June 2020 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Can one manually become a "Member Emeritus"
by Stefan Seyfried 09 Aug '21

09 Aug '21

Hi all, after reading https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members, I understand that I can cancel my membership status with immediate effect and forever. To become a "Member Emeritus", with a "way back" into the community in case things might turn good again, I have to wait for the status request and just not respond to it. But the last such request was almost 3 years ago. IIUC I need to stop all actions on the mailing lists (might be a good idea ;-)) and packaging (not so good) for the bot to pick me up. So is there a manual procedure to follow to become "Member Emeritus"? Best regards, Stefan -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] huge amount of SPAM on opensuse-connect
by christian.imhorst＠posteo.de 02 Jun '21

02 Jun '21

Hi, Am Do., 21. Feb. 2019 um 15:32 Uhr schrieb Lars Vogdt <Lars.Vogdt(a)suse.com>: As such, maintaining 447 [1] openSUSE members should not depend on a single tool. Especially not if the used tool has open, well known security issues since years[2]. On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:41:19 +0100 Richard Brown wrote: > This isn't the first time I've asked this question on a public stage, > but in the hope that this time I get an answer; > Who volunteers to tackle the problem with connect.o.o and drive > forward a solution? I made my proposal already and I stand the point: shut down an insecure system! what does "drive forward a solution" mean? Can we integrate the functions of connect.o.o into other services at openSUSE which are allready maintained like the openSUSE wiki? A form for travel support for example? An application for membership could be done by e-mail to an e-mail address of the membership officials. Elections could be done with an eVote software like https://github.com/mdipierro/evote for example, but probably there are better tools. What did I miss? I think Lars is right an we should shutdown this insecure system as soon as possible. Regards Christian Imhorst -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] opensuse vs opensuse-support mailing list
by ITwrx 28 Aug '20

28 Aug '20

hi, I'm wondering what the difference is between these two lists, or why they both exist/which to use. opensuse English Generic questions and User to User support for all the openSUSE distributions opensuse-support English openSUSE support thanks, ITwrx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Call for a No-Confidence Vote - Re-Election of the openSUSE board
by Pierre Böckmann 02 Aug '20

02 Aug '20

Dear openSUSE community members, this is a call for a no-confidence vote against the current openSUSE board. We should initiate a poll, asking the community whether it wishes a full re- election of the openSUSE board. Reasoning: In advance of the last board member elections Sarah’s application as a candidate raised concerns regarding the expressed opinion and wording. Those concerns were a matter of discussion on the mailing list with a lot of partly harsh words on both sides. Throughout the weeks before the election and throughout the election weeks Sarah’s application and its wording and expressed opinion had at no point been ruled as violation of Guidelines or the Code of Conduct. There has even never been any discussion about it. If there would have been any evidence or indication of a violation those points should have been a topic and should have lead to ruling Sarah out of candidacy. But for good reasons that has never happened. Despite those mentioned public criticism the *community members decided to legitimately elect Sarah* as a new board member. Later, like Marina states in her mail to the community in behalf of the board, 2/3rds of the board members decided in the weeks after the election to force Sarah to resign from the board due to claimed breaches of the guiding principles and the Code of Conduct of which there has never been any evidence or indication and has never been considered and discussed throughout the weeks before the election and the election weeks itself. Even worse, like Christian stated in an answer to the mentioned board statement, at least parts of the board itself breached the guiding principles and Code of Conduct in a very heavy way which even lead to Christian's decision to step down, too. As a result the community has been very upset about the incidents which are subject to this mail. Criticism and distrust in the board had already been around since Sarah and shortly after Christian resigned from the board but even intensified after the board decided to try shutting down speculations and discussions around the reasons for both to step down with their statement published by Marina. As a member of the openSUSE community those last few weeks and its incidents which became finally public are raising serious concerns about whether the openSUSE board is really still making decisions in the full interest of the complete community or rather is putting its own interests above those of the community and respecting the community's elections and the community's rules itself. Therefore we, as the electing community, should initiate a poll and see whether the needed 20% of the community members are in favor of making a clean new start by re-electing the complete openSUSE board instead. Kind regards Pierre Böckmann P.S. Though a few details have become known, we don't know all of the in-depth details. Therefore I want to assure that this mail is not intended to be disrespectful towards the board and/or its members as well as each individuals work in favor of the openSUSE project and the openSUSE community. Nonetheless we can not and should not ignore what has happened in the last few weeks and the unacceptable nature and disrespect towards the community elections outcome, rules and principles. Additionally I am well aware that not everyone will be happy or be agreeable to my proposal of a full re-election of the openSUSE board. Be assured, I took the time and thoroughly thought out this step and that I think that this proposal is in the best interest of openSUSE as a project and a community. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Upcoming election to backfill a board seat
by Gerald Pfeifer 01 Aug '20

