes (if case is public, why vote and not discuss it in public? or discuss it in public then public/private vote?) best regards, Patryk 'Sanchez' Zera -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Formally resigning my openSUSE membership
by Bryan Lunduke 02 Sep '18

02 Sep '18

To the openSUSE community, There are so many wonderful, inspiring projects and communities in the broader Free Software world -- that it makes little sense for me to remain a member of one where the leadership personally attacks those who suggest simple notions such as "let's be more transparent" (an implied criticism that is as much about my own failings, as a past Board Member, as anyone). The responses received from some openSUSE Board members were profane, rude, slanderous... and just plain not nice. I have many friends in this community -- a community that has done some truly exceptional work. Many of you have *much* to be proud of. And I will do my best to not let the words and actions of some of the Board impact my views of the good work that you have done and, I hope, will do in the future. For the technology you have produced -- and the friendship you have shared -- I will always be in your debt. That said, the Board has created a negative, cruel atmosphere that I do not want any part of. Perhaps one day that will change but, for now, it is time to separate myself entirely and to focus on the communities with much less hate; To surround myself with love, instead. I do not expect any other people to take this action -- nor do I wish this to cause any additional unhappiness or conflict among the community. It is simply an action I must take, and I want my thoughts (whether any agree with them or not) to be stated. I request that I be removed from the openSUSE membership list. I will unsubscribe myself from the various mailing lists this evening. I wish you all (and I do mean *all*) the very best. -Bryan Lunduke -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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