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Re: [opensuse-project] Proposal: Create development information sharing blog for openSUSE activities
by Francis Giannaros 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> wrote: > "Francis Giannaros" <francis(a)opensuse.org> writes: > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> wrote: > >> "Francis Giannaros" <francis(a)opensuse.org> writes: > >> > where people are also individually on the feed of Planet KDE. > >> > >> That would miss the "tagging" part which I consider rather interesting. > > > > In what way? All of those blogs could still have tags, no? > > Usecase: I'm only interested in blogs with YaST tags associated with it. > > And that seemed to be missing in it, I think the best way of overcoming that (and the way other projects handle it) is just by having sub-planets. They could be at i.e. planetsuse.org/YaST as mentioned before. For example, there's Planet KDE but there's also a Planet Amarok, or Planet GNOME and Planet Banshee (or at least there was). This way you avoid having to post the same post in two places, and you still have the specialisation there for when you want/need it. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Announcing the official openSUSE Forums
by Joe Harmon 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 10:07 -0400, Justin Haygood wrote: > Yay! Yet another blow to the competition. Will it be using our > existing Novell accounts (used for bugzilla, the wiki, etc..)? Yes, that is what they are describing when they say it they will be implementing single sign on. Joe Harmon jharmon(a)novell.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[Fwd: Re: [opensuse-project] Board elections]
by Jordi Massaguer Pla 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

i am forwarding my reply as i click on reply instead of replyall.... -------- Missatge reenviat -------- > De: Jordi Massaguer Pla <jordi.massaguer(a)opentrends.net> > Per a: captain.magnus(a)opensuse.org > Assumpte: Re: [opensuse-project] Board elections > Data: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:50:30 +0100 > > El dc 05 de 03 del 2008 a les 22:44 +1100, en/na Magnus Boman va > escriure: > > Jordi, > > > > On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 12:24 +0100, Jordi Massaguer Pla wrote: > > > El dc 05 de 03 del 2008 a les 22:15 +1100, en/na Magnus Boman va > > > escriure: > > > > On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 11:59 +0100, Oliver Bengs wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Am Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:08:12 +0100 > > > > > schrieb Pascal Bleser : > > > > > > > > > > > So please start shooting ideas, brainstorming, thinking out loud. > > > > > > The key questions are: > > > > > > * Who can vote ? > > > > > > > > > > Novell employees can only vote Novell employees and the community only > > > > > community members. > > > > > > > > I agree with Bernhard. > > > > > > > > > > I do not agree at all. If we can not choose the Novell and not Novell, > > > this will never be a community project, it will be a Novell project > > > pretending to be a community. Member votes should be for both for the > > > Novell and the not Novell sits. This way, every electable person should > > > present his/her proposals for the openSUSE distribution. If you want to > > > be a little democratic, let your community choose. Novell already > > > chooses the chairman. > > > > I don't see you point. If everyone (regardless of who they work for) are > > allowed to vote for whoever they want, how will that make it a Novell > > project? At the end of the day, it will still be 2 people from each > > camp. > > What I mean is. If Novell chooses three members of the board, why should > I vote? And moreover, if people at Novell feels themselves as part of > the community, why should not they vote for the community sits? > > I understand that all this vote, board, and membership thing is for > leting everyone be part of it, and everyone means Novell employees and > not Novell employees. > > When I say Novell employees, I mean the ones that are already opensuse > members. > > greetings, > > jordi > > > > > Cheers, > > Magnus > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org -- Jordi Massaguer i Pla openTrends Solucions i Sistemes, S.L. Torre Llacuna C/Llacuna 166, 10º 1ª A 08018 Barcelona Phone: (+34) 93 320 84 14 Fax: (+34) 93 300 35 27 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Support for 10.1 after release of 11.0?
by Cristian Rodríguez 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Josef G. Bauer escribió: > Then --- IMHO --- the schedule really needs to be changed! To be changed, there must be a clear business case and has to be approved by the relevant project manager as every single day an old product keeps being mantained, it costs man-hours and resources (hint. hint **real money**) . -- "Morality is merely an interpretation of certain phenomena — more precisely, a misinterpretation." - Friedrich Nietzsche Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Board Meeting Postponed, Delay with Membership Applications
by Francis Giannaros 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

We regret to inform you that we have had to cancel today's board meeting because a couple of us cannot make it, so we're postponing it until at least next week. This also means there will be a delay with responses to membership applications, so we apologise about this! Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] using membership
by jdd 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

I see at least one situation where it should be fine to have some use of the membership opensuse mail. today I noticed a small dependency problem I could fix myself on a *packman* package I couldn't report it to the packaging list, I'm not subscribed and don't want to subscribe only for that. I don't think bugzilla is made for packman, even if it could be a good idea to open it to them :-) so I mailed to opensuse list, but the mail may be unnoticed that is to say, why couldn't we open with write access all the opensuse lists for @opensuse.org e-mails, without subscribe? of course it should need a little more than checking the return e-mail, some sort of membership check, I don't know if it's simple to do? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://clairedodin.voices.com/ http://www.clairedodin.com/ http://claire.dodin.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse-project] Board elections]
by Gerald Pfeifer 08 Mar '08