01 Aug '20

Dear openSUSE members, just off today's meeting a brief note that the openSUSE board has unanimously agreed to backfill the open board seat with an election for that vacancy. The next steps will be initiated by our trusted openSUSE election officials. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out! Gerald -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE + LibreOffice Conference Will Take Place Online
by ddemaio 31 Jul '20

31 Jul '20

Hi all, I just wanted to give you an update on the conference for those of you who might not have seen it. There is also the option for a mini summit below. I'll send more information from our latest meeting once we work out the details. If you want to help with the planning of the conference, feel free to contact me. v/r Doug Organizers of the openSUSE + LibreOffice Conference <https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSLO> along with the project’s boards have made the decision to change the conference to an online conference. The uncertainty surrounding the COVID-19 pandemic and its effect on travel, conference planning, logistics and possibility for attendees to come to the event were reasons for shifting the event from a physical event to an online event. Shifting the conference online is good news and the organizers intend to provide a great conference that is filled with insightful talks, technical presentations and sessions dedicated for those who want to socialize during the event. Using video a conferencing tool, attendees learn about new technologies in openSUSE and LibreOffice and have the chance to chat to developers and ask questions. Communities involved in marketing, design, QA and other topics will be able to meet online, catch up and exchange ideas. The Call for Papers (CfP) will remain open and people can continue to submit their talks until July 21. The submissions for the CfP will continue to take place on the Open Source Event Manager (OSEM) instance at https://events.opensuse.org. The collection of submissions will be organized in the OSEM tool, but the online event will take place on a different website site like the one recently used for the openSUSE Virtual Summit – https://opensuse.reqmagic.com. The platform works with Firefox, Chromium and other open-source browsers. The software leverages various APIs (YouTube, Dolby, etc) to enable web based service, which is entirely HTML5 based with no plugins required. More information can be found at https://news.opensuse.org/2020/06/02/opensuse-libreoffice-conference-will-t… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Non-Confidence Petition
by Ish Sookun 28 Jul '20

28 Jul '20

Dear openSUSE Members, We have set up an electronic petition on Helios for the Non-Confidence Vote that Pierre Böckmann called for [1] on the 13th of March 2020. The petition will end on the 14th of July 2020 at 23h59 CET. The schedule of the petition is as follows: - 30 June 2020 - Publish wiki page about the petition, its schedule & procedure - Announcement of the petition on the project mailing list & social media - Ballot is open - 14 July 2020 - Ballot is closed - 15 July 2020 - Result is announced on the project mailing list This information is also published on the openSUSE Wiki [2] and if further clarification about this petition is needed please send your questions to election-officials(a)opensuse.org. If 20% or more of the members sign the petition (by casting a vote) then, an election for the complete Board seats will be triggered, otherwise an election only for one vacant seat will be triggered. If you don't want to sign the petition, then simply ignore this email and do not vote. If you want to sign the petition, then follow the voting instructions sent to you on your member email alias. Regards, Ish Sookun (on behalf of the Election Committee) [1] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-03/msg00091.html [2] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Non_Confidence_Petition -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Upcoming marketing brainstorm (This or early next week)
by Lubos Kocman 27 Jun '20

27 Jun '20

Hello team, I' would like to schedule a marketing brainstorm session for openSUSE Leap 15.2 prior to launch on the 2nd of July. It should be this or early next week. I'd like to ask you to pick up one or more time slots that work for you at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/openSUSELeap152MarketingBrainstorm This document will also serve as a scratchpad and meeting minutes. Meeting itself will happen in a virtual form at https://meet.opensuse.org/Marketing The task to schedule this event is tracked here: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/61344 We can absolutely do more than one round if necessary. ps. I did message the Telegram group openSUSE_Marketing. Thank you -- Best regards Luboš Kocman Release Manager openSUSE Leap SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nuremberg Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Managing Director: Felix Imendörffer

