February 2012 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] talk at or visit Linux Open Administration Days
by Jos Poortvliet 12 Apr '12

12 Apr '12

Hi all, April 16-17 in Antwerp, Belgium, the Linux Open Administration Days will take place. This free event offers a chance for LPI certification as well as meeting and talking to linux sysadmins. There is a call for presentations here: http://www.loadays.org/content/call-presentations If you want to go and give a talk there about openSUSE tech - that's be awesome. If you can't afford to go there due to travel or hotel costs, let me know, we might be able to work something out ;-) cheers, Jos

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE and KDE in COSCUP Taiwan
by Max 03 Apr '12

03 Apr '12

Dear ALL: I am Max from Taiwan -- openSUSE ambassador and GNOME foundaion member too. ^__^ It's midnight in Taiwan. But I really happy to say "openSUSE and KDE will have one track( 2 days - 14 slot Presentations) at 18 - 19 Aug 2012 in COSCUP Taiwan" (I am sorry, I just make sure the date and slot today) What is COSCUP? http://coscup.org/2011/en/ COSCUP is the largest annual FLOSS conference organized by local communities in Taiwan. The conference has sessions for new users, enthusiastic promoters, coders or anyone who is interested in cutting-edge FLOSS technologies. The goal is to create a friendly and informative environment for people from different communities to make friends, learn new technologies and inspire each other. Open source software is supported by 3 groups: coders, users and promoters. This conference is aimed at all three groups. No matter whether you are a new user, a passionate promoter, mature developer or anywhere in between, you are welcome at COSCUP, the Conference for Open Source Coders, Users and Promoters! for COSCUP | GNOME.Asia 2010 and COSCUP 2011 there are 1,000 people together. ^__^ This Year (2012) openSUSE and KDE will get involved with COSCUP. We will have one individual track with 2 days. (About 14 presentaions) Date: 18-19 Aug, 2012 Country: Asia -- Taiwan We will have both booth and Conference in COSCUP 2012. We need your participate^^. For some good | interesting topic with openSUSE ( Yes, we will send call for paper as soon as possible <(_ _)> ) For booth -- We need your help. For anything else..... good to openSUSE Best regards sakana -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Evergreen release planning
by Wolfgang Rosenauer 13 Mar '12

13 Mar '12

Hi, within the Evergreen project http://en.opensuse.org/Evergreen we are planning to designate openSUSE 11.4 as the next Evergreen supported release. There are several reasons why 11.4 is a good candidate in our opinion and it even was my proposal in the beginning of Evergreen. Still we would like to hear your opinions and we actually are also looking for contributors to make the next Evergreen a success. The previous Evergreen releases 11.1 and 11.2 still had a "kind of experimental" flag and not many people working on it. I've created a simple poll here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGpHRW5XVjJSbGpoakk5UU… Please only submit if you care about Evergreen as a user or contributor. Everyone interested is also invited to join the mailinglist as described in the wiki page. And yes, in case Evergreen takes off (according to your feedback) with next release the existing list will be moved to openSUSE infrastructure. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] asking for GSoC vouch
by Peter Czanik 08 Mar '12

08 Mar '12

Hello, I'm Peter Czanik from syslog-ng upstream, openSUSE syslog-ng maintainer. This year we are also planing to join GSoC. As new to GSoC, we need somebody to vouch for us: "Are you a new organization who has a Googler or other organization to vouch for you? If so, please list their name(s) here." (http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/fa…) Could you help us with this? Bye, -- Peter Czanik (CzP)<czanik(a)balabit.hu> BalaBit IT Security / syslog-ng upstream http://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Membership part II
by Robert Schweikert 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

