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[opensuse-project] Greek openSUSE community, Our first meeting
by Kostas Koudaras 28 Nov '10

28 Nov '10

Yesterday the Greek openSUSE community had it's first meeting. The purpose of this meeting was all of those who are interesting on participate to decide the next steps of our community together. Me(Warlordfff) and Stathis(Diamond_gr) had no experience on how to organize such a meeting so we made a lot of mistakes,had many difficulties and many things went wrong but finally we managed to make some decisions about certain points and we decided to have another meeting exclusively at IRC this time,sometime next weekend. The topics we talked was: Official translation of 11.4 and the creation of a translators team about it. Two members showed interest about it: Kostas Boukouvalas (who is already a openSUSE translator) Michael Vourlakos Kostas Boukouvalas has created a wiki page about the translation (http://el.opensuse.org/%CE%92%CE%BF%CE%AE%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%B1:%CE%9C%CE… ) Forum: Creation of a Greek Section at http://forums.opensuse.org. The members that expressed interest about taking responsibilities on that section were: Stratos Zolotas (Baskinsy) Stathis Iosifidis (Diamond_gr) Kostas Koudaras (warlordfff) Kostas Boukouvalas (Boukouvalas) George (Etern4l) Wiki:We decided all members to contribute by translating parts of the wiki in Greek.Also there was a suggestion about organizing a mini hackfest for the translation of our wiki. LI-F-E: We talked about making a Greek division of LI-F-E incorporating the packages of the Greek ministry of education. OBS:We decided to form a team about OBS,the team will take some packages for maintenance and Support,also to create packages that are not available for openSUSE (such packages are the packages of the Greek ministry of education that we need so that we create our LI-F-E division) Finally we decided to process all that in our mailing list the whole week and talk about all that and more at our next meeting. Kostas "Warlordfff" Koudaras -- http://opensuse.gr http://amb.opensuse.gr http://warlordfff.tk me I am not me ------- Time travel is possible, you just need to know the right aliens I gave exams for God , but I failed in miracles -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] How to announce team meetings?
by Andreas Jaeger 25 Nov '10

25 Nov '10

I see different teams announce their team meetings in different ways and suggest to discuss how to do it the best way - and document it. Here's one proposal for this: == Announcing Team Meetings == * Create a meeting page in the wiki to collect the agenda * Add the meeting to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Meetings * Get the meeting in the calendar on news.o.o - this way the openSUSE Weekly News Team will add it to their calendar * Announce it via opensuse-announce(a)opensuse.org and news.o.o. for the first meeting or for special meetings * Announce it on your team mailing list * Good practice: Announce a preliminary agenda with topics for the meeting and not only that it will take place Right now we have both the wiki calendar in the meetings portal and the news.o.o calendar, I propose to remove the wiki calendar and point to news.o.o. Thoughts on this? Btw. - I would add the result of our discussion to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Meetings, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj(a){novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-project] Where do we need to improve?
by Rupert Horstkötter 23 Nov '10

23 Nov '10

Community, during our bi-weekly Board Meetings on IRC we have a regular agenda topic “Where do we need to improve?”. We’re very much interested in ideas you may have to improve the inner workings of the Community/Project and we also like to provide an opportunity to step up and make us aware of complaints you may have with various aspects of the Community/Project. We’re particular interested in addressing those issues that are both fast and easy to fix while providing a significant advantage to our success and the sake of our community. That said, we feel that stepping up during an IRC session alone 1. may require too much spontaneous engagement, 2. doesn’t provide a sufficient opportunity to brainstorm in advance and 3. doesn’t provide an opportunity to preselect feature request and/or complaints by popularity/importance. As a result, we assume that we aren’t able to use this agenda topic to its full potential as a Community yet, both from a reporting and resolving perspective. Thus, we decided to start over and utilize openFATE [1] as a companion to the already established agenda topic in order to address the drawbacks of the current process. We herewith like to ask you to create feature requests and/or complaints within openFATE, select the product “openSUSE.org”, discuss them in advance and we, the openSUSE Board, will have a look at those and get more input while providing more output in less time that way. Hope you like it! Please keep in mind that we’re looking for feature requests and/or complaints which we’re able to resolve both fast and easy either during an IRC session or at least in two weeks between meetings, i.e. a request to achieve world domination doesn’t fit very well here. Best, your openSUSE Board [1] https://features.opensuse.org/ -- Rupert Horstkötter open-slx Community Manager openSUSE Board Member http://open-slx.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] long term support status
by Wolfgang Rosenauer 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

