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[opensuse-project] Closing the Candor Gap at Novell
by Saill White 16 Nov '06

16 Nov '06

I'm posting this here because I want to reach Novell/Suse developers without throwing it to the wolves on the opensuse user lists. I've been reading all there is to read about the Novell/MS deal since it happened. My company had been considering doing business with Novell, so I'd already been doing diligence. For us the deal changed everything. Definitely made us take a step back from Novell. Novell had been our favorite company because of its developers. I've had Suse on my desktop for more than two years now, and I tend to be more of a dilettante than a loyalist when it comes to OS's. Just haven't had an urge to change. And I can easily find whatever help I need in the mailing list archives. The connection between Novell/Suse engineers and users is unparalleled. There is a feeling of real openness in this community. Watching the fallout from the Deal has magnified my faith in Novell/Suse developers. I am very impressed with how publicly you are struggling with this, questioning it, and expressing opinions about on mailing lists and in on-the-record meetings. I understand that most of you are guardedly optimistic about the whole thing. The contrast between the openness in the developer community and the corporate-style disinformation coming from the Novell execs is glaring. It is much more this lack of candor at the executive level than the deal itself that makes us nervous about going forward with Novell. There is a lot of speculation about the REAL reasons Novell went into this - slipping revenues, sudden need for cash, massive internal FUD due to musical-chairs style executive turnovers... Any or all of these reasons are understandable. I would be greatly relieved to hear these reasons from Mr. Hovsepian or Mr. Jaffe, or anyone at the top level. No matter how sordid the real reasons are, I'm sure they are perfectly sensible and human and reasonable in the context of running a major corporation that has been floundering for quite a while. If the executives started behaving with the candor of the engineers, I believe that they would have a chance of regaining some of the trust of the Open Source community. Some of you guys actually sit down with the execs from time to time, right? What are the chances that you could convince them that if they started to adopt public openness into their corporate culture they would be a lot more credible as supporters of Open Source and Open Standards? I think right at this moment Novell is at a tipping point between closed-door oligarchy and real freedom and creativity. You guys are smart. I have faith you'll figure out a way to give the company a nudge. Saill White saill.white(a)openlina.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] IRC discussion on Agreement? When?
by Boyd Lynn Gerber 14 Nov '06

14 Nov '06

Hello. Last Week in the IRC meeting it was agreed to have an other meeting this week with notice to have all who wanted there to ask/answer questions. What is happening? When is it? Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Question on openSUSE and Novell-MS collaboration
by noniko 09 Nov '06

09 Nov '06

Hi, Recently I have read about many post about Novell-MS collaboration in opensuse(a)opensuse.org ML (Though it is an ML for general support....). I'd like to how openSUSE should think about this topic. I don't think it a weird question, because the "Microsoft/Novell Collaboration" news is at the top page of opensuse.org site. For example: 1.It is a very important news to openSUSE, so the users should keep watching on this topic. 2.It is just a matter of Novell and has nothing or very little to do with openSUSE. 3.openSUSE only report the news and do not think it should make any comments. 4.Now discussing. Later there'll be some announcement from openSUSE. Either of the 4 would be all right for me. I just like to know. noniko noniko(a)netbeans.jp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Reminder: openSUSE status meeting 2006/11/08 18:00 CET
by Martin Lasarsch 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

Hi The next openSUSE status meeting will take place at the official #opensuse-project IRC channel on freenode (irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE-project) this Wednesday at 2006/11/08 18:00 CET (16:00 GMT) This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE. Please add your topics to the meeting wiki page at: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2006-11-08 as soon as possible. Also, if you cannot attend the meeting, but have questions you want to see discussed, please add them to the meeting wiki page as well. For general info about our IRC meetings read: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About For a general technical introduction to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) see http://www.irchelp.org/ (not affiliated with openSUSE) or enter "IRC help" into your preferred search engine. The network we use is freenode - for more information on this, including how to find a server, visit http://freenode.net/ (not affiliated with openSUSE either). -- with kind regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nuremberg martin.lasarsch(a)suse.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------- simply change to www.suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] SPAM: Novell MS Deal
by Tony Pott 04 Nov '06

