October 2014 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] opensuse-user not on gmane any more?
by Jim Henderson 19 Nov '14

19 Nov '14

I just noticed today that the gmane.linux.suse.opensuse.user group is missing from gmane.org - did the project request the list be removed from gmane? Just wondering if it was intentional or if something went wrong somewhere. Thanks, Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Project Meeting Minutes
by Richard Brown 18 Nov '14

18 Nov '14

Hi All, We had a nice long discussion during the Project Meeting in IRC today, minutes are below: * Tumbleweed Feedback was given about the timing of the merger, the nature of the announcements, and the lack of a broader discussion in the Project before the decision to merge the two rolling releases. sysrich (Richard Brown) explained that these issues were caused by a desire to have the situation clear for Tumbleweed users before the release, mixed in with unavailability caused by travel surrounding openSUSE summit. sysrich apologised, accepted the feedback, and agreed that standard practices should have been followed like involving the News team before making the announcement and starting a discussion/heads up to the opensuse-factory mailinglist at the earliest opportunity. * AoB * News/Marketing Teams It was suggested that the News and Marketing Teams should be merged. Arguments against this include the fact that the whole point of the News team is to allow private news items to be discussed before they go public, whereas the Marketing team operate in the public. However, this did raise the issue that both teams and many of our other 'non-technical' areas of contribution seem to be lacking lately, and ideas were discussed on how to get more people enthusiastic, contributing, and (also very importantly) contributing to the right areas where the Project needs it most Ancorgs asked for help filling in the Major Features wiki page for 13.2 at https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Major_features which is still incomplete * Board Elections Board elections are coming up, we need Election committee volunteers and candidates, see the announcement on -project -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Paste outage
by Michal Hrusecky 31 Oct '14

31 Oct '14

Hi, next Saturday (8th of November) after 10 pm CET will be openSUSE Paste offline due to scheduled maintenance. We apologize for inconvenience, should be back online on Sunday early morning before 2 am CET. Regards, Michal Hrusecky -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] RE:Take Your Business Online & Make More Sales!
by Delight Africa Limited 30 Oct '14

30 Oct '14

Greetings, My name is Daniel and would like to have the privilege of helping you generate additional revenue by offering our cutting-edge web, seo and software services to you. Would you be interested in a possible redesign of your site or additional features that might benefit the overall usability and user experience which usually leads to increased leads and sales? You will be able to get emails such as info(a)yourcompany.com, sales(a)yourcompany.com, or yourname(a)yourcompany.com and much more Custom Dynamic Web Design starting from Ksh.s 10,000 - Mobile enabled We also have CRM - Customer Relationship management system AMS - Asset Management System DMS - Document Management System HRM - Human Resource Planning PMS - Project Management System ERP - Enterprise Resource Planning management System View some of the latest web design projects: http://www.goldenjuices.com http://www.eclipsevaluers.com http://www.interlab.co.ke Contact Details: +254(0)703 745 484 | +254(0)724 566 088 | +254 (0) 722 533771 Location: 4th Floor, Dev Towers, Biashara Street, Nairobi Kenya. Note: - Though this is not an automated email, we keep on sending out these emails to all those people whom we find eligible of using our services. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Upcoming board elections
by Robert Schweikert 28 Oct '14

28 Oct '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Yes it is hard to believe that we are already staring at the end of the year. With only 2 months to go it is time to get the board election process fired up again. As a first step we are looking for an election committee of 2 to 4 volunteers. The election committee determines the time line for the election process and determines which seats are up for election according to election rules [1]. We the members of the board believe there are 2 seats up for election, currently held by Peter Linnell, appointed after Richard Brown was appointed by SUSE as Board Chair, the other held by Robert Schweikert who is reaching the end of a 2 year term. This opinion is to be confirmed or refuted by the election committee. In order for there to be an election we need candidates that want to participate on the openSUSE Board. If you are interested in the governance of the project and are willing to make the time commitment please consider standing for election. As with previous calls for candidates we realize that it is difficult to predict the future. However, we asked that before you stand for election you try your best to examine whether or not you can commit to the board for the next 2 years. Having people step down is always a disruption. As far as time commitment is concerned not much has changed since the last election, please refer to [2] for a message to candidates, that still applies today. Thank you for your continued support of the project, The openSUSE Board [1] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules [2] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2013-10/msg00064.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUT5seAAoJEE4FgL32d2UkNLgH/2cVbmlIuBvi5Ci1i4QgUKwn hRm2wwDhuQXUWGn6lKigW67b9xkcnkjEjybs8H5sKp/LUSb/cRM/wyL0gtCMSxi9 AFCW1soWBffWkI8+IKQdo+WbAJzAIA1yPM2Dgckibf5dbRsrzUzkzdBdspGIURbD BmiLDfbMIgiD3dw6bU/6kPEMrMtVKNgsnRnBh08i0GxlmLq6YQa5Qqikp7c+IXFX IxLA05Qb2q2EWQihxPHe5NV2bxVidjZNv/w/Zp1vRr3uPcpBm8TGrO/M1XelBLLW TrZhuebk+4XJ7ssYOeaucEzgrrurRBiS/bsR3Mmj/H6v2A6LTZNmgLJTqZflyuE= =j0Iz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] RE:Take Your Business Online & Make More Sales!
by Delight Africa Limited 28 Oct '14

