January 2012 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] talk at or visit Linux Open Administration Days
by Jos Poortvliet 12 Apr '12

12 Apr '12

Hi all, April 16-17 in Antwerp, Belgium, the Linux Open Administration Days will take place. This free event offers a chance for LPI certification as well as meeting and talking to linux sysadmins. There is a call for presentations here: http://www.loadays.org/content/call-presentations If you want to go and give a talk there about openSUSE tech - that's be awesome. If you can't afford to go there due to travel or hotel costs, let me know, we might be able to work something out ;-) cheers, Jos

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[opensuse-project] CLT in Chemnitz 17./18. March 2012
by Kai-Uwe Behrmann 22 Feb '12

22 Feb '12

Anyone interessted to organise the openSUSE booth and bring green covers, LiveCDs and all the fun? I will present openSUSE colour management on a Oyranos booth and want to measure devices. kind regards Kai-Uwe -- www.oyranos.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Indiana Linux Fest
by Bryen M Yunashko 05 Feb '12

05 Feb '12

I am currently making arrangements to secure a booth for the Indiana Linux Fest held in Indianapolis on April 13-15. If you are in the area and would like to join in the openSUSE festivities, please let me know so we can coordinate plans together. :-) Also, Call for Papers is currently open until February 7th. If you'd like to submit a talk, the link is: http://www.indianalinux.org/cms/speaker_app Look forward to meeting all of you there soon! Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project Marketing -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] First Planning Meeting for openSUSE @ SUSECon
by Bryen M Yunashko 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

We are launching the Kickoff meeting to plan for the openSUSE Conference following SUSECon. This conference will be held in Orlando, Florida September 21-23. Meeting Information: #openSUSE-Project Freenode IRC Channel [1] Wednesday - 1 February, 2012 18:00 UTC (1 p.m. Eastern/10 a.m. Pacific) [2] Now what?: Please visit the wiki page which outlines our agenda, tasks and open questions. [3] Who should attend the kickoff meeting?: We strongly encourage people from US, Canada, Mexico and Central America to participate in the planning. We also encourage people from other parts of the world who may or may not attend but still have valuable 2 cents to contribute to the planning. :-) See you on Wednesday! Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project [1] irc://freenode.net/#opensuse-project [2] Local Time http://bit.ly/AoLcg6 [3] Wiki Page: http://en.opensuse.org/SUSECon_Planning -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] SOPA blackout - I don't think openSUSE ought to be making political statements.
by Per Jessen 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

Just my opinion - I think openSUSE should stay far away from politics of any kind. It doesn't matter whether it might affect the project or not. If we had seen a discussion of SOPA on opensuse-general or -factory, it would have been fairly quickly relegated to opensuse-offtopic. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-2.1°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Membership
by Robert Schweikert 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

All, During today's project meeting a discussion about openSUSE membership started, see earlier posts to the list for meeting minutes. While we have documented procedures (http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members) on how to become a member, we do not have any guidelines about what it means to be a member in good standing. Additionally, the only way to get pruned from the list of members is to repeatedly violate the guiding principals or actively request removal. I am suggesting that the conditions for loss of membership are not sufficient. As briefly discussed in the meeting today we have about 500 or so members. Also in a recent meeting it was suggested that we have a large contingent of non active members. This would then explain why we end up with only 200 and some odd votes of 500 members for the board elections. As probably anyone who is a member of some club or association knows, there is always some condition, often a fee, that assures continued membership in said club or association. No I am NOT proposing a membership fee for openSUSE. However, I am proposing that we come up with a mechanism to prune our list of members and that there is no such thing as a "free" (as in I don't contribute) life time membership. I propose the following guideline: " On even years of membership anniversary (that would be year 2, 4, 6...) a member gets an automated e-mail. - If the e-mail bounces and there is no other means to contact the person than the person is removed as a member. - If the person does not respond within two weeks, another e-mail is sent. If after 2 additional weeks no response is received the person is removed as a member. A response to the received e-mail should include a short list of areas in the project where the member was active during the past two years. This can be verified by the membership team. With the response and verification membership continues. " I realize I am proposing more work for the membership committee, sorry. However, I would hope that this is not too much of a burden. With maybe 300 or fewer active members there would be on average less than 1 verification e-mail per day sent. In addition this is spread out based on anniversary date of membership, thus the additional verification should be small. Why would we as a project want to do this? IMHO, it is important that our members are active and contribute to the project. There is nothing gained for us as a project to accumulate a large number of members when the members are not active in the project and do not contribute. Having only members that are active also bestows more meaning on board election results and other votes we might have in the project. This goes back to my earlier comment and leads to a question, what does it mean when the board gets elected with a vote count that is less than 50% of the membership? (I am not implying that I am dissatisfied with the board). No direct answer to this question please. If we have only active project participants I would speculate that we will get participation of 80% or more. Last but not least this should create a perceived draw to become a member, as you can only be a member and remain a member if you contribute to the project. For the discussion, I'd like to ask that people stick to the topic and not go off on some tangent ;) I have added this as a topic to the next project meeting (Feb 8, 2012) and will provide a summary of the discussion on the wiki. The board can then make a decision on how to move forward on this proposal based on the summary, and hopefully board members will be following this thread. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Dream openSUSE Initiative
by Richard Brown 31 Jan '12

