September 2012 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] download.opensuse.org IPV6 address breaks updates
by Gerald Pfeifer 15 Nov '13

15 Nov '13

I am seeing this with an openSUSE 12.1 system at home, and also a Factory system at work: % host download.opensuse.org download.opensuse.org has address 195.135.221.134 download.opensuse.org has IPv6 address 2001:67c:2178:8::13 And then, when running zypper patch or zypper up, I see Retrieving: repomd.xml [error] Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.1/repodata/repomd.xml': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to 2001:67c:2178:8::13: Network is unreachable Alas, my provider nor that network at work support IPv6. Still, my system has IPv6 enabled since roaming around on different networks, IPv6 may be present, or even necessary there. (This does not happen all the time, sometimes if I retry a bit later the system uses IPv4 and everything works.) Now, is this just a setup problem and I should simply and unconditionally disable IPv6? Or are some parts of our update or network stack in need of some adjustments? For the time being, unless this is just me running into this, should we disable IPv6 on download.opensuse.org? Gerald -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com> || SUSE || Director Product Management -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] 12.3 Schedule and development
by Will Stephenson 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

Given that 12.2 slipped by 2 months, and the development process for 12.3 is "to be discussed", what schedule are we working on towards 12.3 at the moment? Every time I've been involved in a project without a schedule, we've had a long period of (probably highly satisfying for developers) of 'undirected hacking' followed by crisis, followed by a rush to 'get it out before people forget who we are' which inevitably had some fallout (I'm thinking of the period leading up to KDE 4.0 here ;). So I'd like to start the discussion now before we lose a month waiting to discuss it at osc12, where only a fraction of the active members of the project are is going to be present anyway. You don't want everything to be decided by German Engineers* for you do you? Some ideas to start the ball rolling: * openSUSE 12.2 original schedule + 8 months = openSUSE 12.2 actual release + 4 months = Do a short cycle and release in March 2013, essentially 12.2 + bugfixes and updates * openSUSE 12.2 actual release + 8 months = May 2013, business as usual, using a fixed process to solve the problems that caused the 12.2 slip * Extend the release cycle keeping same process and longer stabilization period (effective 12.2 release process; leads to shipping 'outdated' stuff) * Change the process to plan more features in advance (as much as this is realistic given we mostly ship what our upstreams deliver) and work together to achieve these Please, save your 'my vote is for this' type of replies. And if you're an armchair general willing to type paragraphs of email here but not a single OBS checkin, meeting participaton or wiki update to 12.3, go do something more pleasurable with your fingers instead. This discussion is not about your favourite kind of icecream, as if that will change anything. This need a reasoned discussion on what to do in future, to get a majority of the actors in the project to agree to act together, and then action. Otherwise we will default to an arbitrary schedule, several months of undirected hacking and taking what comes from upstream, reactive release management to get the result bootable and not too likely to blow up in users' faces, and frantic analysis of the brew by -marketing to make it sound like a consistent whole offering an attractive narrative of improvement (Guess what I did for the last few weeks). Will (* Something Pascal was moping about on IRC last week, I'm hoping to tempt him out of his cave) -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Google Code-In
by Robert Schweikert 02 Oct '12

