October 2020 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Can one manually become a "Member Emeritus"
by Stefan Seyfried 09 Aug '21

09 Aug '21

Hi all, after reading https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members, I understand that I can cancel my membership status with immediate effect and forever. To become a "Member Emeritus", with a "way back" into the community in case things might turn good again, I have to wait for the status request and just not respond to it. But the last such request was almost 3 years ago. IIUC I need to stop all actions on the mailing lists (might be a good idea ;-)) and packaging (not so good) for the bot to pick me up. So is there a manual procedure to follow to become "Member Emeritus"? Best regards, Stefan -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] huge amount of SPAM on opensuse-connect
by christian.imhorst＠posteo.de 02 Jun '21

02 Jun '21

Hi, Am Do., 21. Feb. 2019 um 15:32 Uhr schrieb Lars Vogdt <Lars.Vogdt(a)suse.com>: As such, maintaining 447 [1] openSUSE members should not depend on a single tool. Especially not if the used tool has open, well known security issues since years[2]. On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:41:19 +0100 Richard Brown wrote: > This isn't the first time I've asked this question on a public stage, > but in the hope that this time I get an answer; > Who volunteers to tackle the problem with connect.o.o and drive > forward a solution? I made my proposal already and I stand the point: shut down an insecure system! what does "drive forward a solution" mean? Can we integrate the functions of connect.o.o into other services at openSUSE which are allready maintained like the openSUSE wiki? A form for travel support for example? An application for membership could be done by e-mail to an e-mail address of the membership officials. Elections could be done with an eVote software like https://github.com/mdipierro/evote for example, but probably there are better tools. What did I miss? I think Lars is right an we should shutdown this insecure system as soon as possible. Regards Christian Imhorst -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Please close my membership
by James Mason 28 Nov '20

28 Nov '20

Hello, It is with despair that I ask that you cancel my membership in openSUSE. The constant bickering on the mailing lists is by far outweighing any constructive growth/change in the project, and in light of everything else going on in the world, I just don't have the headspace for all that negative, unproductive noise. I'm cc'ing the project overall; please let this serve as a lesson that if one thinks they can bicker their way to the end result they want, they may find they arrive there alone. James Mason Technical Architect, Public Cloud SUSE

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[opensuse-project] DevConf CfP Deadline
by ddemaio 02 Nov '20

02 Nov '20

Hi all, I want to bring your attention to DevConf.CZ - https://www.devconf.info/cz/. Typically this conference is the week before our beloved FOSDEM. This year it will be happening in mid-February. The call for papers is open until Nov. 1. This is a great opportunity to get your tech talk in front of 1,000+ developers. Each year, this free conference has this amount of attendees and people always ask me about having more SUSE and openSUSE project talks at this event. Seeing that this year's event is virtual, it should be much easier than traveling to Brno. Please consider submitting a talk. I'm sure the organizers would appreciate it. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] download.o.o down?
by Mathias Homann 31 Oct '20

31 Oct '20

Hey all, is download.o.o down? cheers, MH -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann(a)openSUSE.org Jabber (XMPP): lemmy(a)tuxonline.tech IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Community To Have Kickoff Session for Leap 15.3
by ddemaio 28 Oct '20

28 Oct '20

Hi all, The openSUSE <https://www.opensuse.org/> community is inviting package maintainers, contributors, open source developers and Leap 15.3 stakeholders to join the openSUSE community for a kickoff of Leap <https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap> 15.3. The kickoff session starts Nov. 4 at 16:30 UTC on https://meet.opensuse.org/LeapKickoff. You can find more info at https://news.opensuse.org/2020/10/28/opensuse-community-to-kickoff-session-… v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] An update on the Jump and Leap 15.3
by Lubos Kocman 27 Oct '20