31 Jan '12

Hi Andi, I'm curious, what exactly is the intended goal of this initiative? If it is about changing the default settings in an effort to improve usability, how do you intend to implement any changes which are identified as necessary by this initiative? Doesn't this seem to be a little weird coming from the artwork team? To me, default settings of a desktop environment is probably something better investigated and implemented by the various maintainers of openSUSE's different environments. I really do not like the idea of KDE, GNOME, XFCE, LXDE, etc all sharing common defaults without very good reason and acceptance of all the teams involved. We have different environments for a reason, they attract different users with different needs, we should embrace those differences. I know in the GNOME team for example, we spend a lot of time discussing and collaboratively deciding on what we believe to be the best range of settings for our users, based on our own knowledge of the environment as well as user feedback. An initiative like this seems to be treading on the toes of the work already done by our GNOME, KDE, and other DE maintainers. Furthermore, some of the 'proposals' already on the wiki look like they're calling for some pretty major work (new notifications?), who do you foresee picking up and doing this sort of work? are we likely to be able to get such changes submitted upstream? I don't mean to sound like I'm slamming this, I'm know you're trying to do something cool and help out, but I'm very confused how the art team is expecting to carry this initiative forward.. apologies for clearly not understanding the proposal when it was raised in our team meeting and now having to bring my confusion to the mailing lists Richard >>> andi robert 01/30/12 7:24 PM >>> Hello my dear friends The artwork team recently had a meeting in which a couple of ideas were proposed. One of them is the Dream openSUSE Initiative. The idea behind this proposal is to have a wider understanding of what a desktop environment is for each of our users. All of us work with openSUSE and many time we tweak and change our graphical environments to fit our particular needs, we would like to know about these changes that you have made to your graphical environment under openSUSE to better determine what defaults work for our users. We are currently gathering these screenshots here http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Dreamopensuse The steps to be part of this investigative initiative are as follow Set up your computer desktop they way you want it Take a screeshot Submit your screenshot at our wiki Note: If your changes, settings or tweaks are not readily visible, show us a screenshot of your settings managers or explain the settings changes that you have made. This initiative is not about artwork as much as it is about usability among our members. Therefore, when submitting screenshots, make sure that your special usability settings are also noticeable. Note: The wiki page is not perfect, of you feel inclined to make changes to it, please do so. :D Andy (anditosan) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Fwd: distromatch and debtags at Fosdem
by Jos Poortvliet 31 Jan '12

31 Jan '12

For those at FOSDEM and interested in cross-distro things, see below. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: distromatch and debtags at Fosdem Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 16:13:09 From: Enrico Zini <enrico(a)enricozini.org> To: distributions(a)lists.freedesktop.org Hello, I will be giving two talks in the cross-distribution room at Fosdem which I would like to turn into actions. I'm posting here a summary of my talks and what I wish would follow from them. If you think the goal is worthwile / would like to take care of it, please join the talks and help make it happen: http://fosdem.org/2012/schedule/event/distromatch "I wrote Distromatch, shall we use it?" Saturday, room H.1301, 18:15--19:00 I'd like to create a loosely coupled group, with at least one person per distribution, with two goals: 1. keep distromatch (the python command line tool and the data exports) working and accurate; 2. use it to improve one's own distribution by "stealing" data from all the others. http://fosdem.org/2012/schedule/event/debtags_reloaded Debtags.debian.net reloaded! Sunday, room H.1302, 10:00--11:00 I'd like to see other distributions adopt debtags. A starter dataset can already be exported over distromatch. If one wants to go further, the whole debtags.debian.net django app should be easily re-themable and deployable for other non-debian distributions: I can show how. Ciao, Enrico -- GPG key: 4096R/E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini <enrico(a)enricozini.org> -----------------------------------------

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[opensuse-project] Dream openSUSE Initiative
by andi robert 31 Jan '12

31 Jan '12

Hello my dear friends The artwork team recently had a meeting in which a couple of ideas were proposed. One of them is the Dream openSUSE Initiative. The idea behind this proposal is to have a wider understanding of what a desktop environment is for each of our users. All of us work with openSUSE and many time we tweak and change our graphical environments to fit our particular needs, we would like to know about these changes that you have made to your graphical environment under openSUSE to better determine what defaults work for our users. We are currently gathering these screenshots here http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Dreamopensuse The steps to be part of this investigative initiative are as follow Set up your computer desktop they way you want it Take a screeshot Submit your screenshot at our wiki Note: If your changes, settings or tweaks are not readily visible, show us a screenshot of your settings managers or explain the settings changes that you have made. This initiative is not about artwork as much as it is about usability among our members. Therefore, when submitting screenshots, make sure that your special usability settings are also noticeable. Note: The wiki page is not perfect, of you feel inclined to make changes to it, please do so. :D Andy (anditosan) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [opensuse-ambassadors] Northeast Linux Fest March 16th and 17th
by Chuck Payne 30 Jan '12