02 Oct '12

All, Google s once again running the Google Code-In project that we as the openSUSE project have participated in previously. It would be great if someone can step up and drive the organization. Last year Manu did a great job and we had a successful Code-In. Below is the announcement: Later, Robert Hello GSoC Mentors, We are excited to announce [0] that we will be running the Google Code-in [1] contest for 13-17 pre-university students again this fall. The contest will begin for students on Monday, November 26th, 2012 [2]. Organizations will be able to apply to be one of the 10 mentoring organizations beginning Monday, October 22nd (the Monday after the GSoC Mentor Summit in Mountain View, CA). We will have a session on Google Code-in during the Mentor Summit for people to learn more about the program and for previous mentors and org admins to give us their feedback and thoughts on the program. When you read through the Contest Rules for this year you will notice some major changes that we implemented based on your feedback and student feedback from last year. The main points are below with more mentor information on the GCI Wiki [3]. The point system has been overhauled and now every task is worth one point. The 5 students with the highest number of completed tasks with your org will be the pool from which you, the mentoring org, will choose your 2 Grand Prize winners based on the overall complete body of work of those 5 students. There will be 10 Mentoring Orgs for a total of 20 Grand Prize Winners (compared to 10 last year). Translation tasks will no longer be a part of the Google Code-in contest, either as its own category or as a part of documentation efforts. If students want to go for the Grand Prize they will work predominantly with one org and will hopefully become involved with the community of that org and will stay long after the GCI contest is over. Students will not earn cash prizes for their work. They will earn certificates and t-shirts and then they can go for the grand prize if they wish. The contest was shortened by a week at the beginning of the contest period so it will now start after the Thanksgiving holidays in the USA. We hope you will help us spread the word about the Google Code-in contest so we can introduce more young developers to the wonderful world of open source. If you will be going to any talks or conferences aimed at pre-university students in the next couple of months we would be happy to send you some stickers for GCI. Please contact me directly at sttaylor(a)google.com. [0] http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/09/google-code-in-contest-for-hi… [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2012 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2012 [3] http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInformation2012 Best, Stephanie Taylor -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Call for help translation of osc'12 program announcement
by Max Lin 29 Sep '12

29 Sep '12

Hi everybody, Since openSUSE 12.2 already released, openSUSE Team now move our eyes to openSUSE conference - osc'12. The call for paper(http://conference.opensuse.org/Call-for-papers/) is closed, also the sessions are decided and scheduled, you can check it on http://bootstrapping-awesome.org/schedule/. openSUSE conference will have participants from all over the world, we prepared an program announcement and we looking for somebody help us translation of the program announcement in the different languages, if you willing do this task, started from http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_Program_announcement would be good! Thanks for your contribution to keep openSUSE grow up! Best regards, Max -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing Vincent Untz as new openSUSE Board Charman
by Vincent Untz 28 Sep '12

28 Sep '12

Hi all, The dust is finally starting to settle after returning from the openSUSE Summit -- which was a pretty good event, btw; thanks to the sponsors (SUSE, ownCloud, Omnibond) and to the whole organization team, and especially to Bryen and Alan who did a fantastic job! I just wanted to write a quick mail about this announcement: obviously, I'm excited to join the board as chairman! I'm wishing all the best to Alan who is moving to the OpenStack Foundation, and he will for sure have a good use there for his experience as chairman of the openSUSE board. I also want to thank the current board for approving my appointment. I believe the board can do a lot to serve and guide the community. And for this to work fine, the board needs input and feedback from the community about the non-technical topics (technical topics like "systemd vs sysvinit" are better handled by all the teams we have, including the release team). So don't hesitate to send to board(a)opensuse.org, or just to me if you prefer, your input and feedback about what you believe the board should do, what we are doing good and what we are doing bad. My intent is not to start a huge introspection thread on opensuse-project (I don't think that'd work well), so be careful when replying, we're watching you ;-) Several board members will obviously be coming to the openSUSE Conference, so if you happen to go there, you can also wait a bit and have a in-person discussion with any of us. I've had such chats during the Summit, and that was really useful! Finally, I'd like to remind everyone that there will be board elections in a couple of months. Every openSUSE member can run for the elections (unless that member already served for two consecutive periods). So start thinking about it; this is a great way to contribute to the project and help it move forward. See the election rules for more details: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules Cheers, Vincent Le vendredi 21 septembre 2012, à 23:14 +0200, Jos Poortvliet a écrit : > This week Alan Clark announced to the openSUSE Board that he is stepping > down from his position as Board Chair. His duties in SUSE keep him > increasingly busy and SUSE has decided, after almost two years, the time has > come for someone else to take on his role. > > So, after thinking about what skills are most relevant for the openSUSE > Board right now and who would fit in best, SUSE managers Michael Miller > (Marketing and Product Management) and Ralf Flaxa (Engineering) have brought > in former GNOME Foundation Chairman Vincent Untz to take on the role as > chair. The Board is very pleased having someone with the skills and > experience of Vincent on board! > > Read more about this on our news site: > http://news.opensuse.org/?p=14113 > And the official announcement from SUSE: > https://www.suse.com/company/press/2012/9/opensuse-project-announces- > appointment-of-vincent-untz-as-opensuse-board-chair.html > > Both Alan and Vincent Untz as well as number of the other openSUSE Board > members are at the openSUSE Summit right now. If you're there, go and look > them up for a chat about where openSUSE is going. If you can't make it, they > will surely be at the openSUSE Conference in Prague in October! -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Conference as a community event
by Agustin Benito Bethencourt 27 Sep '12

