May 2015 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] letter to people not accepted to be a member
by jdd 24 Jul '15

24 Jul '15

Hello, I do not have at hand the letter that is received by people asking to be a member but with no or nearly no contribution, and so refused. I think this letter is much too rude, and that it's a waste of good will not to make some sort of follow up. There are not so many :-) I can try to do so. I propose to have a letter of this sort (very incomplete, please read and comment) https://en.opensuse.org/User:Jdd/letter_to_people_asking_to_be_a_member_2015 do we have a forum/mailing list that we could ask such people to subscribe? "opensuse@" seems to me much to intimidating :-) thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Why are we here
by Bernhard M. Wiedemann 10 Jun '15

10 Jun '15

The actual question to be discussed below is slightly different then the "Why are we here" in the title, but as philosophical and possibly even more important to us. In this talk https://events.opensuse.org/conference/osc15/proposal/650 it was discussed, that communication is important and that more important than _what_ we are doing and _how_ we are doing it, is _why_ we are doing it. And it is important to put this "why" answer first. All the other stuff is just minor details which follows. Which brings us back to the important question: Why are we here, or more precisely _Why are we contributing to free/libre/open source software_ (the openSUSE project and upstream software in our case) I already asked a few people and got several good reasons: 1) Because I want to help FLOSS to make the world a better place. (related: Because it makes me proud, knowing that many people using it for all kinds of tasks) 2) Because software should be free (since I have already written it, distributing it is free, it is useful to other people and they are even contibuting (ideas and some patches) back) 3) Because I want to use the best (in some of the dimensions of best) software (related: because I do not want to use proprietary software crap) 4) Because I can make it to do what I want. 5) Because there is a Challenge (while doing something that is useful and cool) 6) Because it is Fun Note: The numbering above is meant to help reference the items and not as a ranking. Feel free to add other good reasons or tell which ones you like best or add other thoughts on the topic (If you dont feel comfortable discussing this in public, just mail me and I might add it to a later summary) Ciao Bernhard M. -- SUSE LINUX GmbH Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 15:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 02 Jun '15

02 Jun '15

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 15:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=27&month=5&year=2015&h… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] ActiveDoc?
by Greg Freemyer 01 Jun '15

01 Jun '15

I happened to be looking thru activedoc today: https://activedoc.opensuse.org If you login (with your opensuse creds) and look at recent edits, its a pretty active site but 50% or more of the recent changes are new pages unrelated to opensuse. I thought of deleting some of them but I didn't find a delete option. Is there one? Ignoring that, my real issue is that the latest content seems to be for openSUSE 12.3. Is there an equivalent document set for 13.1 and 13.2? Thanks Greg -- Greg Freemyer www.IntelligentAvatar.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] letter to non active openSUSE members
by jdd 29 May '15

29 May '15

Hello, I want to follow up on the OSC-15 discussion. IMHO, the first thing to do is to scan the openSUSE members list to see who is still active and who is no more. Some questions: * could it be possible to have an interface like the one used to accept/refuse new members? this interface gives some short links to searchs allowing to know the activity of the people. Having the same one for member group would be great. * do we have a list of people voting for the last board ballot? * I plan to send a personal mail only to any openSUSE member witch I can't find any activity proof. I dropped on a wiki page a model for this letter: https://en.opensuse.org/User:Jdd/letter_to_members_2015 please can you read it and comment it. I want to be as kind as possible If some of you can help me on this task... we could share on some wiki page the list of active/inactive members to don't send twice the letter to the same people. If half the member are no more active (rough guess), this makes as much as 250 people, a bit much for only one people :-) :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] oSC15 YouTube Playlist
by PatrickD Garvey 27 May '15

27 May '15

First, thank you to whomever is building the openSUSE Conference 2015 YouTube playlist [1]. I have a very limited travel budget and this is allowing me to virtually attend the conference. What an amazing batch of information was presented in such a short time. I thought you might like to know that the playlist includes two copies of "OSC15 - Jos Weyers - Showing keys in public. What could possibly go wrong?" v=fWwqMPVliNA and v=9Mu70JnCQyI They differ in length by 1 second, but I doubt the playlist needs to include both ;) 1. https://www.YouTube.com/playlist?list=PL_AMhvchzBaeV36wYqnKb7xWAN0zfDfjz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Don't search developers. Develop them. Events, events everywhere
by Efstathios Iosifidis 22 May '15

22 May '15

Hello my friends, Unfortunately I couldn't make it to the conference due to family health problems. I saw the project meeting and I totally agree with Henne. Actually I was preparing a post about part of what he said. Here it is: https://lizards.opensuse.org/2015/05/06/developing-developers/ It doesn't matter if the product is the best (SLEbased, SLEless, Tumbleweed). If there are no end users to use and promote it (because usually developers don't), then it's useless to have it. Find out WHY you do what you do and just go out and engage people (as I mention, the term marketing leeds to profits-money). Go to events, bring more people (prefer end users) to community and just help them engage-grow. Help end users to find themselfs in the community. If they like it, they'll become developers. If they're not interested in developing, they'll help make our project fantabulous. Don't forget to have fun. /S -- http://www.iosifidis.gr http://linkedin.iosifidis.gr Great leaders don't tell you what to do...They show you how it's done. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts...absolutely. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] asking members for help
by jdd 16 May '15

16 May '15

We have a number of "members", and of people asking to be a member. Who cares to see what they happen to do? When we ask "contribute first then come back", couldn't we ask them something more precise? How could we be more effective in this? Jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 15:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 12 May '15

12 May '15

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 15:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=13&month=5&year=2015&h… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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