30 Jan '12

> Guys, I am currently work with Jonthan from NELF, we have a table it is free for us. I am wanting to know because I can't find it, what is the e-mail to ask for DVD's? Thanks, -- Terror PUP a.k.a Chuck "PUP" Payne (678) 636-9678 ----------------------------------------- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux. ----------------------------------------- openSUSE -- en.opensuse.org/User:Terrorpup openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein Register Linux Userid: 155363 Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Boosters Sprint Meeting 2012-01-30
by Thomas Schmidt 30 Jan '12

30 Jan '12

Present: prusnak, mrusecky, cwh, idoenmez, wstephenson, tschmidt, alan, vincent Missing: hvogel (holiday), rlihm (studio), nkrinner (school), coolo, maxli ------------------------------------------------------------------------ General Topics: - FOSDEM: We will once again go there with the openSUSE Love Bus, bringing lots of Old Toad, Shirts etc. Some people have Talks and we will help to manage the distro miniconf. See the cross-distro schedule here: http://fosdem.org/2012/schedule/track/crossdistribution_devroom - Robert will be back from the Studio Team next monday ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Status Reports: openStack Sprint Status: https://trello.com/board/openstack-on-opensuse/4eca026f7f32b10eeaa75ab9 The plan is to finish the remaining openstack tasks until next week. Ismail: Last week: tested appliance, worked on license bugs, Plan for this week: Work on Dell touchpad problem (kernel), test the appliance on real hardware Cwh: Last week: stuck with debian packaging, hermes bugs Plan for this week: debian and ubuntu packaging of openstack Michal: Last week: rebuild appliance in studio (http://susestudio.com/a/H1nQym/opensuse-cloud-powered-by-openstack), swift testing, swift examples This week: Work on the swift package, add example config Will: Last week: Not in the office This week: catchup, prepare for fosdem, online updates for 12.1, start 12.2 work Prusnak: Last week: Pushed remaining openstack packagesto Factory, only rabbitmq-server is pending review. This week: Help cwh with ubuntu packaging Tschmidt: Last week: Testing the appliance, FOSDEM organization, holiday This week: FOSDEM orga, testing the updated appliance Vincent: Last week: Resolved issues in git packages (checksum), remaining problem: debian 3.0-> reformat This week: Prepare for Fosdem, Factory auto submit (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-packaging/2012-01/msg00191.html) Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tom [at] opensuse.org) openSUSE Boosters Team "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (11.03.1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] One more reason for having a foundation
by Manu Gupta 29 Jan '12

29 Jan '12

Hi All, Today as I was discussing on the -marketing channel with you a few people around. I dont know if its a brilliant idea or not but if we have a foundation we can certainly encourage startups. Perhaps such sort of behaviour lead to future sponsorships and better technical engagements too. -- Regards Manu Gupta -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] SSL cert update for opensuse.org hosts in Nuremberg
by Marcus Rueckert 27 Jan '12

27 Jan '12

hi Thursday 2012-02-02 we will update the certificates for all openSUSE hosts located Nuremberg (see detailed list below). The fingerprint of the new certificate is: [[[ Signed with security(a)suse.de key: pub 2048R/3D25D3D9 1999-03-06 uid SuSE -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 SHA1 Fingerprint=F0:76:9C:42:D3:F1:C0:ED:C6:F6:15:C0:F8:D5:C7:29:60:EB:53:46 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBTyAnZXey5gA9JdPZAQI7yQf/d4OqlBnV4WT80cqI3DVGGcEacTSES8Ux dK0z9aW/UQWFTHGoQmDk8xcgHED/mHVAlywIPgccbleWNi3NND3+1EAvsxnR5M1m mdVsNYOEsGDrk/3qvPVzyTjkBgINOnetH/0Hd77NhxaDVkU0f1Tl0wbO5NdhKy6m 0dmGwJgUESi3IQjubaibmGZHCZPfEEO0ReW00tRDjFpV4MnU923/BZWT30WuvfMo ClSedk0r6PBt3FGr5yqIFyjM1i3CX/dioW1nJ3qOP1GKMDGLSL20YEY6ZE/F8nL4 bycPLfTjDxKodWXeAmeBlXNTNVYxjphowtjYMQqFe7hXyUkSHBCLLQ== =UhMT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ]]] The following hosts will be affected: * static.opensuse.org * api.opensuse.org * build.opensuse.org * connect.opensuse.org * features.opensuse.org * hermes.opensuse.org * login.opensuse.org * notify.opensuse.org * svn.opensuse.org * ci.opensuse.org We do not expect any service interruptions, but some users run with strict certificate checks. With kind regard Your openSUSE admin team -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Artwork Meeting Reminder
by andi robert 27 Jan '12

27 Jan '12

Hello all Please make yourself part of the artowork meeting on saturday, january 28, 2012 at 19:00 UTC We will choose the winners from the wallpaper contest and discuss a couple of ideas for artwork in the upcoming release. If you would like to make some inquiries to the meeting, please make them known in our meeting wiki page http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Art_meeting Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Request for a __new__ spin for Cinnamon
by Nelson Marques 27 Jan '12