27 Sep '12

Hi, We, at SUSE, are working hard to take care of the basic parts of the organization of the conference, like: * Venue * Accommodation * Network/internet connection * etc. We are not alone in this process. Some of you are giving us valuable help in many areas: * Sponsorship * Invitation letters * Contents (talks, workshops, etc.) * TSP At SUSE, our major goal is that openSUSE community (and other parties, remember we will have LinuxDays and Gentoo minisummit also) can focus on the meaningful part of the conference: the contents, the meetings, the decisions, the fun (why not) ..... So I would like you consider taking this opportunity to make things happen, to discuss and take important decisions (if possible) for the future of openSUSE during the event, no matter if you are in Prague or elsewhere those days. Those of you interested in organizing BoF or meetings please consider using this wiki page to coordinate efforts and get assigned a room: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_BoF_sessions Please also consider joining opensuse-conference(a)opensuse.org mailing list. We are coordinating the organization of the event there. Saludos and see you in Prague -- Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe(a)suse.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] UI and Branding proposal for Artwork team, Development team
by Eugene Trounev 27 Sep '12

27 Sep '12

openSUSE Summit has come and gone, and now it's time to draw the line. Many people has been spoken to, many discussions took place and the end result of all those discussions is the following proposal. [Please Note: the proposal is from ME personally, and is targeted at the artwork team AND the developmental team, as I strongly believe in community involvement] A) It has been discussed on-and-off for some time that openSUSE is in dare need of re-branding, or to be even more precise - of branding, as there currently is practically none. Changing a default wallpaper from one release to another does not constitute a strong, recognizable brand name. As a part of the branding precess (should we agree on one at all) we will attempt to: i) Develop openSUSE specific styling guidelines; iI) Develop openSUSE specific look and feel including - icons, desktop theme, window theme; iii) Restyle the website to follow the guidelines and the desktop theme conventions; iv) [Possibly] redesign the logo itself None of those changes however are going to happen tomorrow, or even in the next release. If any of these does happen it's only upon the grater community consent and involvement. So, consider this to be an [active] proposal, and start the discussion. B) Now to the near future (next release). I would like to propose a few changes to the current artwork and styling process. i) To separate the boot-loader image from the desktop wallpaper and make those into two totally separate efforts ii) The boot-loader (including GRUB, boot-splash, and login) will be styled by the artwork team internally and should be as simple as possible and vector based iii) The wallpaper will be decided upon via contest (just like the last time), but this time around we do it entirely with the collection from Flickr, and demand specific copyright license for each picture submitted This is all for now. Please let me know what are your thoughts/comments on A) & B) Best Regards, Eugene Trounev [it-s] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Science repository
by Dmitry Roshchin 26 Sep '12

26 Sep '12

Hello. It would be nice to add science [1] repository to YaST additional repositories list [2]. This repository provides scientific and engineering software that mostly not included into main repository. Science repository quite stable and well maintained. [1] https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=science [2] http://download.opensuse.org/YaST/Repos/_openSUSE_{version}_Additional.xml -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Slides for openSUSE 12.2 ready!
by Jos Poortvliet 25 Sep '12