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Distribution Tiers Policy
by Dirk Müller 25 Jun '20

25 Jun '20

Dear openSUSE project members, If you're a careful reader of the opensuse-factory mailing list, you can stop here. Otherwise I would like to highlight that a few days ago I posted for review on the openSUSE distribution Tiers policy. This should define which architecture builds of openSUSE we consider premium Tier and fully maintained. The draft can be found here: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OpenSUSE_Distribution_Tiers_Policy I appreciate your feedback. I would hope to get it from you by July 1st. Thanks a lot in advance, Dirk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Translating the Release Announcement for openSUSE Leap 15.2
by ddemaio 25 Jun '20

25 Jun '20

Hi all, The release announcement for openSUSE Leap 15.2 is ready for translation. We have some weeks before the release in July. It would be highly appreciated if you could help to translate the release announcement to your native language and help promote the news of that release. Currently the release is only in English. Please link your translated version to the top and include your ISO 639-1 Code language code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639-1_codes) I have placed the release announcement on the openSUSE wiki at https://en.opensuse.org/Release_announcement_15.2. This is the single point from where I will take all the links of the translated versions. Please remember to link your translated version to your ISO 639-1 Code on https://en.opensuse.org/Release_announcement_15.2 If you have any questions, please let me know. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] IMPORTANT: openSUSE account migration - deadline
by Christian Boltz 22 Jun '20

22 Jun '20

Hello, important and urgent note for everybody with an openSUSE account (used for bugzilla, the wikis, forums, buildservice etc.) yet: If you did not migrate your account to the new account system yet, please do so in the next 3 days (until June 18th). You can find more details about the account migration on https://idp-portal-info.suse.com/ [1] The actual migration is done on https://idp-migrate.opensuse.org (login with your old account, then set a password for the new account) The original deadline was end of June, but sadly it was shortened to June 18th. After this date, AFAIK account migration won't be possible anymore, and you'll have to create a new account (with a new username). Just to make it clear: the openSUSE account ("community account") is now a separate account, independent of the "commercial" SUSE account for which you received a mail about a month ago ("New SUSE User Accounts - partners and customers"). I'm only the messenger, so please don't shoot me ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz [1] You can also find this link in the migration note on bugzilla, the forums and the wikis. -- ... you start off with a typical message, let's say a 2.5MB Word document containing three lines of text and a macro virus ... [Peter Gutmann] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Feature Requests
by Jason Evans 19 Jun '20

19 Jun '20

Hi all, What is the best way to submit a feature request for Leap/Tumbleweed? For example, there is one package that is a little over a year out of date. If I had the time to learn how to OBS, I could build it myself and submit it but in the meantime, what the best way to ask? Should I ping the package maintainer or is there another way? Thanks, Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] @suse.com unavailable 16:00 UTC today til 4:00 UTC on Monday
by Gerald Pfeifer 15 Jun '20

15 Jun '20

Hi everyone, in luckily one of the last steps to complete the IT carve out of SUSE from Micro Focus, SUSE employees won't have access to our @suse.com e-mails from 2020-06-12 16:00 UTC to 2020-06-15 4:00 UTC. E-mails are not supposed to get lost, we just have been advised not to send, receive, or connect otherwise. (And realistically Monday may be a bit, umm, interesting for many of us. Wish us luck.) Gerald PS: Yes, it's now past that deadline, but I missed to hit send while on my train ride this afternoon. Let's see whether it gets out... PPS: @opensuse.org and @suse.de mail systems should not be affected. -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com>, CTO @SUSE + chair @openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Fwd: Apps microconference for Linux Plumbers
by ddemaio 15 Jun '20

15 Jun '20

Hi all, Sri, in cc, contacted me about an interest of having a microconference for the online Linux Plumbers Conference (https://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/) that would focus on the apps ecosystems and highlight the efforts being done by distros, desktops, freedesktop, etc. He is looking for speakers who would be interested in providing featured talks that highlight issues and solutions related to the application experience on Linux platforms. Topics can focus on the following: Schedulers as related to applications Systemd / cgroups resource management Display technologies (X11, Wayland, others) Graphics drivers Innovative technology applicable to userspace Memory management (tools, tweaks, guidance for apps) Power saving (tools, tweaks, guidance for apps) Security If you are interested, please let us know. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Default search engine on search-o-o
by Stasiek Michalski 11 Jun '20