27 Jan '12

Dear all, Cinnamon[1] is a 'gnome-shell' fork and it's becoming the main Desktop of Linux Mint. Currently it's composed of only 3 packages: * cinnamon - the shell * cinnamon-settings - a GUI configuration utility for cinnamon (gnome-shell has 'gnome-tweak-tool', cinnamon has cinnamon-settings) * muffin - cinnamon's window manager I would like to maintain a LiveCD spin off from 'Cinnamon' from openSUSE 12.2 onwards having in consideration the following: * An official LiveCD for Cinnamon (which on a later stage 12.2+n would introduce also MATE); * Introduce a higher customization level to meet the demands of our users and answer the calls for improved image; * Introduce a different set of default applications, for example: - drop Firefox and introduce Google Chrome as default browser; - add gwibber to the default patter; - drop useless crap like liferea (use chrome apps) and a few others; - default install with gconf-editor and dconf-editor - improved GDM screen - introduce emoK (a fork from mint's welcome screen, previously 'tirpitz' and renamed to emoK to answer the call for blood against 'tirpitz', emoK stands for "Emo Kids", yes, it's meant to be cinical :)) - This spin will have it own artwork set and it's meant to be visually different from the traditional openSUSE spins, it's more work... sure... I'll find artists or pick artwork from other sources and package it myself... It's imperative it gets it's own visual image and identity for success. The main goal is to provide an alternative option that can bring new users to openSUSE (mainly desktop moders, hype/trend wannabes and people who seek a different experience), reinforce and strengthen up our GNOME user base at least to 60% of openSUSE users so we can then make a claim to other things. - Will this pose a problem to anyone? - What do I need to do to secure that this spin will happen? NM [1] - http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Music distro
by James Mason 26 Jan '12

26 Jan '12

On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 13:07 -0600, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: > It's my understanding that we can use Packman with Studio images. > However, maybe someone with more expertise on the legalese, can explain > what pitfalls we need to consider when using Packman. Packman repos *are* available via SUSE Studio. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Meeting minutes
by Robert Schweikert 25 Jan '12

25 Jan '12

Here are the minutes from todays project meeting. (03:06:23 PM) bugbot has changed the topic to: Happy 2012 to the Project! | Welcome to the openSUSE Project channel | For support /join #opensuse | Next project meeting: 26 Jan @ 1800 UTC (03:06:24 PM) bugbot: Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 20:06:23 2012 UTC. The log and minutes are available from: (v 0.1.4) (03:06:24 PM) bugbot: Minutes: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2012/opensuse-proje… (03:06:24 PM) bugbot: Minutes (text): http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2012/opensuse-proje… (03:06:24 PM) bugbot: Log: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2012/opensuse-proje… Enjoy, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Project meeting logs
by Manu Gupta 25 Jan '12

25 Jan '12

Minutes for project & board meeting so that people do not miss out on it. [01:36] <bugbot> Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 20:06:23 2012 UTC. The log and minutes are available from: (v 0.1.4) [01:36] <bugbot> Minutes: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2012/opensuse-proje… [01:36] <bugbot> Minutes (text): http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2012/opensuse-proje… [01:36] <bugbot> Log: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2012/opensuse-proje… [01:36] <AlanClark> Thanks everyone for participating! [01:37] <anditosan> :D -- Regards Manu Gupta -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Nice candidate to be an OpenSuse Wall Paper
by kunal ghosh 25 Jan '12

25 Jan '12

Was sifting through my regular dose of National Geographic Photo of the day and found this shot http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/visions/field-test/sartore-biodiversity/i… ideal to be an OpenSuse wallpaper. the gallery: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/visions/field-test/sartore-biodiversity/p… -- regards, Kunal Ghosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Music distro
by Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) 25 Jan '12

25 Jan '12

Hello team, After the mail that Bryen sent about Linux Audio Conference (http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2012/) and the passing of a musical university in Greece to open source, I thought to propose it. Can we make a distro focus on music with such software and codecs? Some of them areMixxx,Audacity,Rosengarden,Alsa Mixer,Ardour,jack control,jack server,JAmin,Musescore and many more. I'm not into music (only listen) and don't know what they need. I believe that it can be done easy to SUSE Studio (I didn't search if there's one). Personally I face some problems to setup my appliance with mysql and apache servers and a CMS like program. Have a lot of fun! Stathis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 18:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 24 Jan '12

24 Jan '12

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 18:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=25&month=1&year=2012&h… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] 12.2 Wallpaper Artwork Submission Is Over - Voting Open
by andi robert 23 Jan '12

23 Jan '12

Hello my dear friends of the community Our wallpaper submission deadline for openSUSE 12.2 is now over. We asked a few of our artists to help us create a good selection of wallpapers for the upcoming release. Our deadline was fixed very early since the wallpaper is has become a key element in creating derivative artwork, such as Twitter banners, Facebook profile pictures, DVD sleeves and many other things. Hence our early date, we wanted to work on our artwork early enough so that we can make more derivative artwork faster and with improved quality. We understand that there may be people in the community who have worked on wallpapers for 12.2 and have not yet submitted them to the wallpaper artwork page located here http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Wallpapers If you know of anyone who is worked on a wallpaper and would like to submit them, please let us know via email. You can reply to this email to let us know as well. That way we can include everyone who wanted to give this contest a try. If no there are no replies by Monday January 23, 2012, we will assume that such wallpapers cannot make it into the contest. Another change we made this time is that we will choose one default wallpaper and then two other wallpapers as extras in case users would not want to use the default wallpaper. For this I am trying to find out what packages can carry the default wallpaper and what package can carry the other 2 wallpapers chosen. Please, if you know, post it on this email thread. I believe coolo might now, would you let us know what is more recommendable in case we want to include more wallpapers? As usual, you can review the wallpapers on the page mentioned above and start voting just like it was done last time. One more thing, thank you so much artists for your great and valuable work. openSUSE should look pretty awesome after your contributions made it to the release. Thank you again. PS: My emails are imperfect. I may have omitted important information. If so, please add it to this thread. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Music distro
by James Mason 23 Jan '12