25 Sep '12

Hi folks! If you're going to promote openSUSE somewhere soon - know that we've got your back. There are openSUSE 12.2 presentation templates courtesy of sysrich in our github repo: https://github.com/openSUSE/artwork/tree/master/slides/ Also, we have created a introduction to openSUSE 12.2 and updated our other standard slide decks about OBS, openQA, Studio and more. Find them here: https://github.com/openSUSE/artwork/tree/master/slides/12.2%20Slides There's also separate openSUSE 12.2 for presentations available in svg and other easy-to-work-with formats: https://github.com/openSUSE/artwork/tree/master/slides/12.2%20Presentation%… Remember, we believe in Doing, Sharing and Merging, so if you have any improvements for the slides, translations, other artwork, or translations of our other stuff, just send them to me or create a merge request on github ;-) Oh, and those not yet following us on G+: https://plus.google.com/s/openSUSE Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/opensuseproject/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/openSUSE Pls do so ;-) Have a lot of fun and let us know if you use the slides, Jos

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[opensuse-project] Ubuntu applications...
by Nelson Marques 24 Sep '12

24 Sep '12

As a quick example[1] it seems that our Orange friends (maybe some link with Wilhelm of Nassau) are bringing up cool stuff; No doubt that this stuff can turn viral and the hype is already there... Would it be in our interest to scrap the ones we can package (I'd assume a lot of them can be used, while others might be harder until we have some ensurance on Unity and some of it's stuff like appindicator and friends)... I've been spending some time trying to update some packages here and there; MATE needs more testing and Cinnamon isn't really being a problem at the moment... so I can scrap some time to bring some of this applications in and to investigate which ones we can bring on... Though I'm almost sure that without help (mainly bug fixing) I can't do it all by myself on my free time. We have good Python repositories (which I hope to be more involved in the future after Coolo's session on OSC), we have a lot of stuff from GNOME and we can even scrap some components from X11:Unity (which is stalled until we have xorg-x11-proto updated to protocol 6 and libXfixes also supporting it) to make some cool things happen. We probably don't have a shiny app store, but we have a cool distro. Any comments if should pay attention to what the Orange people are doing and trying to keep up with the nicest stuff that pops and that we can provide? Just an idea, in which I'm willing to help happen (as long as someone helps triaging bugzilla and maybe some code here and there for quick fixes). NM [1] - http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/09/announcing-the-ubuntu-app-showdown-comm… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: Alionet.org + openSUSE.org
by Florian Leparoux 24 Sep '12