Previously we discussed a proposal (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2012-01/msg00381.html) about a potential for membership lapse. A summary of this discussion can be found on the wiki, http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Membership_lapse_summary Based on this summary and the last project meeting, see minutes http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2012-02/msg00064.html, I am putting forth the proposal below for further discussion, if further discussion is necessary. This, or a refined proposal will be presented for a vote to project members for acceptance at some point in the, hopefully, near future. We agreed on soliciting a vote in the last project meeting. To recap, the goal driving this initiative is to provide a more equitable level between becoming a member and being a member, with focus on contributions. In order to become a member one has to contribute to the project and upon completing the membership application show these contributions to be verified by the membership committee. As always, please focus on the topic at hand, avoid rants, and be kind. Proposal: ======= At a time 4 month' prior to a member's even number year anniversary (that would be year 2, 4, 6...) attempts will be made to contact the member via the known e-mail address. Initial contact attempts will be automated to reduce work for the membership committee. The automated e-mail will contain a link to a web page that enables the member to check areas of contributions to the project. Submission of the form results in automatic membership "renewal" until the next even number anniversary of the member. Should the automated e-mail bounce 2 more automated attempts will be made to contact the member within 3 weeks of the initial automated e-mail. Should these automated attempts fail a member of the membership committee will make an attempt to locate the member via ML messages, IRC, and possibly other means such as social media. This is a best effort attempt to contact the member. Should the automated e-mail arrive (not bounce) but the web form should not get submitted, 2 more automated attempts will be made to contact the member within 3 weeks of the initial automated e-mail. Should these automated attempts fail a member of the membership committee will make an attempt to contact the member with a personal e-mail message or locate the member in IRC, Connect or other media. The member will be requested to submit the web form. This is a best effort attempt to contact the member. In the event that a member cannot be contacted in the 4 month time frame or a member is no longer contributing to the project the member will become an Honorary member. Honorary members retain their @opensuse e-mail address. However, honorary members may no longer participate in any voting activities that are open only to members. Resuming contributions to the project at any time will provide an honorary member with the opportunity to request reinstatement as a member to resume vote participation. ===== In conjunction with this proposal, I propose that we implement infrastructure such that initial contribution verification is simplified and ongoing contribution recognition is possible, see FATE 313229 https://features.opensuse.org/313229. This infrastructure would eliminate the need for contributing members to visit a web page to mark their contributions and membership "renewal" would take place automatically. In addition this infrastructure will reduce the tedious work the membership team completes today and thus will improve the processing speed of new membership applications. This proposal also requires the implementation of some basic infrastructure, or will put a good chunk of work onto the membership committee. Last but not least, please keep in mind that this is about contributions. Yes, voting is effected, but should not be the center of the discussion. Basically it is expected that members are interested in voting. If a large percentage of members do not vote this, in and of itself sends a clear message that there's something going on with the project. Thus, we do not need to discuss the "what if I don't want to vote..." or "voting should be mandatory..." arguments we have heard previously. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] loadays
by Peter Czanik 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

Hello, I wonder, if anybody visited loadays ( http://loadays.org ) last year. What were your experiences? It's on my list of Linux admin focused conferences, where I could present syslog-ng. And could also help a few hours, if there is an openSUSE booth. CFP ends tomorrow ( http://www.loadays.org/content/cfp-load12 ). Bye, CzP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Membership - Part n (and hopefully the last part?)
by Basil Chupin 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

I have tried to follow this thread started by Robert (for what reason is still beyond me, but nevertheless....). It had reached the stage of sheer boredom a while back in attempting to read posts in that "Membership" thread. Just before I started typing this message there were 84 posts concerning this "Membership" nonsense - and there is nothing else to call it but "nonsense". We are using Linux because we do not want to have other, monopolistic, anti freedom-to-choose-our-operating-systems entities shoving down our throats what systems we must use. We belong to a group of free spirits who refuse to be dictated to by monopolies and are users of one of many LINUX based systems. And openSUSE is just *ONE* of such systems. There is nothing extraordinary about openSUSE - at least not anymore. It was when I first started to use it back in the 1990's but no more. Nostalgia and the belief in the future of openSUSE is what keeps, at least some of us, continuing to use openSUSE. But forget about the nostalgia. Just don't destroy the BELIEF. If you want to keep flogging this dead horse of an idea of "Membership" then it should focus of membership of a *LINUX* fraternity and not this silly notion of being a "member" of openSUSE - which is now owned by Attachmate, previously owned by Novell, previously owned by the creators of S.u.S.E.. Who is going to own openSUSE once Attachmate is offered more money to own openSUSE? Why did Attachmate decide to retain the name "openSUSE"? What would be the case if the new owners decided to call it "Attachmate Linux" (or similar)? We are members of a group of people who use and love and respect and contribute to in one way or another to *LINUX* and *FOSS*. I'll stop here because I know that you have the intelligence to realise in which direction any deliberations, policy, and effort should directed. BC -- I'd rather live one more day as a wolf than an entire life as a lamb. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Boosters Sprint Meeting 2012-02-27
by Thomas Schmidt 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