23 Jan '12

On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 18:59 +0200, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) wrote: > Can we make a distro focus on music with such software and codecs? Some > of them areMixxx,Audacity,Rosengarden,Alsa Mixer,Ardour,jack > control,jack server,JAmin,Musescore http://susestudio.com/search?q=media -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Californians! Linux Audio Conference CFP + Event
by Bryen M Yunashko 23 Jan '12

23 Jan '12

The CFP deadline slipped by me, apologies for last minute notice to you all. But maybe we can still convince them to give space for talks if you folks come up with something good. Linux Audio Conference will be April 12-15 in Palo Alto at Stanford University. If any of you are into audio or are a media artist, this is a great place to go and promote openSUSE as well. See: http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2012/ Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] SOPA blackout - I don't think openSUSE ought to be making political statements.
by Joop Boonen 21 Jan '12

21 Jan '12

On Wed, January 18, 2012 9:51 am, Per Jessen wrote: > Just my opinion - I think openSUSE should stay far away from politics of any kind. I don't think this is politics, this is about our internet freedom. I agree that openSUSE supports the SOPA blackout. > It doesn't matter whether it might affect the project or > not. If we had seen a discussion of SOPA on opensuse-general > or -factory, it would have been fairly quickly relegated to > opensuse-offtopic. > > > -- > Per Jessen, ZÃ¼rich (-2.1Â°C) Regards, Joop. > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] OFF-TOPIC - US delays bill in wake of piracy protests
by Basil Chupin 21 Jan '12

21 Jan '12

The first stage of the Hollywood-backed anti-piracy bill will not go before Congress as planned, with voting indefinitely delayed after an online protest by Google and Wikipedia earlier this week <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-18/wikipedia-goes-offline-to-protest-us-…>. There were widespread protests this week and Wikipedia blacked out its site for 24 hours, arguing the bill would create censorship. [More] http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-21/us-delays-bill-in-wake-of-piracy-prot… -- It is in the nature of things that every time you try to avoid one danger you run into another. Niccolo Machiavelli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: SOPA blackout - I don't think openSUSE ought to be making political statements.
by Richard Brown 20 Jan '12

20 Jan '12

>This is exactly why I propose openSUSE should just say no and refrain >from all political activism. There are millions of issues openSUSE >could devote its time and energy to, but because our members and users >are highly unlikely to agree on even one, the best option is to stay >away. >Per Jessen, Zürich (5.5°C) The project took a stand against an issue which, while regional in legislative terms, would be international if put into in effect, and threaten much of the infrastructure that makes our project possible With SOPA/PIPA, it was in our best interests to join the protests, and make it clear that the legislation threatens the smooth running our project There are millions of issues out there, but only a handful of them directly effect us, and even fewer raise issues we cant easily route around. SOPA/PIPA was one of these rare few. We're not an activist group, we're an open source community, and the only place politics should have here is making sure we speak loud enough to keep external political influence out of our project. In an ideal world, I agree, we shouldn't have needed to do anything at all, but then again stupid american politicians shouldn't be trying to legislate across borders and implement technical solutions that make no sense for their countries petty commercial interests Personally, I have no doubt we needed to be involved in this protest. I hope to never see the project involved in a protest like this again, but that's up to the rest of the world applying common sense when drafting technical legislation. Sticking our head in the sand and hoping other people will make the same points as we need made to survive isn't a responsible option if we want to keep openSUSE moving forward. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org Richard Brown Systems Engineering Team Leader City College Brighton and Hove Make learning a new skill your New Year’s resolution! City College has a wide range of adult evening and weekend courses starting in 2012 (http://www.ccb.ac.uk/public/courses/adult-new-year) - perfect for those who want to acquire a new skill, meet new people or even learn a new language. For more information, call 01273 667759, email info(a)ccb.ac.uk or see our website at www.ccb.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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AW: Re: [opensuse-project] Re: SOPA blackout - I don't think openSUSE ought to be making political statements.
by Michael Kromer 20 Jan '12