24 Sep '12

Hi alexis, Le 21 sept. 2012 à 09:49, "Alexis \"Agemen\"" <a9emen(a)gmail.com> a écrit : > On 21 September 2012 07:45, Florian Leparoux <florian.leparoux(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Le 20 sept. 2012 à 23:35, Jim Henderson <hendersj(a)gmail.com> a écrit : >> >>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:20:25 +0200, Florian Leparoux wrote: >>> >>>> We need to think for all non-english openSUSE community and not just for >>>> the french community. >>> >>> We do currently have a number of non-English language sections on the >>> openSUSE forums, including a French one - I don't know if you've talked >>> with the moderators of that group (though I know someone from Alionet is >>> talking to swerdna as well). >>> >>> Jim >>> >> >> In fact there is a thread in alionet.org, in the ML-FR, a discussion with opensuse moderator, #opensuse-fr and for finish in this ML >> >> Flo >>> -- > Hi everybody, > > I guess it's time to explain a bit why we did this proposal, and why > we think it is a good idea... > > The original objective is, as underlined by Florian, to make the > french community more coherent. I say french here for simplicity, but > that's a bit broader because this forum is used by french speaking > people, not only french. The french community is quite parceled out. > Participation to the broader, international project, does not suffer > from any problem. There are people participating to packaging, IRC and > other parts of the project from both forums. Fortunately. That would > be a real shame otherwise. > > Currently, Alionet is offering some services. There's not only a > forum, but blogs, a CMS dedicated to news and an independant wiki. > There has even been an IRC chan... To be honest, that does not work. > We don't want to do that anymore, splitting our energy in redundant > projects. Whatever will be decided in the end, the wiki will certainly > disappear. It's already hard enough to maintain one, let's not > maintain both. And as I've said, we already decided to remove public > IRC chans linked to Alionet. There are still some private ones, but > dedicated to technical discussions around the website. > > In my opinion, though, three things must not disappear. First, the CMS > (for the news), then the blogs. There are not much that are written in > french, and that's a good store front. People interested in openSUSE > can have news about it in french. That may seem silly, but... well... > french people are not always at their ease when it comes to speak > english. So they can't stay tuned with the projects and actions made > by openSUSE, or not in a single place. > > That said, it's time to speak about the forums. Alionet is way more > used than the french forum in forums.opensuse.org. There are many more > posts there... Of course, that does not do everything. That's just > some "fact"... If we consider only people using forums (everybody does > not particpate to a project the same way... some prefer MLs, other > IRC, other forums, some use many of them...), it seems the Alionet > community is wider. I may be wrong. > > On the technical side, we're actively working to enable nntp. That's a > problem because, for historical reasons[1], our DB uses an iso > charset, while the vBulletin nntp plugin requires UTF8. The SSO part > may be more difficult, however... > > Finally, some side notes. Florian presented Alionet as a "concurrent" > of openSUSE. I don't think it is. Alionet is an association "loi 1901" > in France. The main reason, originally, was that we wanted to have a > clean way to collect money to pay our server. Until then, it has been > proven that, at a local level, it is a good way to gather people and > to strengthen the links between them. > > The Alionet association has been legally created to "promote free > software, the GNU/Linux operating systems, and particularly SUSE and > openSUSE". I think it is self-explanatory. Moreover, since the > creation of the association, we've tried to participate to FOSS > events, on openSUSE stands. I went to the RMLL last year, in LUGs and > in Solutions Linux this year. I may be in Paris again in October. Each > time, we've made this with openSUSE mates. And I say mates. Even if > I'm the "president of the association Alionet", I'm also a member of > the openSUSE community, and that is always a real pleasure to meet > other members of this commmunity. And I personnally don't care if they > are "from Alionet or not". Alionet as been thought as a relay, as a > support, from the beginning. We won't fork the distribution, we won't > try to beat openSUSE. We want to work with and for openSUSE. Call us > concurrent if you want. I, personnally, wouldn't. > > I hope this message helps the debate in some ways. I will follow this > thread, of course... as I do most of the time on openSUSE MLs. > > Best wishes, > > Alexis "Agemen". > > [1] The former server were Alionet lived was not dedicated, and we > then did not have the choice of the charset for the db. That's a > shame... and fixing that takes some time. > -- > OrbisGIS supporter. I just want to say : thanks for this explanation. I think for the global comprehension this message can help everyone. Florian-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] 12.2 install from ISO-loop using GRUB2 not working
by Joram Kruijer 22 Sep '12

22 Sep '12

Dear developers, I have installed openSUSE 12.1 from an ISO by booting it with GRUB2 (from a NTFS-formatted primary partition) using the following commands: loopback loop /openSUSE-12.1-DVD-x86_64.iso linux (loop)/boot/x86_64/loader/linux iso-scan/filename=/openSUSE-12.1-DVD-x86_64.iso splash=silent showopts install=hd:/openSUSE-12.1-DVD-x86_64.iso initrd (loop)/boot/x86_64/loader/initrd Using these same commands to install 12.2, LinuxRC tells me that it can't find the repositories. If I specify an instsys-parameter, it still can't seem to find it's repo's. Any thoughts on this? The sha1 is correct, and since 12.1 did launch YaST and installed successful, I can't figure out why 12.2 doesn't. Has something changed in the LinuxRC-part or the way repo's are stored and loaded? Thank you in advance and keep up the good work, Joram -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Alionet.org + openSUSE.org
by Florian Leparoux 21 Sep '12