11 Jun '20

Hi, We got a PR sent our way about a change in default search engine https://github.com/openSUSE/search-o-o/pull/10 I would like to hear opinion of the community at large before merging it Thanks in advance, LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Update on petition to call for a non-confidence vote
by Ish Sookun 01 Jun '20

01 Jun '20

Hi Mark, I apologize for the slow flow of information. The online petition hasn't started yet despite the proposed date of 25 May. That is the reason why we did not post the wiki page and members did not receive any voting credential. We will update community members as soon as we have all information ready to run the online petition. Details will follow then. Regards, Ish Sookun On Sun, 2020-05-31 at 20:59 +0200, Mark Stopka wrote: > Hi, > do we have update in this? I can't find the wiki page, nor have I > received a voting credentials... > > Thanks! > -- > Best regards / S pozdravem, > BSc. Mark Stopka, BBA > > mobile: +420 704 373 561 > > > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:55 PM Ish Sookun < > ish.sookun(a)lasentinelle.mu> wrote: > > Dear community members, > > > > A call for the re-election of the openSUSE Board was made by > > openSUSE > > member Pierre Böckmann [1] on the 13th of March 2020. > > > > The openSUSE Board election rules [2] state the following regarding > > "forced re-election", > > > > « If 20 per cent or more of the openSUSE members require a new > > board, an election will be held for the complete elected > > Board seats. » > > > > Therefore, the Election Committee is setting up an electronic > > petition > > whereby openSUSE members can state whether they support a re- > > election > > of the Board by casting a vote. The procedure will follow similar > > rules > > as the previous electronic elections. > > > > openSUSE members [3] having an active membership will receive their > > voting link and credential on their member email alias. Once they > > log > > onto the voting platform they will be presented a question that > > asks: > > > > "Are you in favour of a re-election of the Board?" > > > > There will be only one answer to select and which states: > > > > "Yes, I call for a re-election of the openSUSE Board" > > > > Members who want to sign the petition to call for a non-confidence > > vote > > can do so by voting yes. > > > > The petition will allow the Election Committee to measure whether > > 20% > > of the community are in favour of a re-election. > > > > === Schedule === > > > > The petition schedule will be as follows: > > > > 25 May 2020 > > - Publish wiki page about the petition, its schedule & > > procedure > > - Announcement of the petition on the project mailing list & > > social media > > - Ballot is open > > > > 15 June 2020 > > - Ballot is closed > > > > 16 June 2020 > > - Result is announced on the mailing list > > > > We are hereby calling the community to comment on the above > > procedure & > > schedule. The deadline for comments is 20 May 2020 23h59 CET. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ish Sookun > > > > (on behalf of the Election Committee) > > > > [1] > > https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-03/msg00091.html > > [2] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules > > [3] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Board Meeting Minutes 2020-05-26
by Axel Braun 01 Jun '20

01 Jun '20

== Attendees== Marina, Vinz, Simon, Gerald, Axel Guest: Doug deMaio Minutes taken: Axel Meeting start: 22.00 CEST == openSUSE Jitsi instance== Board tested the Jitsi instance and found out that IPv6 connections are not working properly. Switch back to old solution. Thanks to Marco for analysis ==oSLO== Doug aligned with TDF Team and TDF proposal is to move to virtual conference Cancellation fees of 50% for room apply anyway. Deadline for final decision is 21. July Most likely people from outside Europe will not be able to tavel in. Expected 90% participants from Europe Virtual meeting would give some more flexibility in terms of timing and deadlines (call for papers etc) Tool developed for the openSUSE virtual summit should be used. It is still being developed, but worked already nicely in the virtual summit Board discussed until when we need to keep the decision open Opinion within the board is not homogeneous. Decide today to go virtual ? Board voted 3-1-0 (pro/contra/abstain) Doug to prepare corresponding press release Doug left the call at 23:15 ==Non-confidence vote== Election officials asked for membership list from membership officials. AI: Gerald to follow up on this ==Meeting organization== Marina pushs to re-vitalize the use of the agenda-wiki. Collect items until 4 days before call distinguish public/private items send public agenda 2 days before call to project list Option for project members to join public part Dry-run fo next board call. Marina to drive Meeting closed 23:30 CEST -- Dr. Axel Braun <docb(a)opensuse.org> Member of the openSUSE global project board -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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