December 2006

[opensuse-project] Changes in Bugzilla
by Andreas Jaeger 24 Mar '07

24 Mar '07

I'd like to inform you about the following two changes to bugzilla: openSUSE 10.3 ============= We have created a new product and opened it. Some of the bugs that will not be fixed for 10.2 are moved over to that product. SUSE Linux 10.0 =============== Our policy is to only fix security bugs for released products and we fix the occasional critical bugs. Security bugs are reported by the security team and with 10.1 out and 10.2 nearly finished, we're not fixing critical bugs anymore so we … [View More]

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE @ FOSDEM 2007 call for papers/speakers/participants
by Christoph Thiel 11 Jan '07

11 Jan '07

Hi everyone, After a very successful FOSDEM participation in 2006, we are happy to announce that the openSUSE project will be taking part at FOSDEM 2007! Besides representing openSUSE with a booth, we managed to get one of the greatly demanded "devrooms", to conduct sessions centered around the openSUSE project. So, first of all, what the heck is "FOSDEM"? Quoting fosdem.org: >> The seventh Free and Open source Software Developers' European Meeting is a 2 days event, organized by … [View More]

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[opensuse-project] Site going down at release
by Francis Giannaros 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

Hi, Are there any extra measures in place to prevent opensuse.org going down before the official 10.2 announcement, because of the hype? Regards, apokryphos. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Unnanswered questions regarcing Novell-Microsoft agreements
by Ray David Whitmer 07 Jan '07

07 Jan '07

1. How does one support Suse as a customer while avoiding and opposing the per-seat false patent tax collected by Novell in behalf of Microsoft? 2. Can/will Novell still use its patents to protect open projects by threatening to sue Microsoft to keep projects free as was pledged in the past. 3. Not even Microsoft and Novell can contest the fact that they did their best to circumvent the intent of the GPL. Does this set the tone for the future, especially with respect to the likely … [View More]

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[opensuse-project] NIC
by Jay Smith 06 Jan '07

06 Jan '07

So, I figure you guys developing Opensuse may know what's going on. I am running an MSI computer with Microstar International motherboard, Intel 915 chipset, etc. The driver is Realtek for my wired NIC and when I installed 10.1, during the hardware scan, it found it. After install, it couldn't recognize it as wired NIC so I can't get wired internet. When I look at Hardware details, it is listed. I am using the SMP version of the kernel. Can you tell me how to get my wired NIC working? My … [View More]

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[opensuse-project] "Meetings" using email to overcome time zone limitations.
by Rajko M. 01 Jan '07

01 Jan '07

The IRC as realtime has it's limitations for worldwide usage. It has to be split in regional branches in order to be useful for people that are at work, sleep etc. Second, the people that don't type fast can be only observers. I don't see why email is not good for topics that are discussed on meetings. There is seldom something urgent that has to be solved in real time like it is with installation and configuration issues, where IRC is in obvious advantage. The only problem is that … [View More]

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[opensuse-project] Announcing openSUSE-community.org
by Francis Giannaros 25 Dec '06

25 Dec '06

Many productive things came out of the first community meeting on IRC (http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Community_Meeting_2006-12-16/minutes) In the brainstorming section, one of these things was the decision to have a completely new resource for openSUSE-user created content; a place where we could document the stuff that we can't put directly onto opensuse.org, such as packman and guru tutorials, codecs, etc. There are many such sites, so we first assessed whether any of them was … [View More]

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Re: [opensuse-project] One very bad chosen IRC OP . . .
by Jozef Peterka 25 Dec '06