21 Sep '12

Hello guys, I do not know if you are aware but some member of the French Community have the desire to reunite the french opensuse forum. I would like to know your views for this proposition : - Integrate french opensuse forum into Alionet forum - keep the opensuse-fr irc channel on freenode - integrate all french opensuse documentation into french opensuse wiki. For me I think it's a good and a bad idea :) Some prerequisites are necessary for me (and other optionals) : - openSUSE authentification (SSO) with the Alionet community, - nntp protocol - etc ... Actually we are in talks and all views will be appreciated. Florian / T1loc ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t1locs(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] #ossum12 on Storify
by Mike McCallister 20 Sep '12

20 Sep '12

Folks, I've set up this location on Storify.com to collect news and tweets about the Summit this weekend. If you're not familiar, Storify lets you set up searches across Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Flickr, Instagram and Google to track events and topics. From there, you can curate out of the firehose. Follow along and share your news and comments here: http://storify.com/WorkingWriter/first-opensuse-summit/ Wish I could be with y'all, but I'm hoping this will be the next best thing! Have fun Lizards! Mike McCallister Writer/Author /openSUSE Linux Unleashed/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-project] 12.3 Schedule and development
by Jos Poortvliet 20 Sep '12

20 Sep '12

On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 09:51:46 Bryen M Yunashko wrote: > On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 11:57 +0200, Guido Berhoerster wrote: > > That means also excluding people from the decision-making process > > (regardless of their stake in openSUSE development) who simply > > cannot attend due to time constraints. A problem that doesn't > > exist with asynchronous means of communication like email or the > > web. > > Jos is not suggesting that conferences replace other forms of > communication altogether. People *should* communicate however they best > can on medium that is available to them. But he is bringing the point > forward that you have a unique opportunity at conferences to talk > directly face to face with people who make decisions and state your case > more clearly verbally if the mood strikes you. Yup, sorry for my miss-communication. I'm saying it is important and valuable to come to the conference - not that you don't matter or have no influence over our future direction if you don't manage to go there. Also: I think it would be extremely valuable to open some discussions up for a wider audience using Google Hangouts. Folks with laptops capable of doing that can take care of creating hangouts quite easily and we should all keep that in mind once it is time for the meetings to start: set up a hangout! Note that the most interesting meetings happen on Monday and Tuesday according to the schedule: http://bootstrapping-awesome.org/schedule Hugs, Jos

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[opensuse-project] Forbidden on http://download.opensuse.org/*
by Joop Boonen 20 Sep '12

20 Sep '12

Dear all, I just saw access on http://download.opensuse.org/* is currently forbidden. I don't know if the already has been noticed? Regards, Joop. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] opensuse-python mailing list
by Alex Naumov 20 Sep '12

20 Sep '12

Hi, I think it will be great to create a new mailing list about python development on openSUSE. As I can see we have opensuse-ruby and opensuse-java mailing lists already. I use python at work and I think it will be very helpful to get quick help/support about python-modules and/or python-packaging related questions. Cheers, Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Summit Android App
by Matt Barringer 20 Sep '12

20 Sep '12

Hi, I've released the openSUSE Summit (and eventually, Conference) Android app onto Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.incoherent.suseconferencec… If you don't have access to Google Play for whatever reason, you can also install the app directly from Github: https://github.com/mbarringer/suseconferenceclient/downloads If you don't have an Android phone, but want to see what it looks like, screenshots are here: https://github.com/mbarringer/suseconferenceclient/wiki/Screenshots If you find any bugs or have suggestions, please report them via github or directly to me if you don't have a github account. Thanks, and have fun at the Summit, Matt -- Matt Barringer, Software Engineer SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, DE GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)

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Re: [opensuse-project] 12.3 Schedule and development - version number
by Martin Schlander 18 Sep '12

18 Sep '12

Tirsdag den 18. september 2012 18:51:05 skrev nir haber: > i think that yes we need 1 year cycle release because 8 months its very > short (most users, not only linux users, dont want to upgrade every 8 > months there OS) and in that time that we have (12 months) we can also > find away to attract developers or companies to develop to opensuse OS They don't have to. There's 18 month support. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 17:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 18 Sep '12