Present: vincent, aj, wstephenson, henne, cwh, ismail, coolo, mrusecky, prusnak, nkrinner Missing: rlihm (vacation), maxli ------------------------------------------------------------------------ General Topics: - Henne can't type (fully back next monday) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Status Reports: Michal: Done: KDE release party prague, mysql changes for factory and 12.2, talked to fedora people about appstream: plan is to to improve the software-center on opensuse and then send to fedora-project Plan: blog about the party, work through mysql bugreports Pavol: Done: software-center package (not fully working) in his home project, only one dependency missing in factory Cwh: Done: Local debshot instance, trying to feed with opensuse filelist, problems with uploading screenshots, difficult to contact upstream developers, seeking help with python framework Plan: Continue with debshots Vincent: Finished distromatch script to export from opensuse, adrian wants to integrate that into obs >2.3, factory work Will: Done: Talked to apper upstream, board meeting on wednesday, kde issues Tom: Done: Holiday in France Plan: Talk to Michael about missing package data in the obs api, create proposal for the appdata enhanced software.o.o page Ismail: Done: Vacation for the last 2 weeks Plan: Pick something from trello, probably apper related Coolo: Done: Hacking perl for creating appdata.xml, already published in the projects factory repositories, no integration with the software stack yet Plan: talk to duncan about libzypp integration of appstream data Henne: Done: Got bionic enhancements into his hand Nanuk: Done: learning for exams Plan: doing boosters work for one more month! -- Thomas Schmidt (tom [at] opensuse.org) openSUSE Boosters Team "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (11.03.1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Good bye Marco Michna [daemon]
by Bruno Friedmann 26 Feb '12

26 Feb '12

I just learn today that our beloved fellow Marco Michna (aka [daemon]) pass away Thursday. He will miss us for sure. I already made a small post about it on my G+ profile, and I'm asking here if some good writers, can write few words about him. http://news.opensuse.org/2008/03/28/people-of-opensuse-marco-michna/ https://plus.google.com/u/0/109140068131989370067/posts irc : before quitting with message "Read error: Connection reset by peer" at Wed Feb 22 18:45:31 GMT 2012. Death notice from his company in newspaper Nüremberg Narichten -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot

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Re: [opensuse-project] Membership part II
by Wolfgang Hahnl 25 Feb '12

25 Feb '12

Hello Team, I have read you discussion. There are a lot pros and cons. We have to have all this more simple. And I think I have missed something. So I have to ask some questions (Q) and will give some answers (A). These is my way of thinking: 1. Q: What are our main tasks? A1: To get openSUSE going to "create one of the world's best Linux distributions". [http://en.opensuse.org/Main_Page] A2: To get more help, to do this. [[Portal:How to participate]] A3: To get mor atractive for more peole? "It is great for beginners, experienced users and ultra geeks alike, in short, it is perfect for everybody!" [[Main Page]] 2. Q: How have we to do this? A: Contibutions from a lot of *active* poeple! 3. Q: What are the activities to get openSUSE to the future? Q1: Chating in chatrooms or on mailinglists, to chat because someone likes to chat? A1: No. It has to be an addition, but is not basic work. Q2: What are basic works? A2: Work within the different teams: On the page: Portal:Teams I count 42 teams (plus local groups) Q3: Can we get a short overview about the contributions of the named contributors? A3: Yes, but it needs some time. 4. Q: Are there any rules to get a member? A: 1. You have to contribute to get openSUSE going. It is the entrance fee. 2. There are additional rules und you have to accept this rules. 3. If you ask for membership, you accept this rules und have paid your fee. 4. It have to be an honor, to get a membership! 5. Q: What are the hurdels? They are low? How low? Q1: One to X contributions per year? Q2: One to X contributions per month, to average? Q3: One to X contributions per week, to average? Q4: One to X contributions per day, to average? A1: It has to be the entrance fee!!! The hurdle hase to be decided and published. 6. Q: When does the membership ends? A: If you don't pay your fee in the predetermined level, over a predetermined time and if you don't accept the rules any more! I think clear rules like this have to be descibed. Best regards Slughorn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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