20 Jan '12

> On Saturday, January 21, 2012 00:29:00 Basil Chupin wrote: > > On 21/01/12 00:17, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 19, 2012 00:29:59 Carlos E. R. wrote: > > >> On Wednesday, 2012-01-18 at 22:15 +0100, DenverD wrote: > > >>> On 01/18/2012 08:52 PM, Guido Berhoerster wrote: > > >>>> I was trying to point out that the reasoning behind taking part > > >>>> in this protest promoting a certain politica agenda (no matter > > >>>> how well intended) is rather arbitrary and the said slippery > > >>>> slope. > > >>>> And I'm rather surprised the board is even entitled to make > > >>>> decisions about such matters which are at best peripherally > > >>>> related to openSUSE on behalf of the project. > > >>> > > >>> i agree and suggest the board grossly overstepped their authority > > >>> and > > >>> their irresponsible behavior should be dealt with in some > > >>> appropriate > > >>> fashion...their removal would not be any more radical than their > > >>> decision to jump into USA politics.. > > >>> > > >>> btw i am very anti-SOPA/PIPA but that is a private individual matter > > >>> between me (as a citizen) and my government....this Community and > > >>> its > > >>> Board has _no_ standing in this matter whatsoever...in fact it is > > >>> almost as childish to go black for a day as it is for the US > > >>> government > > >>> to think it can control the net in the first place...they do not > > >>> have a > > >>> clue. > > >> > > >> I agree, too. > > >> > > >> I may agree with the decission, but not in the form. The board can not > > >> decide for all in something so important as taking a political stance. > > > > > > Ooh, get over it. And the same goes for Guido, Denver and Per, by the > > > way. Blah Blah Blah. > > > > > > A significant proportion of our user- and contributor base could be cut > > > off from our websites due to some ridiculous law in the USA. Half the > > > web, including sites like Wikipedia, is going black. In a public IRC > > > meeting the board takes the consensus on the channel and decides (on > > > short notice, there was little time) to join the worldwide protest. > > > They did what they should do - as board. And you all voted for them to > > > make decisions like these, so get of their backs and into your cage. > > > > > > IF you have serious issues, send them to the board in private, don't > > > bikeshed. > > > > > > Esp Denver - "irresponsible behavior of the board" - dude, take your > > > happy pills. You guys are, as usual, shooting with a canon at a flee at > > > 2 feet distance and honestly it is getting VERY tiring. > > > > > > Instead of bikeshedding, loadhttp://bit.ly/xY4Mzs and be useful. > > > > You're overdoing the "bikeshed" crap. > > > > And your language above does not fit in with your role as Community Manager. > > > > BC > > Oooh, I can't say bad words and call things by their name? Boehoe. It's my JOB > to do that. Others might block silly treads like this one, or simply > unsubscribe from the list. I'd rather unsubscribe those who start them and > keep em going. If I could this list would just have lost 4-5 people causing > 85% of its traffic. And be a place of zen and tranquility again. > > And you say this is not bikeshedding? let's see. 75 mails and counting, wel > over 20 by Per alone. Nothing new in the last 65 of those. Have I used the > term 'drama queens' yet? Let me apply that to this thread and those keeping it > pointlessly going... I totally agree in 2 points: - Jos, you are right, but I guess you should act a bit more diplomatic than like what you are doing atm. call things by the name: great. Offending others: bad. - Lets get back to work. SOPA blackout was a decision by voted board. "Irresponsible behaviour" is not what I would agree to - Its a protest form. If openSUSE board thinks that's a good idea, I respect the decision of the board. And c'mon we're in good company if even non-political Wikipedia goes for it. Just my 0.02$ - mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Bostonians: LibrePlanet CFP deadline
by Bryen M Yunashko 20 Jan '12

20 Jan '12

Hey folks in the Northeast Region of United States: FSF's LibrePlanet conference will be held in Boston on March 24 and 25 at University of Massachusetts. If you'd like to give a talk on openSUSE stuff, the deadline to submit is in just a few days, January 24. See http://libreplanet.org/wiki/LibrePlanet2012 for CFP details. Bryen M Yunashko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Portland Open Source Bridge CFP
by Bryen M Yunashko 19 Jan '12

19 Jan '12

The call for papers has just been announced for Open Source Bridge in Portland Oregon June 26-29, 2012. http://opensourcebridge.org/blog/2012/01/announcing-the-2012-call-for-propo… If you've got a great talk for openSUSE, and you're in the Pacific Northwest region, you should submit. The deadline for submission is March 16. Thanks, Bryen M Yunashko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Google Code-in Thoughts and Reviews
by Manu Gupta 19 Jan '12

19 Jan '12

Hi All, Google Code-in will come to an end in a few days. I would like to take the opportunity to ask feedback from people. We can discuss it from here. Personally for me, the questions that I had like to ask are this 1. How do you think Google Code-in helped us? 2. Where are the areas we can try to improve and how can we improve? A very special Thanks to Matt, Vincent, mentors and students who made this possible. -- Regards Manu Gupta -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] OFF-TOPIC : Sopa: US backers end support for anti-piracy bill
by Basil Chupin 19 Jan '12

19 Jan '12

Eight US lawmakers have withdrawn their backing from anti-piracy laws, amid "blackout" protests on thousands of internet sites. Two of the bill's co-sponsors, Marco Rubio from Florida and Roy Blunt from Missouri, are among those backing away. Online encyclopaedia Wikipedia and blog service WordPress are among the highest profile sites to block their content. [More] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16623831 -- It is in the nature of things that every time you try to avoid one danger you run into another. Niccolo Machiavelli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Re: [opensuse-project] stupid 12.1
by Albert 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

Let's pay attention to other daily people comments from https://features.opensuse.org/312946 > "It is like Gnome Desktop Environment developers are now working against Linux... > Pure Gnome3 is just a BIG & major regress on Linux desktop, it makes Linux desktop productivity more difficult and bring useless features. Even the bars are frozen, you cannot interact, neither visual customize or configure anything. > The only Linux Mint & Mate bring some hope... I have installed open SUSE just because Linux Mint 12 have some installation bugs on HP d530 desktop, if no Mate repo I will leave open SUSE." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Berliners! CFP for LinuxTag 2012
by Bryen M Yunashko 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