18 Sep '12

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 17:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=19&month=9&year=2012&h… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] 12.3 Schedule and development - version number
by David Webb (NOC) 17 Sep '12

17 Sep '12

My vote goes for one major release each year. For me its great advantage is that I would spend/waste less time dealing with the special bits that SuSE does not always fully cover - my backup operating system, my raid setup, the motherboard sensors, graphics card, the fortran bit of hdf5, recompiling all my own software for the new library versions, codecs, sound, etc. etc. If you can do that plus keep major packages like Libreoffice reasonably up to date during the year it would be even better. Regards, David Webb. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] A Free Way To Try openSUSE Without Installing It
by beta.opensuse＠yodasp.com 17 Sep '12

17 Sep '12

Hello everybody! We are a small team working on setting up a public cloud service to provide desktops and applications access through the web. The service is expected to go live-beta in 2013. In the meantime we have decided to periodically offer temporary services as demo-beta so that we can better test the technologies and the integrations we are working on. We hope that users will provide us feedbacks so that the final service will provide what users want. As a first demo-beta, we chose to start with our beloved openSUSE and are preparing to offer a time limited demo-beta for the lately released 12.2 KDE environment. Anybody interested can subscribe to our "openSUSE Beta" [1] offer from our site, http://www.yodasp.com, and get access to openSUSE 12.2 KDE systems to try them out for free. Please, read the "How does it work ?" description from the subscription page as this demo will be time-limited, restricted to a small number of users based on a FIFO subscription, and will offer dynamic systems where any uploaded data will be periodically deleted. Another interesting part is that we have chosen to use the wonderful ownCloud [2] workspace environment to get access to the openSUSE systems through the NoMachine FreeNX [3] technology. For any additional information, please, refer to beta.opensuse [AT] yodasp [DOT] com and, please, "Have a lot of fun!" [1] openSUSE Beta subscription direct link: http://goo.gl/s41rX [2] ownCloud software: http://owncloud.org/ [3] NoMachine FreeNX: http://www.nomachine.com/ We hope to make openSUSE 12.2 KDE try-out a good experience ! --- YODASP team openSUSE Beta -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] 12.3 Schedule and development
by Sven Burmeister 13 Sep '12

13 Sep '12

Am Donnerstag, 13. September 2012, 07:53:40 schrieb Greg Freemyer: > For leaf packages, from what i see this is happening already through the > normal update channel. > Even evergreen has done version updates, not just backports. Evergreen is not on my radar and doing major upgrades would contradict what I thought it was about. So no idea about them. > And the big kde update for 12.2 that just went out shows an obvious > willingness to do even very large bugfix updates. This only happened because it was meant to go into 12.2 but missed the schedule and it was only meant to go into 12.2 because 12.2 was delayed. > So i'm not sure that your complaint is actually valid. It seems to describe > the situation 2 or 3 years ago, not today. 12.2 shipped an outdated version of KDE, i.e. KDE 4.8. Instead it should have shipped KDE 4.9.0 and offer the upstream bugfix releases through 12.2's lifecycle. I'm pretty sure that 12.1 did not receive the latest minor bugfix release for the KDE version it shipped. Hence I'm pretty sure it is valid for KDE that openSUSE does not ship upstream stable but whatever it claims to be stable. This results in outdated versions with lots of bugfixes not shipped to the user. In fact, there will be no openSUSE release with official KDE 4.9 support. I hope LO will get an update to 3.6 since 3.5 was outdated before the 12.2 release already as well. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] statistics on the release
by Jos Poortvliet 12 Sep '12

12 Sep '12

heya all, I'm working on a little "openSUSE 12.2 well received" kind'a article. I need some numbers to prove the point How many downloads, stuff like that - see what we had last year: http://news.opensuse.org/2011/11/19/opensuse-12-1-launch-feedback/ Who can send some stuff my way or help me out a bit? Thanks! Jos

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