04 Nov '06

To all the people at SuSE, I know this isn't your fault, and I'm sorry I have to stop using your excellent work. I'm sad to have to change to another distro, I've been a fanboy since SuSE 8.0, but this deal is just disgusting. Best of luck Tony Pott --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] NO openSUSE status meeting this week
by Martin Lasarsch 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

Hi because of a public holiday there will be no status meeting this week. Let's move it to the next week, i will announce it on monday. -- with kind regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nuremberg martin.lasarsch(a)suse.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------- simply change to www.suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] SPAM: Stats
by Martin Schlander 29 Oct '06

29 Oct '06

In 10.1 suseRegister was introduced. I was wondering if there's any chance that the community could get access to some of the resulting statistics, or are these very secret? How many registered installations? How do these spread across different timezones/countries? What kind of hardware do people install on? How many use 64bit for example. I'm very curious to know some of these things. Linux is lacking more or less reliable numbers about the user base. Although I'm sure many users reinstalled 10.1 many times, inflating the stats, these numbers would be very interesting. And of course a comparison with 10.2 numbers would be even more interesting when the time comes. Martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Fwd: Re: [opensuse-project] Stats
by steve reilly 28 Oct '06

28 Oct '06

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] SPAM: Stats Date: Saturday 28 October 2006 17:51 From: steve reilly <sfreilly(a)adelphia.net> To: suse(a)linuxin.dk On Saturday 28 October 2006 17:47, Martin Schlander wrote: Hi, I agree this would be very enlightening. Is this info available only internally at Novell? are statistics posted on the site somewhere? thanks. > In 10.1 suseRegister was introduced. I was wondering if there's any chance > that the community could get access to some of the resulting statistics, or > are these very secret? > > How many registered installations? How do these spread across different > timezones/countries? What kind of hardware do people install on? How many > use 64bit for example. > > I'm very curious to know some of these things. Linux is lacking more or > less reliable numbers about the user base. Although I'm sure many users > reinstalled 10.1 many times, inflating the stats, these numbers would be > very interesting. And of course a comparison with 10.2 numbers would be > even more interesting when the time comes. > > Martin > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org -- SuSE Linux 10.1 ~ Kernel 2.6.16.21-0.25-smp #1 ~ Kmail 1.9 ~ Registered Linux user: 412217 http://reillyblog.com 5:50pm up 6 days 18:43, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.42, 0.58 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] ait radeon mobile 9000
by Holbrook, Robert C 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

are there any plans to add support in xgl (desktop effects) for the ati radeon mobile 9000? Bob Holbrook Infrastructure System Technician Discovery Park, Purdue University (765) 496 - 8302 rholbroo(a)purdue.edu

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[opensuse-project] Reminder: openSUSE status meeting 2006/10/18 18:00 CEST
by Martin Lasarsch 16 Oct '06

16 Oct '06

Hi The next openSUSE status meeting will take place at the official #opensuse-project IRC channel on freenode (irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE-project) this Wednesday at 2006/10/18 18:00 CET (16:00 GMT) This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE. Please add your topics to the meeting wiki page at: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2006-10-18 as soon as possible. Also, if you cannot attend the meeting, but have questions you want to see discussed, please add them to the meeting wiki page as well. For general info about our IRC meetings read: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About For a general technical introduction to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) see http://www.irchelp.org/ (not affiliated with openSUSE) or enter "IRC help" into your preferred search engine. The network we use is freenode - for more information on this, including how to find a server, visit http://freenode.net/ (not affiliated with openSUSE either). -- with kind regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nuremberg martin.lasarsch(a)suse.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------- simply change to www.suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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