I have the following information recently received: The LinuxTag 2012 will take place from 23.5. to 26.5.2012 at the Berlin Fairgrounds. The call for papers ends at the 31.1.2012 and we need the papers up to that date in the virtual conference system of the LinuxTag: https://vcc.linuxtag.org/ Anyone who is in the area and wants to represent openSUSE as well as possibly assist at a booth, please send in your papers quickly. Contact the openSUSE marketing team to help organize a booth as well. Bryen M Yunashko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] The openSUSE Board invites the openSUSE community to begin planning an openSUSE event in North America
by Alan Clark 17 Jan '12

17 Jan '12

Subject: The openSUSE Board invites the openSUSE community to begin planning an openSUSE event in North America. Earlier today, SUSE delivered the exciting announcement of SUSECon, a SUSE annual conference, to be held in Orlando on September 18-21, 2012.[1] Additionally SUSE has reserved the conference venue through September 23rd and is offering the site to the openSUSE community for a multi-day openSUSE community planned event. A North America openSUSE event would not replace the openSUSE conference! The annual openSUSE conference continues to draw an increasing number of attendees, but many from North and South America have been unable to make the trip to Europe and have voiced the desire for an event a bit closer to home. SUSE, upon hearing of interest from several USA community members, was able to extend the availability of the September venue to the openSUSE community to develop and plan an event in North America. Creating an openSUSE event, co-located with SUSECon, creates an exciting opportunity to engage and further build the growing openSUSE community in the Americas. Volunteers from the openSUSE community are needed to plan, organize and staff the event. If you can help out in September, please attend the next openSUSE Project meeting on January 25th.[2] 2012 is an exciting year for openSUSE. Have a lot of fun! The openSUSE Board [1] http://www.suse.com/company/press/2012/1/suse-announces-first-annual-enterp… [2] http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] RFC - opensuse steering committee ?
by Per Jessen 16 Jan '12

16 Jan '12

Apologies for the continued abuse of a much abused acronym, but a recent long-winded debate on opensuse-factory made me think that perhaps the opensuse project could do with a steering committee? I have not thought much about it, I would appreciate any and all opinions. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (1.1°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Today's project meeting minutes
by Robert Schweikert 11 Jan '12

11 Jan '12

(02:56:38 PM) bugbot: Meeting ended Wed Jan 11 19:56:38 2012 UTC. The log and minutes are available from: (v 0.1.4) (02:56:38 PM) bugbot: Minutes: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2012/opensuse-proje… (02:56:38 PM) bugbot: Minutes (text): http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2012/opensuse-proje… (02:56:38 PM) bugbot: Log: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2012/opensuse-proje… -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Taking care of #opensuse-es
by Javier Llorente 11 Jan '12

11 Jan '12

Hello everyone! Unfortunately, nobody has been taking care of the #opensuse-es IRC channel in Freenode for a long time. Ask ChanServ for info ;-) I propose giving the appropriate OP rights to an openSUSE channel maintainer in general (perhaps darix?) so that this kind of situation doesn't happen again, plus three or four long time contributors/active #opensuse-es users, such as: karlggest (long time contributor, he isn't always online, already forum moderator) SkavenXXI (long time contributor, always online in #opensuse-es) davmont (long time contributor, already forum moderator) javier (me, long time contributor, always online in #opensuse-es) Greetings, -- Javier Llorente

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[opensuse-project] Augsberger Linux-Infotag CFP
by Bryen M Yunashko 10 Jan '12

10 Jan '12

In case anyone hasn't noticed, the Augsburger Linux-Infotag event has a CFP deadline for January 22nd. If anyone is planning to go or would like to set up some booth there, please make arrangements and let the Ambassador team know what you have planned. http://www.luga.de/Aktionen/LIT-2012/CfP Thanks! Bryen M Yunaashko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Social coordination for FOSDEM
by Pascal Bleser 10 Jan '12

10 Jan '12

So, FOSDEM 2012 is almost there, and I know that quite a bunch of people from openSUSE will be there. I'd propose to collect and sort of coordinate everyone or at least chunks of people to * exchange some phone numbers (if wanted) * propose and organize some place to meet and eat and drink on Friday and/or Saturday evening So if anyone is interested in joining, please send me an email (off-list, no need to spam everyone beyond this email). I'll collect names and email addresses, will quickly create a short-lived mailing-list @fosdem.org which we can use to coordinate. Please also mention if you're interested in going to a restaurant+bar on Friday evening and/or Saturday evening, in order for me to know how many people we'd be and where to make a reservation. Alternatively, we could also have a page on the wiki, but that wouldn't quite be as appropriate to broadcast some private phone numbers :) cheers -- Pascal Bleser <loki(a)fosdem.org> http://fosdem.org/ FOSDEM 2012 ::: 4 + 5 February 2012 in Brussels, Belgium Free and Opensource Software Developers European Meeting

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[opensuse-project] Linux' Who's Who Database
by Swapnil Bhartiya 10 Jan '12