Hi, probably I'm missing something but anyone knows a current status on the "LTS" effort? I checked the wiki which was set up last year but there is nothing new apparently. Is this the right list to discuss that again or is a better/specific one somewhere else? Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE 11.3 DVD Coverart
by Sankar P 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

Hi, I would like to make some openSUSE DVDs myself and distribute them for some training related activities. Is there a way I can get the cover art used for the 11.3 promo DVDs (joyous people jumping) ? Thanks. -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Attachmate is acquiring Novell
by Andreas Jaeger 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

FYI, Attachmate is acquiring Novell: http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate- corporation/ From the announcement "Attachmate Corporation plans to operate Novell as two business units: Novell and SUSE;" I have no news yet on what this means for openSUSE besides the above line. We'll keep you informed as soon as we hear more... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj(a){novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Zombie bugzilla entries
by Jiri Slaby 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

Hi, recently, I've been crawling through open bugzilla entries and found out few which are being years unattended. I investigated further and there are few problems tightly connected to that. 1) There are open bncs against no longer maintained releases. 10.2+10.3+11.0 reported bugs count is 803 now. These reports are years old and doesn't fit to the current codebase and hence should be mostly closed. This obviously won't help anything since there will accumulate similarly useless (from the code perspective) reports after some time again. A solution is to close these automatically right after the product which they are reported against become unmaintained. The ones which still can be reproduced in later releases would be reopened manually by reporters. This is how fedora bugs are handled. 2) Assigned entries, even though they are P1, even though there are patches with fixes attached, are not taken care of. There is 1572 of all opensuse bugs which are left for more than 400 days without any attention. Many of them are not even reassigned to proper maintainers. Both of these poblems currently suck, because reporters are noticed after 3 years that we close their report without bothering to reply them in any way. Any ideas how to improve these bugzilla stats? Does the proposed "solution" sound OK? thanks, -- js suse labs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] IRC cloaking for opensuse members
by Togan Muftuoglu 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

Hi, If my eyesight is still OK,I can't seem to find any info regarding IRC nickname editing in the user profile page (https://users.opensuse.org/my/profile) Does anyone know whom to contact for the opensuse cloaking of IRC nickname. Thanks Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Some additional comments, thoughts and questions about openFATE screening
by Satoru Matsumoto 19 Nov '10

19 Nov '10

After yesterday's openFATE screening team IRC meeting, I've overviewed recently requested features (via new instance) and got some additional impressions and questions which should be shared and further discussed. # You can read the mention below on http://openfate.titanpad.com/notes # as well. ;-) * Users can now request features for 'SUSE Gallary' and 'SUSE Studio Online (Hosted Service)' as well. As a part of openSUSE project, should screening team be responsible to features for 'SUSE Gallary' and 'SUSE Studio Online (Hosted Service)'? * Tags listed on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Openfate_screening#Tags are mostly appropriate for the features for the product "openSUSE 11.4", but not suitable for which for other products such as Buildservice, Package Wishlist, openFATE ... Do we need to prepare some more additional primary tags, or, tag them as "misc" anyway? * There's a newly requested feature "Include Pacman and VLC repos in OBS" https://features.opensuse.org/preview/310793 As Rémy has commented there, this feature cannot be realized due to legal issue. In such a case, may I move the status from "unconfirmed" to "rejected"? * Look at this feature: "Please add Python Turbogears to OBS" https://features.opensuse.org/preview/310794 I think this is a kind of 'Package Wishlist'. But in this case, a user has already built the package in his home project. Can I move the status from "unconfirmed" to "done"? Or, should I ask the requester "Do you want the software to be included in standard repository?" * The term "Customer benefit" evokes "Novell-Costomer" relationship. As a FLOSS community, we openSUSE don't have customers but users. Therefore I think it should be "User benefit". * In case the request is something like "openSUSE adopts A as default now. Let's replace A with B and set B as default!", it might be difficult to decide whether we should adopt the request or not. # You may remember the endless flame war "Default DE - KDE vs GNOME" See for example: "Include Unity as alternative GNOME GUI" https://features.opensuse.org/preview/310804 It is tagged as 'gnome' now, but I don't think GNOME people will accept including Unity *as alternative GNOME GUI*. :-P 1) Let's replace A with B and set B as default! 2) Let's add B in addition to A so that users can easily take their choice! I think 1 and 2 have very different meanings. But sometimes it is very vague whether a feature request says 1 or 2. So the question is, how should we navigate such kind of requests? * It takes thousands of man-hours to verify each feature request whether it is duplicated or already done. :-( We definitely need a solution for this problem. Best, -- _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing/Weekly News/openFATE Screening Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds_at_gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.zaq.ne.jp/opensuse/ _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2011 / Chemnitz Linux Days 2011
by Ronald Schmidt 18 Nov '10

