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[opensuse-project] grub-0.97 patch errors
by Bergwolf 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hi, all I'm a student currently proposing for an opensuse gsoc project (http://en.opensuse.org/Summer_of_Code_2008#enable_ext4_file_system_as_boot_…) This project aims at enabling ext4 file system as grub legacy boot partition for opensuse and others. I downloaded the grub source package from http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/src-oss/suse/src/grub-0… After decompressing it, I found eventually several patches for old grub-0.93, and grub-0.95 etc. Surprisingly, even some grub-0.97 patches don't work well, such as disk-by-ID: $cat disk-by-ID diff -Burbp grub-0.97.orig/lib/device.c grub-0.97/lib/device.c --- grub-0.97.orig/lib/device.c 2007-03-16 14:15:52.000000000 +0100 +++ grub-0.97/lib/device.c 2007-03-16 17:19:59.000000000 +0100 @@ -869,7 +869,11 @@ write_to_partition (char **map, int driv len = strlen(dev); pnum = ((partition >> 16) & 0xFF); - if (isdigit(dev[len-1])) + if (strncmp (dev, "/dev/disk/by-id/", 16) == 0) + { + sprintf (dev + len, "-part%d", pnum + 1); + } + else if (isdigit(dev[len-1])) { /* It is obviously some RAID disk: "/dev/<dsk>/c0d0" . "p1" */ sprintf (dev + len, "p%d", pnum + 1); $patch -p0 < disk-by-ID patching file grub-0.97/lib/device.c Hunk #1 FAILED at 869. 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file grub-0.97/lib/device.c.rej My questions are: are these old patches applicable to grub-0.97? Does grub running in opensuse10.3 really uses these patches, or just some of them? I know that grub legacy is no longer under development, but since I'm working on an opensuse project, I need to consult the opensuse community to make sure that my ext4 patch cooperates with other patches when it comes out. Thanks, Bergwolf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] End of life - what does it mean ?
by Klaus Kaempf 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Everyone, can we please get back to the thread topic: Does 'end of life' (resp. end of support) for a distribution have to result in its removal from the openSUSE build service ? >From the feedback on opensuse-buildservice, I have the impression that most participant want a 'freeze' and not a 'remove'. Comments ? Klaus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] unsubscribe
by Karlheinz Franke 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE wiki status fo indexing
by Rajko M. 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

First this post is directed to project list because indexing openSUSE wiki is very important for the health of a openSUSE project and I would like to have attention from the most active members of the openSUSE project. Wiki is for the largest number of openSUSE users first source of information, before they go to the forums, mail lists and IRC. There was few attempts to organize indexing of openSUSE wiki, but due to current size of the wiki, indexing project is, for relative small wiki team and lack of experience in development of ways to access information, to big task. Part of the problem is that wiki was initially setup as 'all in one' source of information, translation tool, development, help etc, ie. collaboration platform for very diverse activities, where anybody can, and is encouraged to contribute. That brought a large diversity of topics and number of articles, which is good, but sometimes they are just sitting there unused, and that is the problem. Searching with built in search, or Google for the opensuse.org domain gives some help in this, but as any search it is not ideal for everybody, as precondition for successful search is that person knows something about topic. This leaves users that are making first steps in openSUSE and Linux out, and that is the category that we would like to have as easy entrance as possible. Someone mentioned in one of project meetings that we need information architect. It is very much truth, but I have no idea where to look for person that has experience and time to devote to the openSUSE wiki, or better to say, development of openSUSE information system. -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] End of life - what does it mean ?
by Klaus Kaempf 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Hi, there's a vivid discussion on opensuse-buildservice about the consequenses of "end of life" announcements to the buildservice. See http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-buildservice/2008-04/msg00185.html The question was raised if it is possible to keep older distributions available for download (e.g. unsupported.opensuse.org) and building. Adrian pointed to opensuse-project to get this question answered. Klaus --- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] propose a xen or general virtualization mailing list
by Stephen Shaw 18 Apr '08

18 Apr '08

Here it is henne :) Stephen / Decriptor --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Membership cancellation
by Alberto Passalacqua 17 Apr '08

17 Apr '08

Dear All, how can we cancel our openSUSE membership? Thanks in advance, Alberto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Fwd: [opensuse-project] propose a xen or general virtualization mailing list
by Stephen Shaw 16 Apr '08

