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[opensuse-project] Prerelease Torrent files (not ISOs) for openSUSE11.1?
by Clayton 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

This is an extension of a tread I started over on the openSUSE user list. When 11.0 was released, the openSUSE servers staggered a bit under the load of so many people hammering away trying to either grab the torrent files or download via ftp. The result was that a large number of us (myself included) waited several days before we were even able to get near the website so that we could download the torrent files and get started with downloading/seeding. So, my proposal is.... pre-release the Torrent files. Pre-release ONLY the Torrent files so that those of us who will be Torrenting openSUSE 11.1 can set up our Torrent clients and be ready to go when 11.1 is released and the Torrent tracker is switched "on". The advantage is that we will not need to join the queue waiting for the website to respond, and we will be able to start helping with distributing this release immediately. Thoughts? Comments? Is this possible? Reasonable? C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Weekly News - call for contributors
by Rupert Horstkötter 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

Community, this is a call for volunteers. Thanks to your awesome help, the openSUSE Weekly Newsletter Team currently provides the Weekly News in 9 languages (including English) to the openSUSE community. To be able to further enhance the quality of our current offering, the openSUSE Weekly Newsletter Team always welcomes contributors. What we especially need: 1. We did an investigation last week and we are looking for Italian, French and Chinese translators. These three languages with a significant user percentage of openSUSE installations are not supported by the Weekly Newsletter yet. 2. To strengthen our current translation teams we are always looking for translators for currently supported languages, namely German, Indonesian, Japanese, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish and Swedish. 3. As you hopefully already noticed we provide a dedicated openSUSE Forums section with hot topics and asserted threads as of the Weekly News issue #49 to the openSUSE community. This is an area, where we are also in desperate need of contributors - this is especially interesting for community members highly involved in the forums already. If you are interested to participate in one of these areas, you are very welcome to join the team. Please contact either Jan-Simon Möller - jansimon.moeller/at/opensuse.org or Rupert Horstkötter - rhorstkoetter/at/opensuse.org for further information. Any help is much appreciated and we are looking forward to your responses. Best, Rupert -- Rupert Horstkötter, openSUSE community Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Phoronix Intel Atom Benchmark Article
by Rob OpenSuSE 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

Intel Atom On Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSuSE, Mandriva http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_atom_four&num=1 "For our testing this time around we used a Jetway NC92 IPC motherboard. This mini ITX motherboard uses the Intel 945GC Chipset with ICH7 Southbridge and it comes with an Atom 230 1.6GHz processor. This motherboard uses standard DDR2 and it offers a single PCI slot. In addition to that, we also used a 300GB Seagate ST3300622AS SATA HDD, 2GB of DDR2 memory, and the Intel 945 graphics were driving a 1680 x 1050 LCD display." Basically 11.1-RC1 was the slowest in almost all the tests, sometimes by a very long way, that'll be significant to end users. Is 11.1 likely to make a large difference? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Advanced Search in software.opensuse.org
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

Hello, i don't know, if this list is the right. If not, then say it to me :-) In my work for the openSUSE Weekly News, i use often the software.opensuse.org/search - Interface. But often i must search for an specific Version from an Package. Is it possible to create an Advanced Search for this Interface? -- Sincereley yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Marketing Team (Weekly News) Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Blog: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/saigkill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-project] openSUSE 11.2 schedule
by awafaa＠opensuse.org 15 Dec '08