10 Jan '12

Dear openSUSE developers, We have been working on this project for a while and now ready to take it online. Here we need your help. MuktBase is an extensive and free database of Linux and Open Source/Free Software companies, people, projects and products. Muktbase People is a comprehensive directory of people [executives, founders, developers and advocates] from the Linux and Open Source/Free Software. If you are an active member of the open source world, you should be listed here for the benefit of the open source world. If you want to be listed in the Muktbase, please fill the following form. Only qualified people will be listed in Muktbase. http://www.muktware.com/3184/muktbase-people-form Best Swapnil Bhartiya Editor Muktware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 18:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 10 Jan '12

10 Jan '12

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 18:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=11&month=1&year=2012&h… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [boosters] Standup 2012-01-09
by Henne Vogelsang 09 Jan '12

09 Jan '12

Hey Peepz, these are the standup meeting minutes from the boosters team. We meet always on Monday to discuss and tell each other what we did, what we are planing to do and what is blocking us from doing things. Enjoy! General ------- * FOSDEM There are still 9 hours left on the schedule. Submit your talk if you want to go to fosdem! Hotel and Travel will be decided based on the amount of talks in the program. Standup ------- * Tom ** openstack packaging (python fixes) new package openstack-setup package which includes a setup script. ** re-creating the appliance based on the setup script. ** nothing * Christopher ** VCS checkout packages ** VCS checkout packaging for other distributions ** vacation * Vincent ** nothing ** VCS checkout packaging ** GNOME on Factory. Ismail ** Pushing python dependencies to Factory ** pushing openstack packages o Factory ** vacation Nanuk ** nothing ** nothing ** trainee server updates, whiteboard for connect. Pavol ** Pushing openstack packages to factory. ** Investiage rabbitmq update ** work on the osc12 conference proposal for prague Michal ** Finished the appliance. Blogged about it. ** Started on the appliance based on the setup script. ** nothing Max ** bug triaging ** bug triaging ** nothing Will ** nothing ** nothing ** KDE updates in Factory. Vacation. Fosdem Talk Proposal. Freitag ** nothing ** nothing ** Vacation Coolo ** nothing ** nothing ** Vacation Henne ** nothing ** Get test cloud running (again). Test the appliance. ** Vacation Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE http://www.hennevogel.de Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Signing repos
by Administrator 07 Jan '12

07 Jan '12

Hi openSUSE people, I'm not an openSUSE member (I don't do software development any more) but would like to get fixed a serious security flaw: there is no way to check the validity of a repository / build signing key. [You are welcome to correct me if I'm wrong - I'd love to know how to check this] I would suggest that, as a minimum, signing / build keys for main repos associated with openSUSE are signed by a main openSUSE key after (in some fashion) the requester's identity is verified. We can then (individually) decide to trust that signing process (and hence the signatures) or not. There would have to be a clear statement of both the identity verification process and also the full extent of the assurance this signature gives. I would suggest there should also be some kind of quality threshold (e.g. bug fix statistics) as well as a method to revoke the key / signature. Or, does one of the openSUSE security experts have a better simple suggestion? What would I need to do to effect this change? Any advice or comment is very welcome, Yours David Hodgson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [boosters] Work Report - Max Lin - Week 52
by Max Lin 03 Jan '12

03 Jan '12

[Red] [Amber] [Green] * openSUSE/KDE Bug triage/fixing * Code tracing * Do some work for Performance Review -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Re: [opensuse-project] stupid 12.1
by Albert 02 Jan '12

02 Jan '12

>>>> 2. When I switch to gnome2-like environment, I am getting very angry. >>>> How can SUSE become as stupid as Ubuntu? The gnome2-like environment is >>>> almost the same as Ubuntu..... The menu, the task bar color and so on. >>>> Why can't SUSE keep its own uniques? The SUSE menu in 10.0 till 11.4 is >>>> quit nice and creative. Why did this 12.1 switch to stupid Ubuntu like >>>> style? >>> This has nothing to do with Ubuntu: the default look and feel of the >>> fallback mode has been created so that it is close to GNOME Shell. >>> >>> We discussed if, for openSUSE, we wanted to keep that upstream decision, >>> or choose to offer something closer to what we had before. And because >>> we want to encourage people to use GNOME Shell, we decided to keep >>> things this way. > > Why do you encourage people to use GNOME SHELL? Is it more convenient or more beautiful to use it? At present, I found no reasons to switch to it. It is far behind GNOME2.X. As a Linux user and a professional design purpose user, I care more about the STABILITY and friendly interface. To me, the GNOME SHELL is much more suitable for tablet and entertainment, but not for ordinary daily work such as: office or computational work. >> >> > > >>>> 3. What's worse. The workspace switcher in gnome2-like environment is >>>> the same as 10.0 version: when we use "only show current workspace", it >>>> can only show ONE workspace, and others are all gone...... >>> I just started the livecd to check, and things are fine here. Can you >>> open the preferences of the workspace switcher, and tell us if you see >>> this because there's only one workspace, or because the "only show >>> current workspace" setting is set? Is this on a brand new install, on >>> first login? > > I update 12.1 to the latest version by command: zypper update after installation. And the problem is always there. >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Vincent >>> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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