08 Mar '08

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Magnus Boman wrote: >> Can a Novell employee vote against his employer? to be fired? > Yes, a Novell employee can go against his employer and no, I don't > think they will be fired for it. I can not guarantee that off course. When there is a vote like this, Novell employees are supposed to vote according to the best of their knowledge. As are those not employed by Novell! I'm really not sure what "going against his employer" means in this context. It's not that there is this Mrs. Eve L. Novell sitting in a dungeon in Nürnberg/Provo/Waltham who controls all of us like string puppets. As with any large organization, there are many parties, often with different points of view or at least facets. The majority of those actually relevant communicate here in the open with the community or are directly connected with those of us who are. And as Coolo or Michl or anybody else in AJ's or my team can surely attest, making openSUSE successful is an explicit objective everyone has received for this year! So, the only way to go against his or her employer would be to actively hurt openSUSE. Not very likely, uhmm? :-) > So should all non-Novell employees have to disclose where they work, > what interest their employer might have in openSUSE, SLE or anything > else that the board might be able to influence? For candidates I would expect this, but certainly not for voters. Very fair point, Magnus. "Hi, my name is Bill. I made a bit of money in software during the last two decades, but now I am unemployed. I have experience serving on the board of my previous company and understand your users have many windows which I have a long history with, so with Open Source on the uptake, how about if I serve on the openSUSE board as an independent candidate?" Gerald -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer E gp(a)novell.com SUSE Linux Products GmbH Director Inbound Product Mgmt T +49(911)74053-0 HRB 16746 (AG Nuremberg) openSUSE/SUSE Linux Enterprise F +49(911)74053-483 GF: Markus Rex

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[opensuse-project] Support for 10.1 after release of 11.0?
by Josef G. Bauer 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

Hello, for how long will there be support for 10.1 after the release of 11.0? Background: we are using SuSE Linux for more than 10 years on several machines with good success. We usually update every two years. Now we want to update from 10.1 to 11.0. This requires a least a couple of weeks of support for 10.1 after the release of 11.0. According to OpenSUSE.org this is not forseen. :-( Best regards Josef G. Bauer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Board elections
by Pascal Bleser 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks We (the board) would like to start working on a proposal for organising the elections of the next board. As a first step, and also because we want it to be an open and transparent process, we'd like to hear about ideas and recommendations about how we should do that. There are obviously a few gotchas with the process for elections. First of all, we don't want to give the impression the board is arranging things to re-elect itself. We most probably won't have a totally bullet proof process wrt that, but we'll do our best weighing what's feasible (and reasonable). As I wrote a few times before, I'm afraid there is a certain amount of trust that has to be put in our hands, as we don't want the process to be overly complicated either. Secondly, we do think that members should have a higher weight, as they have signed the Guiding Principles and are recognized as active contributors. Maybe we should even restrict the right to vote to "official members". To be discussed. And last but not least, here are a few immutable aspects, as defined in the Guiding Principles [1]: * we shall vote to elect 4 board members * 2 of them must be community members (i.e. not Novell employees) * 2 of them must be Novell employees * the chair is a Novell employee and appointed by Novell [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Guiding_Principles#Governance So please start shooting ideas, brainstorming, thinking out loud. The key questions are: * Who can vote ? * Who can we vote for ? * How long should the voting period be ? * How should elections work ? (from an organisational and technical POV) And please also keep in mind we should aim for a process that is simple, fair, and realistic (in terms of implementation). We shall collect that information and map/reduce it into something practicable as well as add our own ideas. The result of that process will be published and discussed here, as well as on IRC meetings. The current plan is to make a public board IRC meeting, possibly on Monday 17th, or the week thereafter if we don't have enough results yet -- we'll announce it on this list accordingly. The process should be driven by everyone, and hence, we're looking forward to your ideas :) PS: for the sake of readability, please - - keep the same email thread - - don't hijack the thread with off-topic discussions - - use proper email quoting and bottom-posting Thanks for reading and for your ideas/feedback. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser(a)opensuse.org> /\\ http://opensuse.org -- I took the green pill _\_v FOSDEM::23+24 Feb 2008, Brussels, http://fosdem.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHzjjMr3NMWliFcXcRAn3CAJ4x77twmfUzGJh3aSJUVOZwfsfliQCgmvZe rq4LwZIodMfdGceNL1fxTdY= =65iF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] HP Servers with OpenSUSE or SLES? Which ones?
by Boyd Lynn Gerber 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

Hello, I am putting together a Demo for OpenSUSE and SLES for a Var meeting in April. HP is providing the Hardware. They have requested for me to give them info on the server's. They have requested part numbers. A quick search of the HP site, did not give me which server's were know to work with SUSE Linux or OpenSUSE. Does anyone know which Server's are the best for Showing of Novell's version of Linux? Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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