June 2021 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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lifecycle wiki page
by ddemaio 16 Aug '21

16 Aug '21

Hi all, There was a recent post on reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/m1xl56/is_opensuse_leap_ready_to_be…) that made us take a look at how to present our lifecycle page (https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime) and info to be added to the marketing of Leap 15.3. There were several comments on reddit that can be summarized as there is a lack of clear information on how long the lifecycle of Leap 15.x will be going forward. When the info on https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime was originally written, there was some clarity on major versions lasting a minimum of 36 months. We know Leap 42 and 15 exceeded that lifecycle. It looks like we're at a point where we evolved and need to provide a bit more clarity for people based on the reddit comments I propose we change the lifecycle page to include the following sentences and include the info in the marketing of Leap 15.3 and beyond (for the foreseeable future): Leap *Major Release* (15.x) extends maintenance and support until a successor. At present, a successor has not been declared; Leap 15's lifecycle fully aligns with SUSE Linux Enterprise. There is a projection as of March 2021 that Leap 15 will extend to Leap 15.5. Both major versions of Leap 42 and 15 were supported more than 36 months. Any thoughts, changes, removals or additions to the above sentences. v/r Doug

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[opensuse-project] Can one manually become a "Member Emeritus"
by Stefan Seyfried 09 Aug '21

09 Aug '21

Hi all, after reading https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members, I understand that I can cancel my membership status with immediate effect and forever. To become a "Member Emeritus", with a "way back" into the community in case things might turn good again, I have to wait for the status request and just not respond to it. But the last such request was almost 3 years ago. IIUC I need to stop all actions on the mailing lists (might be a good idea ;-)) and packaging (not so good) for the bot to pick me up. So is there a manual procedure to follow to become "Member Emeritus"? Best regards, Stefan -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Looking for a Code stream name
by Adrian Schröter 08 Jul '21

08 Jul '21

Hi, I like to discuss the upcomming single common name for repositories for "Code 15-3". Given that we use the Jump concept now with Leap 15.3, it makes no sense that we offer by default SUSE_SLE_15_SP3 SLE_15_SP3_Backports openSUSE_Leap_15.3 repositories in parallel for each OBS project anymore. The content should be identical and it contradicts the purpose of having a binary compatible base. So, in near future OBS will change it's interface and allow basically only to select one repository for "Code 15-3". You can decide to include Backports or Leap packages on top of SLE 15 SP3 as build and install dependencies, but no matter how you configure it as OBS user, the resulting repository name should have the same name. The big question is, what should this repository name be? People need to understand that they can use it on openSUSE Leap 15.3 or on any SUSE SLE 15 SP3 installation. Do you have any suggestions? thanks adrian -- Adrian Schroeter <adrian(a)suse.de> Build Infrastructure Project Manager SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany (HRB 247165, AG München), Geschäftsführer: Felix Imendörffer

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openSUSE Sprint on Thursday, July 1
by ddemaio 05 Jul '21

05 Jul '21

Hi all, Our monthly Thursday sprint is scheduled for July 1 at 18:30 UTC. We have moved the meetings to in https://meet.opensuse.org/bar. The plan is to go over the various topics listed on https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/websprints and revisit topics we've gone over in the past months. Feel free to add a topic. v/r Doug

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openSUSE.Asia Summit CfP
by ddemaio 30 Jun '21

30 Jun '21

Hi all, The Call for Papers for the openSUSE.Asia Summit is open for another 10 days. Please consider submitting a proposal at https://events.opensuse.org. Just login and submit the proposal. There are short talks, normal talks and workshops. You can view more info about the CfP at https://news.opensuse.org/2021/06/28/osa-cfp/ v/r Doug

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3 additional review rounds for the openSUSE Leap 15.3 retrospective
by Lubos Kocman 29 Jun '21

29 Jun '21

Hello openSUSE! The first review round of the openSUSE Leap 15.3 retrospective happened as part of the openSUSE Conference last Saturday. let's have at additional rounds, where we'll continue from where we've ended last time (marked with "<break"). Three rounds should be sufficient, based on the amount of data and our pace from the first round. Dates: June 22nd - 7-8am UTC (9-10am CEST) June 22nd - 15-16pm UTC (17-18pm CEST) June 23rd - 7-8am UTC (9-10am CEST) In all cases let's use our favorite collaboration space https://meet.opensuse.org/bar for increased outreach. Everyone is welcome to join! The idea is to screen share, read through the data, collaborate with reviewers on action items, etc, and hopefully, also categorize the issue in the way how we did that in 15.2. I'd like to make sure we process the data before the openSUSE Release Team meeting this Wednesday. Where I'd already like to provide some "summary" of what to focus on in Leap 15.4. The working document for retro review can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-Leap-15.3-retro-20200616 Best regards Lubos Kocman openSUSE Leap Release Manager

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Survey: code stream name
by ddemaio 29 Jun '21

29 Jun '21

Hi all, Per the conversation kicked off by Adrian (https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/thread/…) there is now a survey available at https://survey.opensuse.org/ on this topic. Please submit your preference. The survey is set to close this Friday at 13:00 UTC. v/r Doug

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Gerald on this weeks DLN
by Luna Jernberg 29 Jun '21

29 Jun '21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqOdmb6XDOU Gerald on this weeks Destination Linux Podcast

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Re: 3 additional review rounds for the openSUSE Leap 15.3 retrospective
by Lubos Kocman 26 Jun '21

26 Jun '21

Hello team, we did have a massive gallera outage which effected also our lovely etherpad on last Thursday therefore we still have a backlog to review. Therefore I'm announcing two additional "morning" rounds of Leap 15.3 retro in our virtual /bar June 28th - 9-10am UTC (11-12am CEST) https://meet.opensuse.org/bar June 29th - 7-8am UTC (9-10am CEST) https://meet.opensuse.org/bar I would really like these to be final, as we've spent enourmous time on it already. So please expect some speed review. More details at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-Leap-15.3-retro-20200616 As usually everyone is welcome to join and help us to make suggestions for action items. Lubos On Thu, 2021-06-24 at 09:25 +0200, Lubos Kocman wrote: > Thank you Daniel! > > Lubos > > On Wed, 2021-06-23 at 16:31 +0200, Daniel Noga wrote: > > Dne 23. 06. 21 v 15:24 Lubos Kocman napsal(a): > > > line 586 Regression to Leap 15.1 and Leap 15.2 Outdated mesa, > > > again, > > > actually more than in Leap 15.2 . Currently not an issue for me, > > > as > > > an > > > user of NVidia, but considering buy AMD card, that can be issue > > > for > > > me > > > in future. > > > > > > ^ Please reference the existing bug or open a new bug so we can > > > follow > > > up on more details. I did ask Stefan Dirsch but he was not aware > > > of > > > anything specific. > > > https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Submitting_bug_reports > > That is just bad formating from survey form, originally it was > > every > > point new line, but I see here, that new lines are lost. > > > > "Regression complain" was to disabling preempt. Outdated mesa was > > another point and only as fear for future, than affecting me > > nowadays. > > In 15.2 was already conservative with 2 major versions behind to > > release > > date, in 15.3 is even more convervative with 3 major versions > > behind > > (21.1 released in may, 21.0 in march, 19.3 in december) > >

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