25 Dec '06

> This mailing list is really not an appropriate place. I am sorry for that. But I can not stand another no reason ban from the same person. So I thought everyone should know how are the users of #suse channel treated by [daemon] > I won't comment on whether the ban was fair or not as I was not > watching the channel at the time. It does appear from a cursory glance > at the logs that you continued to ask the same question several times > after being given an answer and a link … [View More]to read several times too, with > no indication you were listening to the answers. That might be true ... but there is saying in Slovak language I try to translate: "Repeating is mother of knowledge" and if only answer from [daemon] is ban when I ask again for more specific help, then I just dont know ... [daemon] actually even did not send me the link ... it was another user. And it was link to tldp.org ... the howto I have got printed before me on my desktop. The theme of "conversation" was different... nevermind. > > Official statement [daemon] gave to me - "I don't like idiots who don't > > listen" or something like that. And that he's giving me some lesson... I > > think the reason and "my crime against rules" was that I asked for help and > > maybe disagreed with [daemon], and I still disagree ... > > If disagreement and asking for help is a reason to ban user from channel, then > > this OP [daemon] is either frustrated that he will spend christmas alone and > > must compensate this on IRC or something, or he is some kind of comunist > > fighting against DEMOCRACY, or I don't know... But there is one thing I know > > for sure. Even if [daemon] is some "project VIP" this kind of man has nothing > > to do as OP in #suse channel. > Even if you were correct and the ban was the result of a > misunderstanding that is no reason to attack the person directly. > [daemon] has helped in the channel for years and also helped > Still, [daemon] started to insult me first - just check the log and see the truth. I have learned much 'bout my first ban from [daemon] about half year ago, so I did not started to insult this time, it was he who started. Still ... nevermind. The point is, OP should not insult anyone in the channel... Maybe he is tired of noobie questions and so on... so maybe its time for fresh blood in OPs lines ;) > > I am not talking just about myself and my "ban without meaning", but about his > > continuous arogance, intolerance and rude behaviour againts linux newbies or > > totally new people to linux-community. > > That has not been my observation. But I observing it . . . it's happening when some noob ask noobie questions... and its a nigthmare when I see [daemon] is active on channel > I agree, and endeavour to be as polite and tolerant as possible, and > only ban when allowing someone to remain in the channel would reduce > the channel's effectiveness. In #suse we are actually far more > permissive than most channels, some policing must be done though, or > the trolls make the channel unusable. good to read at least one "I agree" :) but I still dont see the reason why kick/ban user when he is conversating on topic on the channel, which is channels' purpose isn't it? > The ban was not for long, you can soon rejoin. > [daemon] has given up his time to help people and police the channel > for many years. > I'm also not sure what you mean by "officially demand". The #suse > channel is unofficial, [daemon] is one of the oldest channel members. The question is: Do I want to rejoin after two "no reason ban incidents?" or even better Would some "#suse channel first-timer" want to rejoin after something this discouraging? I am answering YES. Cause I try to oversee people like [daemon] all my life, who fully enjoy the POWER they have, even if its small and pointless power, and who respect no one lower than their level of experiences and knowledge... Nevertheless, I respect [daemon] for what hi did and still doing for #suse, but disagreement is not disrespect. Thank you very much for reply Best wishes KaiSVK --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org [View Less]

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[opensuse-project] One very bad chosen IRC OP . . .
by KaiSVK 23 Dec '06

23 Dec '06

Dear and respected openSuSE community, I have been banned from IRC channel #suse by "some" [daemon] for, I believe, NO REASON. If I am mistaken, please, mail me the reason... Official statement [daemon] gave to me - "I don't like idiots who don't listen" or something like that. And that he's giving me some lesson... I think the reason and "my crime against rules" was that I asked for help and maybe disagreed with [daemon], and I still disagree ... If disagreement and asking for help is a … [View More]

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[opensuse-project] zypper not installing updated packages
by Craig Millar 21 Dec '06

21 Dec '06

I've noticed that zypper appears to be ignoring packages that it is aware have updated versions available. For instance, I know that there is a newer build of amarok in guru's repository, and it appears that zypper is aware of this too: fool:~ # zypper sh zypper> ref # refreshes repos ok zypper> info amarok Parsing metadata for packman... Parsing metadata for gnome-community... Parsing metadata for suse-non-oss... Parsing metadata for kde... Parsing metadata for wine... Parsing metadata … [View More]

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