Hello guys,
I do not know if you are aware but some member of the French Community have the desire to reunite the french opensuse forum.
I would like to know your views for this proposition :
- Integrate french opensuse forum into Alionet forum - keep the opensuse-fr irc channel on freenode - integrate all french opensuse documentation into french opensuse wiki.
For me I think it's a good and a bad idea :)
Some prerequisites are necessary for me (and other optionals) : - openSUSE authentification (SSO) with the Alionet community, - nntp protocol - etc ...
Actually we are in talks and all views will be appreciated.
Florian / T1loc
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On Thursday, September 20, 2012 09:17:47 Florian Leparoux wrote:
Hello guys,
I do not know if you are aware but some member of the French Community have the desire to reunite the french opensuse forum.
I would like to know your views for this proposition :
- Integrate french opensuse forum into Alionet forum
- keep the opensuse-fr irc channel on freenode
- integrate all french opensuse documentation into french opensuse wiki.
For me I think it's a good and a bad idea :)
Some prerequisites are necessary for me (and other optionals) :
- openSUSE authentification (SSO) with the Alionet community,
- nntp protocol
- etc ...
I don't know Alionet - but I wonder, wouldn't merging the other way not be more convenient? Get all openSUSE stuff on openSUSE infrastructure... If there are things we're not doing very well compared to Alionet, we better improve that as it would benefit all of openSUSE!
Actually we are in talks and all views will be appreciated.
Florian / T1loc
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Hey Floarian,
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Jos Poortvliet jos@opensuse.org wrote:
On Thursday, September 20, 2012 09:17:47 Florian Leparoux wrote:
Hello guys,
I do not know if you are aware but some member of the French Community have the desire to reunite the french opensuse forum.
An excellent idea,
I would like to know your views for this proposition :
- Integrate french opensuse forum into Alionet forum
- keep the opensuse-fr irc channel on freenode
- integrate all french opensuse documentation into french opensuse wiki.
For me I think it's a good and a bad idea :)
Some prerequisites are necessary for me (and other optionals) :
- openSUSE authentification (SSO) with the Alionet community,
- nntp protocol
- etc ...
I don't know Alionet - but I wonder, wouldn't merging the other way not be more convenient? Get all openSUSE stuff on openSUSE infrastructure... If there are things we're not doing very well compared to Alionet, we better improve that as it would benefit all of openSUSE!
I tend to agree with Jos here.
Actually we are in talks and all views will be appreciated.
Also, a simple redirection, something like opensuse.alionet redirects fr.forums.opensuse.org ( Just an example ) would actually get all you want.
Florian / T1loc
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 00:09:43 +0530, Manu Gupta wrote:
I don't know Alionet - but I wonder, wouldn't merging the other way not be more convenient? Get all openSUSE stuff on openSUSE infrastructure... If there are things we're not doing very well compared to Alionet, we better improve that as it would benefit all of openSUSE!
I tend to agree with Jos here.
As do I. I've been involved in some of the internal forums discussion, and it seems the easier way to migrate from where I stand.
Actually we are in talks and all views will be appreciated.
Also, a simple redirection, something like opensuse.alionet redirects fr.forums.opensuse.org ( Just an example ) would actually get all you want.
I like that idea - we've actually just started talking about ways to make the non-English forums more prominent, and even if we set this up as a redirection to the proper language-based forum root, that would certainly help the visibility. I've asked the staff what they think of it and will see if that's something that's technically feasible (I don't see why not, though).
Jim
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On 2012-09-20 21:10, Jim Henderson wrote:
Also, a simple redirection, something like opensuse.alionet redirects fr.forums.opensuse.org ( Just an example ) would actually get all you want.
I like that idea - we've actually just started talking about ways to make the non-English forums more prominent, and even if we set this up as a redirection to the proper language-based forum root, that would certainly help the visibility. I've asked the staff what they think of it and will see if that's something that's technically feasible (I don't see why not, though).
As an oS forum user, I concur with that.
I take the chance to mention that I do not participate in the Spanish forums because they are not integrated with the openSUSE forums, and thus they don't have an nntp interface.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith))
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Carlos E. R. carlos.e.r@opensuse.org wrote:
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On 2012-09-20 21:10, Jim Henderson wrote:
Also, a simple redirection, something like opensuse.alionet redirects fr.forums.opensuse.org ( Just an example ) would actually get all you want.
I like that idea - we've actually just started talking about ways to make the non-English forums more prominent, and even if we set this up as a redirection to the proper language-based forum root, that would certainly help the visibility. I've asked the staff what they think of it and will see if that's something that's technically feasible (I don't see why not, though).
As an oS forum user, I concur with that.
I take the chance to mention that I do not participate in the Spanish forums because they are not integrated with the openSUSE forums, and thus they don't have an nntp interface.
Also, one of the advantages that came in my mind is less maintenence overhead for alionet admins and more for openSUSE admins. That simplifies the tasks too
Cheers / Saludos,
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2012/9/20 Manu Gupta manugupt1@opensuse.org:
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Carlos E. R. carlos.e.r@opensuse.org wrote:
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On 2012-09-20 21:10, Jim Henderson wrote:
Also, a simple redirection, something like opensuse.alionet redirects fr.forums.opensuse.org ( Just an example ) would actually get all you want.
I like that idea - we've actually just started talking about ways to make the non-English forums more prominent, and even if we set this up as a redirection to the proper language-based forum root, that would certainly help the visibility. I've asked the staff what they think of it and will see if that's something that's technically feasible (I don't see why not, though).
As an oS forum user, I concur with that.
I take the chance to mention that I do not participate in the Spanish forums because they are not integrated with the openSUSE forums, and thus they don't have an nntp interface.
Also, one of the advantages that came in my mind is less maintenence overhead for alionet admins and more for openSUSE admins. That simplifies the tasks too
Cheers / Saludos,
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I agree, completly,with all. There are some advantages but also some inconvenience (Alionet is an independant association, a "concurrent", etc,...)
But I think it would be foolish to take no advantages of openSUSE hardware resources and human skills (even if they are endowed with their forum, etc...). I realized that the french Alionet community want "integrate" the forum and not just take a link.
For me the main "french" activity must be the IRC channel, because there are members actively present in openSUSE project, packaging and who speak some languages.
We need to think for all non-english openSUSE community and not just for the french community.
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:20:25 +0200, Florian Leparoux wrote:
We need to think for all non-english openSUSE community and not just for the french community.
We do currently have a number of non-English language sections on the openSUSE forums, including a French one - I don't know if you've talked with the moderators of that group (though I know someone from Alionet is talking to swerdna as well).
Jim
Le 20 sept. 2012 à 23:35, Jim Henderson hendersj@gmail.com a écrit :
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:20:25 +0200, Florian Leparoux wrote:
We need to think for all non-english openSUSE community and not just for the french community.
We do currently have a number of non-English language sections on the openSUSE forums, including a French one - I don't know if you've talked with the moderators of that group (though I know someone from Alionet is talking to swerdna as well).
Jim
In fact there is a thread in alionet.org, in the ML-FR, a discussion with opensuse moderator, #opensuse-fr and for finish in this ML
Flo
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