December 2019 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Can one manually become a "Member Emeritus"
by Stefan Seyfried 09 Aug '21

09 Aug '21

Hi all, after reading https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members, I understand that I can cancel my membership status with immediate effect and forever. To become a "Member Emeritus", with a "way back" into the community in case things might turn good again, I have to wait for the status request and just not respond to it. But the last such request was almost 3 years ago. IIUC I need to stop all actions on the mailing lists (might be a good idea ;-)) and packaging (not so good) for the bot to pick me up. So is there a manual procedure to follow to become "Member Emeritus"? Best regards, Stefan -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] huge amount of SPAM on opensuse-connect
by christian.imhorst＠posteo.de 02 Jun '21

02 Jun '21

Hi, Am Do., 21. Feb. 2019 um 15:32 Uhr schrieb Lars Vogdt <Lars.Vogdt(a)suse.com>: As such, maintaining 447 [1] openSUSE members should not depend on a single tool. Especially not if the used tool has open, well known security issues since years[2]. On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:41:19 +0100 Richard Brown wrote: > This isn't the first time I've asked this question on a public stage, > but in the hope that this time I get an answer; > Who volunteers to tackle the problem with connect.o.o and drive > forward a solution? I made my proposal already and I stand the point: shut down an insecure system! what does "drive forward a solution" mean? Can we integrate the functions of connect.o.o into other services at openSUSE which are allready maintained like the openSUSE wiki? A form for travel support for example? An application for membership could be done by e-mail to an e-mail address of the membership officials. Elections could be done with an eVote software like https://github.com/mdipierro/evote for example, but probably there are better tools. What did I miss? I think Lars is right an we should shutdown this insecure system as soon as possible. Regards Christian Imhorst -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] "Abstain" an option for future votes
by Gerald Pfeifer 22 Apr '20

22 Apr '20

On the board meeting two hours ago we discussed adding an "abstain" option to future votes. We unanimously agreed. That is, future votings shall include "abstain" as a choice. Thank you to all who provided feedback! Gerald PS: We understand board elections allow a flexible number of choices, including choosing no candidate, so we do not see this as applicable there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] NNTP gateway to forums.o@o.o
by Knurpht-openSUSE 26 Feb '20

26 Feb '20

Hi all, Since the current NNTP gateway by MicoFocus is being shutdown from Wed 19th of June, there will temporarily be none. Meanwhile some of our community members are working on replacing it, announcements about this will follow a.s.a.p. -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Board election 2019-2020 - Final candidates list
by Ish Sookun 30 Jan '20

30 Jan '20

Dear community members, It's 26 December! The call for nominations and applications for the openSUSE Board election has ended. We received four applications. The list of candidates is as follows: Alessandra de Oliveira Faria https://en.opensuse.org/User:Cabelo Sarah Julia Kriesch https://en.opensuse.org/User:AdaLovelace Simon Lees https://en.opensuse.org/User:Simotek Vinzenz Vietzke https://en.opensuse.org/User:Vinzv We thank them for stepping up and wish them all the best for the election campaign. The campaign will last for about three weeks and members can begin voting on 16 January. The election schedule is as follows: https://twitter.com/openSUSE/status/1206462985750896640/photo/1 In the coming days, we will share more information about our candidates. Should you have any question for our candidates, please feel free to ping them. Regards, Ish Sookun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] >avg developer friendliness?
by Felix Miata 16 Jan '20

16 Jan '20

ISTR discussion somewhere that openSUSE has copious software developers as users. Is this documented anywhere, maybe with statistics, and reasons why? Since I don't code anything, I don't have a clue what might create favor, unless it has to do with openSUSE's BS and/or QA systems. I first tried it for several reasons, among which German heritage, KDE3, YaST2, and understandable network installation instructions for 8.0. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Reviving the marketing team
by Vinzenz Vietzke 07 Jan '20

07 Jan '20

Hi all! Watching openSUSE from being not involved in development I get the impression that it keeps acting like a poker player: Having a full deck of cards at hand including four aces but not showing to anyone just because the position of his sun glasses could… possibly… eventually… under circumstances… be optimized. That's something I want to change and want to revive the marketing team and get arts people involved. So I started to take notes: 1) Create content - present tools - continuous reports about developments going on - do interviews with different people/teams about their work in oS - ask people running booths to report - show how cool oS features are - draw pictures, memes and such - create video demos of various oS features 2) Create buzz - push stuff from 1) to any platform online - push shop-o-o with monthly product - make raffles of stickers etc. - invite to chats, forums etc. to discuss things 3) Keep following up - run regular onboarding events for new people interested to help - tailor events for special interests ("how to work with oS as a web dev") I am willing to step up and coordinate the whole thing a bit. But this all needs a few more people. Anyone wanting to help with this is welcome. Also please keep in mind that the things I mentioned are just ideas and discussion is very much welcome. What are your thoughts? Who's in? Regards, vinz.