27 Oct '20

Hello openSUSE! The last update that you've received from me was the (Conditional) No Go for the Leap 15.2.1. https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Jump/Leap15.2.1:GoNogo There is no longer ar dedicated Closing the Leap Gap/Jump weekly meeting since the Go/NoGo meeting. The only related weekly meeting getting the Jump concept updates would be the openSUSE Release Team meeting that happens every Wednesday at 10:30 CEST. Let me share with you the next steps with Closing The Leap Gap and openSUSE Leap and what I've agreed upon today with openSUSE Board members. I'm going to create a request(s) to set up openSUSE Leap 15.3 based on the setup we've come up with the Jump concept. I believe we have no issues with meeting Alpha/Beta criteria for Leap 15.3, unlike criteria used for Go/noGo for 15.2.1. We should have an initial setup done by the 4th of November to meet the roadmap. As far as 15.2.1 goes, we're making minor progress on both the Migration and Maintenance setup front for 15.2.1, but I'm not sure if that will be enough. Meanwhile, I'll keep monitoring the situation around Leap 15.2.1 in case that something would change this week and will come up with the final statement for the potential Leap 15.2.1 release on the 2nd of November. I want to close one chapter so the openSUSE Release team can focus on the upcoming Leap release. We've already delayed openSUSE Leap 15.3 enough. **With that said, I would like to announce that there will be a small openSUSE Leap 15.3 kickoff event on the 4th of November. ** The form would be a virtual coffee or beer (depends on your TZ) && friendly informative talk. I'll talk to openSUSE Marketing about what's the best format to handle such an event. Please expect an announcement with details later this week. -- Lubos Kocman, Release Manager openSUSE Leap SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg - Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Geschäftsführer: Felix Imendörffer

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[opensuse-project] Does the elephant in the room of openSUSE mailing lists exist?
by Adrien Glauser 26 Oct '20

26 Oct '20

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hello, As far as I understand there is no centralized tool allowing users to manage their mailing list subscriptions. Each ML has to be individually micro-managed. Also MLs seem to assume that only messages from subscribed users are allowed through (even though there is a nice message that informs you if you are not yet subscribed that the message you just sent is "pending approval", in my recent experience none of the messages I sent this way actually went though). So the business logic here entails that sending message to several MLs pushes you under the following bus: Either your messages will land on the "waiting for approval" purgatory and probably won't ever go through Or you have to manually subscribe to every single ML you want to write to keep track of all of them (to avoid sending a message to the one ML you forgot you weren't subscribed to); and you have to add filters to your email client (as opposed to a centralized web manager) to avoid drowning in a tsunami of emails; and you have to be empirical about this, making sure your filters don't get false positives or negatives. Not a cool dilemma. I mean ML clearly have their purpose but if I didn't miss anything obvious, this does not help with making the ML for attractive to people born after 1995. Am I missing the obvious? Also what's the margin for feasible improvements? How strong do we need to push to shake up status quo? Best, Adrien -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEU4ol/0bSQTwqpAkNMy9Aieh+wJwFAl+NkY4ACgkQMy9Aieh+ wJzsBQf9GR19TZXld33zFfQzpSZGjs8QXGsWIVddQcaqAuJd1M0Wl+fFO2uYMTfI iVdOXpxSG3iGpOH0EtW4e6hdppW3GopffUSM2tJKfvgSXM5NOgtpZA/rBUl7lneb XOwWWD4bWn3w2pz1ucgAcc7NKv/ivkRoLnNqoH1zf6XUzLkDJfuvRYAKJf5A2NL3 Lt7/QnLoqYgsB+EOTdCwkN1utiogW1iVGgGs4SJsNSe96f9Dv9G1FWcT/Dw8IKho zvObm4J2hHOY3oYGxzjaAup3lons8Rjol0xE7XYkOV1T+9CZn/8v6/97Iv/F0HhK 3bwC3jaEq0341VYfqDC8y9+ZAusPGQ== =gkr0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [DRAFT]NAPA Cleveland Camera Quote
by Malcolm 24 Oct '20

24 Oct '20

Hi Patrick Here is the first draft of the quote. -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) Tumbleweed 20201022 | GNOME Shell 3.36.7 | 5.8.15-1-default Intel DQ77MK MB | Xeon E3-1245 V2 X8 @ 3.40 GHz | Intel/Nvidia up 6:59, 1 user, load average: 0.63, 0.69, 0.58

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