15 Dec '08

Hopefully we (the GNOME Team) can ensure that we have a solid and working build of the latest and greatest from the land of GNOME, which should be able to bridge any gap that may occur with release cycles. Having a release skip a DE isn't necessarily a bad thing, although I'm sure some will disagree quite vicifoursly. As long as both the KDE and GNOME teams have a well defined plan we can show the outside (and inside) world how we intend on improving things without having the latest release in the distro. The fact that we will have it available as a backport, with full support from the respective communities, is a major step forward - yes the KDE team have led the way here ;-) Regards, Andy P.S. Sorry for the top post, silly mobile client. -- Andrew Wafaa, openSUSE Member: GNOME / Marketing. openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org awafaa(a)opensuse.org | http://www.wafaa.eu -----Original Message----- From: Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier Sent: 15/12/2008 14:57:23 To: Michael Loeffler Cc: opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE 11.2 schedule On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com> wrote: > > But it has its downside as well. Finalization of the release would > happen during the summer holiday season. To address this we we added > one Beta to stretch the development time a bit. As others have said - I have some reservations about releasing in September and just missing a GNOME release. I know that syncs badly with the conference, but I think GNOME is important enough to go ahead and wait for it. Why have such a lengthy release cycle and then just miss GNOME? Also, given that people start testing heavily with RCs, it might be better to have an additional RC rather than an additional beta. Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier openSUSE Community Manager jzb(a)zonker.net http://zonker.opensuse.org/ http://blogs.zdnet.com/community/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Does/is openSUSE giving out openSUSE 11.1 boxes and T-shrits for beta testers?
by Adam Jimerson 14 Dec '08

14 Dec '08

Hi The other day I got an email from a member of the SUSE Beta team, had a suse.de email address but don't remember the first part nor the name, saying that for helping beta test openSUSE 11.1 I could get a free box version of openSUSE 11.1 and a T-shirt I just needed to give my shipping address. Before I could reply to the email my mail client crashed and ate the email, if this is a real offer I would loved to accept it I just need to know who to get in touch with I tried sending an email to the board about this but no reply as of yet. Thanks for the help Adam Jimerson -- "We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure." Karl Popper

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[opensuse-project] Need for mails announcing devel stuff
by Vincent Untz 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

Hi, Every now and then, on IRC (well, at least on #opensuse-gnome), there's a question like "what's the deadline to get packages in this beta" or "are we feature frozen" or "should we submit to openSUSE:11.1 instead of openSUSE:Factory". I'm nearly sure answers to all those questions are obvious to some people and/or are documented somewhere on the wiki. But the fact is that it's not obvious to a bunch of people. I'd like to see mails sent for all of this stuff, possibly to a new mailing list (opensuse-devel-announce, which would be for announcements for people following the development of openSUSE). Eg, sending a reminder that the deadline for submitting packages for the next beta is at the end of the week, or explaining that 11.1 was branched and updates for 11.1 should be handled this way or this other way. Or announcing that we're freezing upstream versions. Stuff like that. (fwiw, this proposal is based on what is done upstream by GNOME, and it has helped improve our life in the GNOME community) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] project dependencies
by Susanne Oberhauser 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

Hi folks, I was just bitten again by project dependencies: openSUSE:Tools depends on ruby to get more current packages than what we had on sle10. I don't want to copy in the packages fromt heruby project and I don't want to sourcelink them. I instead want the ruby project to 'know' that there are other projects depending on it, so they get a message if they try to disable the sle10 project repo. And what I actually want is to design and document a best practice how projetcs should interact in the software integration process, how project releases are done, so you can rely on another project without copying or linking it's base packages in. S. -- Susanne Oberhauser +49-911-74053-574 SUSE -- a Novell Business OPS Engineering Maxfeldstraße 5 Processes and Infrastructure Nürnberg SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/12/4)
by Rodrigo Moya 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