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[opensuse-project] How are we really doing?
by Felix Miata 29 Dec '19

29 Dec '19

I know Distrowatch has its detractors, and for good reasons, but it exists. Is there anything better that remotely resembles what it purports? The following over December 2004 to date is based almost exclusively upon Distrowatch pages: 2004-12 2009-11 2014-12 2019-12 Debian Rank Name Hits Rank Name Hits Chg Rank Name Hits Chg Rank Name Hits Chg 32? based 1 Mandriva 1390 | 1 Ubuntu 2176 +8 | 1 Mint 2325 +2 | 1 MXLinux 4559 New Yes 4559 2 Fedora 1271 | 2 Fedora 1679 +- | 2 Ubuntu 1853 -1 | 2 Manjaro 2573 +16 No No 3 SUSE 9.2 937 | 3 Mint 1359 New | 3 Debian 1581 +3 | 3 Mint 2225 -2 Yes 2225 4 MEPIS 857 | 4 openSUSE 11.2 1350 -1 | 4 OpenSUSE 13.2 1361 +- | 4 Debian 1675 -1 Yes 1675 5 Debian 844 | 5 Mandriva 998 -4 | 5 Fedora 1297 -3 | 5 Ubuntu 1428 -3 Yes 1428 6 Knoppix 810 | 6 Debian 908 -1 | 6 Mageia 1171 * | 6 Elementary 1288 +6 No 1288 7 Slackware 666 | 7 Puppy 836 +22 | 7 CentOS 1169 +5 | 7 Solus 1112 New No No 8 Gentoo 639 | 8 Sabayon 755 New | 8 Arch 1040 +2 | 8 Fedora 959 -3 No No 9 Ubuntu 566 | 9 PCLinuxOS 730 +5 | 9 Elementary 906 New | 9 Zorin 928 +1 No 928 10 Damn Small 489 | 10 Arch 702 +12 | 10 Zorin 810 New | 10 Deepin 878 +7 No 878 11 FreeBSD 398 | 11 Slackware 649 -4 | 11 LXLE 777 New | 11 AntiX 782 +26 Yes 782 12 Yoper 363 | 12 CentOS 607 New | 12 Puppy 748 -5 | 12 KDE Neon 741 New No 741 13 Xandros 361 | 13 FreeBSD 521 -2 | 13 Kali 739 New | 13 CentOS 705 -6 No No 14 PCLinuxOS 357 | 14 Tiny Core 492 New | 14 Lubuntu 730 New | 14 OpenSUSE 15.1 704 -10 No No 15 Vine 289 | 15 MEPIS 472 -11 | 15 Android X86 697 New | 15 PCLinuxOS 679 +1 No No 16 RedHat 282 | 16 Gentoo 439 -8 | 16 PCLinuxOS 662 -7 | 16 ArcoLinux 670 New No No 17 SLAX 273 | 17 Kubuntu 396 New | 17 Deepin 625 New | 17 Pop!_OS 647 New No 647 18 Kanotix 252 | 18 Zenwalk 363 New | 18 Manjaro 591 New | 18 Arch 615 -10 No No 19 Vector 219 | 19 Vector 345 +- | 19 FreeBSD 581 -6 | 19 Kali 488 -6 Yes 488 20 Gnoppix 207 | 20 Ultimate 339 New | 20 Bodhi 550 New | 20 ReactOS 433 +22 Yes No 21 Feather 190 | 20 CrunchBang 339 New | 21 Robolinux 540 New | 21 Mageia 432 -15 Yes No Total 11660 Total 16455 Total 20753 Total 24521 15639 The 32bit column may be a bit misleading, as some distros whose latest releases do include 32bit versions have announced future versions will not include them. e.g. DW lists yes for Fedora, but that's for Fedora's latest-1, out of support in 4 months, not latest, so I listed it as no. 64% of the top 21 distros are Debians (15639/24521), 74% of the top 10 (12981/17625), and 81% of the top 6 (11175/13748). Debian proper support is expected through 2038 at least, and so at least some of its derivatives. I did not try to account for any name changes that I didn't already know about. e.g. the former Mandrake/Connectiva/Mandriva dissolved into three different distros that I'm aware of, with Mageia the apparent strongest of the survivors. There's nothing to make me want to leave, but if I was looking for a distro, the abundance of obsolete or otherwise not up to date wiki pages make openSUSE look to me like a dying distro. Traffic over the past year or more on the support lists and forums seems to have gone way down. Only two stepped up to become candidates for two expiring board positions. Are we doing better than these observations make openSUSE look? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Running for board
by Vinzenz Vietzke 25 Dec '19

25 Dec '19

Hi there, this is my application for the upcoming board election. You can find my profile here: https://en.opensuse.org/User:Vinzv Here's my board election platform: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_2019_platform_vinzv Regards, vinz.

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