16 Apr '08

> > "Stephen Shaw" <sshaw(a)decriptor.com> wrote: > > > > > Here it is henne :) > > > > > > Stephen / Decriptor > > > > > An opensuse-virtualisation ML sounds like a good idea. I'm not so sure > > that there would be enough traffic for one of the specific products > > (Xen/VirtualBox/Qemu/KVM/VMware/OpenVZ). I am possibly wrong > > (wouldn't be the first time) but it's my tuppence worth :) > > > > Regards, > > > > Andy > > > > I agree and would really like a list for virtualization. > > Warm Regards, > Claes Backstrom > email opensuse-virtual-subscribe(a)opensuse.org to get on the list opensuse-virtual(a)opensuse.org Stephen Sorry didn't send this to the list the first time --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] End of life - what does it mean ?
by Plinnell 16 Apr '08

16 Apr '08

On Tuesday 15 April 2008 22:37:14 Marcus Meissner wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:34:42PM +0200, Jan-Simon Möller wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 15. April 2008 21:58:29 schrieb Per Jessen: > > > Klaus Kaempf wrote: > > > > there's a vivid discussion on opensuse-buildservice about the > > > > consequenses of "end of life" announcements to the buildservice. > > > > > > > > See > > > > http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-buildservice/2008-04/msg00185.html > > > > > > > > The question was raised if it is possible to keep older distributions > > > > available for download (e.g. unsupported.opensuse.org) and building. > > > > Adrian pointed to opensuse-project to get this question answered. > > > > > > You said it very well on -buildservice: > > > >>I think we should differentiate between > > > >>- supported > > > >>and > > > >>- available for download/build > > > >> > > > >>I do not see anyone asking for ongoing support and maintenance. But I > > > >>do see requests for availability. > > > > > > I agree completely. I see no reason why the availability of a > > > particular product should be tied to the active Novell/openSUSE product > > > support life cycle. > > > > I agree, too. > > > > And for discontinued releases i would vote for preserving it in the > > build-service one more term (e.g. 10.1 until 10.2 is discontinued). > > So people have the opportunity to softly migrate. > > Btw, > > the buildservice could be used by community members to provide > security update services even after we discontinue it. > > Just needs some volunteers. ;) > > Ciao, Marcus > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, While I would not want to discourage anyone from picking this up - it is a worthwhile goal. I think it is instructive to see what happened to : http://fedoralegacy.org/ I did not participate in that project, but had to admin a few servers running old versions of RH and FC until they could be migrated to newer hardware and a fresh OS. Some comments: Even with the participation of some RH staff, there were only a few dedicated folks to help with packaging and testing. Backporting some fixes in increasingly older versions can be difficult and you can have regressions. From what I observed, the weakest link was testing, in that is was hard get people to test on a variety of systems and platforms. Frankly, while I really did appreciate the legacy teams effort's applying updates, it could be a bit scary knowing how little testing sometimes was done to important bits (mySQL, Apache, PHP and kernels). Especially, when the server is not onsite. Having a choice of applying a possibly botched update or leaving it unpatched is not a happy one. I'm not sure how much support would come from Novell, but I would not be surprised to learn backporting fixes is a major consumer of engineering resources. I seriously doubt this could be done without some major push from Novell. That said, while it might not be a happy choice for all, if you need long term support, SLES/SLED is the way to go. It is not free, but I can say my clients are very satisfied and not one has dropped them for alternatives - even free ones. In sum, supporting this is more than just making some extra space on servers and mirrors, it takes a serious effort by some folks who are above average in packaging and understand security thoroughly - especially on the server side. Just my humble 0.02, Peter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] STATUS:Communication/Wiki/Events
by Martin Lasarsch 15 Apr '08

15 Apr '08

Hi i have to apologize for not posting for a long time, i was just to busy with conferences etc ... * Events - Linuxtag, 28-31.05 Berlin. A wip page with more information: http://en.opensuse.org/LinuxTag I'm happy to announce that the openSUSE day will be this year on Saturday. We still need support at the booth, please send me an email if you want to help us. - some guys from the LUG Marl will be at the hobbytronic, 16-20.04.2008. Not really focused on openSUSE, but they will spread DVDs and make some talks: http://linuxwiki.de/LugMarl/Hobbytronic2008 * Communication - KDE meeting tomorrow: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings * Wiki - everything on hold until we have an updated wiki version online -- with kind regards, Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) martin.lasarsch(a)suse.de - http://www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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