Promotion of GNOME within 11.1 context: - Need someone to write sneak peek article on GNOME for 11.1 (http://en.opensuse.org/Sneak_Peeks ) - People should help out with support in #suse AI: captain_magnus to handle the compiz features article AI: metalgod to write about cool new Brasero features AI: KevinYo to create a wiki page with topics for sneak peeks articles Wiki work: - No tango icons, no wiki, since the whole mockup is tango-based Updates to live.gnome.org: - Some openSUSE-related pages created: http://live.gnome.org/Home?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=opensuse&tit… - More promotion of openSUSE inside the GNOME devel community needed - Build a GNOME upstream version of openSUSE with SuSE studio? Dropping/adding packages: - Nothing new, waiting for 11.2 - Rather than dropping, unless totally obsolete, packages should be moved out of the official repo AI: vuntz to create a wiki page with packages that could be moved out of G:F AI: vuntz to start thread on how to organize maintainership for G:C Bug triage proposal: - Should do more bug days - Add external people to bnc-team-gnome alias? AI: hobbsc and metalgod to organize a bug triage marathon State of GNOME 2.24 and future updates to openSUSE: - openSUSE 11.1 target added to G:Factory, so 2.25 should start building soon Tasks: - From now on, using bugzilla for AI's - Meeting admin work needs setting - Minutes are boring, but rodrigo always comes to rescue :-) AI: suseROCKs to review the weekly meeting agenda modification process and debunk steps wherever he can Agenda for upcoming meeting: - Release date for 11.1, so use the meeting to discuss/review lessons learnt during the 11.1 cycle - Review AIs - Status update of 2.25 in G:F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Board Meeting Minutes, Nov19
by Michael Loeffler 02 Dec '08

02 Dec '08

openSUSE Board Meeting Minutes Nov 19th, 8pm - 10:30pm CET Participants: Federico Mena Quintero (federico1) Hendrik Vogelsang (henne) Michael Löffler (michl) Bryen Yunashko (suseROCKs) Pascal Bleser (yaloki) Joe Brockmeier (zonker), for the 1 hour Advisory Board Zonker suggested to have an advisory board to enhance direct communication with sponsors. This board shouldn't be limited to sponsors ony but open to people having interest in openSUSE. This is kind of additional value for sponsor and was brought up by company which show interest to sponsor openSUSE. Discussion about pros and cons. Just for political reason, does it works, what is the benefit? Adds two-way for interaction and exchange for sponsors and people with a key role. It may add bureaucracy to the project also. At what cost does an advisory board comes? The existence of such a Board filled with nice names may add prestige, visibility and credibility to the project. openSUSE deserves some broader backing that we have today. Would this make a legal entity for openSUSE necessary? The board couldn't come to a clear yes or no. This need some more discussion and the role of an advisory needs to be described in detail. We agreed having the discussion on the board list till Friday and then move it to -project to get feedback. AI: michl to send sponsor agreement to the rest of Board members Member Approval 36 approved 14 rejected 14 need additional review to reach 3 times + or - suseRocks came up with the idea to send the reject one a friendly mail and offer kind of mentorship to show them how to become a future openSUSE member suseROCKS is willing to handle the reject mails, henne does the approval mails, we post for volunteers for a mentor program on -project Discussion of the hard ones: Does upstream contributino qualifies to become a member? For openSUSE related stuff like infrastructure (eg. OBS) yes, for software (KDE, Mono) no. But we shoudn't be "Heiliger als der Papst" (more catholic than the pope). All need to finish voting by Monday Nov 24 Action Items Membership scripting WIP by Henne, probably done by Friday this week AI: henne, post meeting logs to board wiki Thank you letter to the election committee AI: michl to write one personally to the members of the committee + public post + ping zonker on gifts Board Introductory letter AI: suseROCKs Board Blog We'd like to have our own blog. Lizards does not offer RSS feed tied to an author. Own board tag - but fear of abuse and press don't like it. We may need to set up our own wordpress on board.o.o - takes too long Why not using news.o.o? Using news.o.o found broad acceptance. We start using that an see if it works out. openSUSE conference Michl shared the information that zonker is planning an openSUSE conference in summer 2009 targeted to developers and packagers. SUSE has now for years an internal SUSELabs conference in the Czech Republic where around 100 developers gather to meet each other, exchange information, do some hacking and to have fun. The idea is to extent this event to the community. Probably it takes place in the Prague or Nuremberg area as we so make it easy for many SUSE developers to attend the conference which the conference will benefit from. Next meeting Dec 3, chaired by yaloki -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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