18 Nov '10

Hallo openSUSE-Team, (english version below) voller Vorfreude dürfen wir bekannt geben, dass die Chemnitzer Linux-Tage[1] auch im Jahr 2011 wieder stattfinden. Die Linux-Tage in Chemnitz sind Deutschlands größte nicht kommerziell organisierte Veranstaltung rund um Linux und Freie Software. Die zweitägige Veranstaltung beinhaltet ein umfangreiches Vortragsprogramm und eine Ausstellung. So werden in etwa 90 Vorträgen Grundlagen, Projekte, Arbeiten und Erkenntnisse rund um das Thema Linux vorgestellt. Auf der Ausstellungsfläche bieten wir 60 Projekten die Möglichkeit, sich einem großen Publikum zu präsentieren - Stand, Strom, Internet und Poster inklusive. Im Jahr 2010 erlebten 2600 Besucher unsere Veranstaltung und waren, wie in den Vorjahren, begeistert. Zahlreiche Fotos und Blog-Einträge erzählen davon[2]. Die Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2011 finden am 19. und 20. März statt und stehen unter dem Motto "Freiheit leben". Mit dieser Mail möchten wir auf den Call for Lectures[3] und den Call for Presentations[4] hinweisen. Wenn Ihr Euer Projekt bei den Chemnitzer Linux-Tagen präsentieren möchtet, meldet Euch bitte rechtzeitig mit einer aussagekräftigen Beschreibung an. Alle Referenten, Aussteller und Helfer erhalten unser kostenloses und legendäres Rundum-Sorglos-Paket mit Vollverpflegung, Eintritt sowie der Teilnahme an der Abendveranstaltung am Eröffnungstag. Sollte es noch offene Fragen geben, zögert nicht, Euch zum Thema Ausstellung an live(a)linux-tage.de oder zum Thema Vorträge an vortraege(a)linux-tage.de zu wenden. Viele Grüße aus Chemnitz [1] http://www.linux-tage.de/ [2] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2010/info/bilder.html [3] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2011/vortraege/call_form [4] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2011/live/call_form ------------------------- english version ---------------------------- Dear openSUSE team, We are happy to announce to you the 13th Chemnitz' Linux Days[1] in March, 2011. Linux Days are the most popular uncommercially organised event regarding Linux and open source software in Germany. The two-day event offers a wide lecture programme with just about 90 lectures about basics, projects, workings, and findings. Furthermore, we provide an exhibition space to present a lot of projects to the public. As in previous years, more than 2.500 visitors were greatly impressed by the event in 2010. Pictures and blog entries give an impression[2]. Chemnitz' Linux Days 2011, themed "Living Freedom", take place on March 19 and 20, 2011. The Call for Lectures[3] and the Call for Presentations[4] have already started. If you would like to showcase your project as well, please sign up yourself and do not forget to enter a convincing description. All speakers, exhibitors and helpers get free entry, full board, and a free ticket for the evening event on saturday. In case of open queries, please do not hesitate to contact live(a)linux-tage.de related to the exhibition or vortraege(a)linux-tage.de related to lectures and workshops. Kind regards from Chemnitz [1] http://www.linux-tage.de/ [2] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2010/info/bilder.html [3] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2011/vortraege/call_form [4] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2011/live/call_form

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