28 Oct '14

Greetings, My name is Daniel and would like to have the privilege of helping you generate additional revenue by offering our cutting-edge web, seo and software services to you. Would you be interested in a possible redesign of your site or additional features that might benefit the overall usability and user experience which usually leads to increased leads and sales? You will be able to get emails such as info(a)yourcompany.com, sales(a)yourcompany.com, or yourname(a)yourcompany.com and much more Custom Dynamic Web Design starting from Ksh.s 10,000 - Mobile enabled We also have CRM - Customer Relationship management system AMS - Asset Management System DMS - Document Management System HRM - Human Resource Planning PMS - Project Management System ERP - Enterprise Resource Planning management System Some of our web design projects: http://www.eclipsevaluers.com http://www.interlab.co.ke http://www.goldenjuices.com Contact Details: +254(0)703 745 484 | +254(0)724 566 088 | +254 (0) 722 533771 Location: 4th Floor, Dev Towers, Biashara Street, Nairobi Kenya. Note: - Though this is not an automated email, we keep on sending out these emails to all those people whom we find eligible of using our services. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 15:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 28 Oct '14

28 Oct '14

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 15:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=29&month=10&year=2014&… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] 13.2 Marketing Video Project
by Roger Luedecke 26 Oct '14

26 Oct '14

I was thinking of starting a video series on 13.2 when the Goldmaster becomes available. The idea being to set up a VM and give a video tour of the Installation etc. I was thinking it'd make sense to separate the videos; Installation & advanced YaST installer function>Introduction to GNOME 3.14 Shell with overview of design philosophy>in depth with GNOME applications and workflow>personal favorites, third party software, etc. I want to keep the voice over separate in order to allow other users to make localized sound tracks.I'd also need someone else to do the KDE video since I haven't used KDE in years. I'm also not especially familiar with VM and video capture from those, or what to really use for rudimentary video editing. Thoughts? Tips? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Marketing and 13.2
by Ancor Gonzalez Sosa 25 Oct '14

25 Oct '14

Disclaimer: this is not a rant, is a call to arms. We are quite close to the release of openSUSE 13.2. Looking at the state of Beta1 and RC1, I trust it's going to be a great release from the technical point of view, compared to previous ones. But a release is much more than just the software, and the comparison with previous releases is not so bright in other areas. openSUSE 13.1 was a GREAT HIT in the marketing area. Just take a look to all we achieved at https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-13-1-release/issues/gantt?s… An insane amount of work brilliantly executed, including the press kit (absolutely invaluable), the sneak peaks (raising excitement every week) and much more. But what about 13.2? We had to delay the release of the beta because of the lack of an announcement! And we only had a draft for the announcement of RC1 the very same morning that it was released. We should all be extremely grateful to Kostas for taking over in both cases and coming up with the announcements, grabbing the information, coordinating the people and making it happen. What if we all try to go back to the 13.1 situation (with people pushing the developers asking for changes and highlights to feed the marketing beast) instead of the current one (with developers pushing in the mailing list to have an announcement published)? Greetings. PS.- Sending it to the project list because I don't feel it's just a matter for the marketing or news teams, but something the whole project should care about. -- Ancor González Sosa openSUSE Team at SUSE Linux GmbH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] bugzilla proposal wrt internal bug reports not publicly visible
by Per Jessen 21 Oct '14

21 Oct '14

It seems I have hit a few of these recently, latest one today - it is a little annoying when one's report is marked duplicate of something one cannot see. I totally appreciate having two reports is a hassle for whoever is working the bug too, but given two reports A and B, could we perhaps disallow marking A a duplicate of B unless B is visible to the reporter of A? Comments? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (17.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] oSC15 project IRC meeting 21st oct 13h UTC / 15h CEST
by Hans de Raad 20 Oct '14

20 Oct '14

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting for the openSUSE Conference 2015 will be held tuesday the 21st at 13:00 UTC and 15:00h CEST in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=21&month=10&year=2014&… Agenda will be posted in a follow up mail, the minutes of the last meeting, includion action items can be found here: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2014/opensuse-proje… We hope to see you all next tuesday! All the best! Hans de Raad Robin Edgar -- OpenNovations / DevHdR Van Sevenbergestraat 49 2274PK Voorburg Tel +31 6 83578847 www.hcderaad.nl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Mailing list trolls
by Roger Luedecke 18 Oct '14

18 Oct '14

The following two actively troll in main lists, and engage in homophobic rants on Off-Topic. Banga Gong <banga.gong65(a)gmail.com> Basil Chupin <blchupin(a)iinet.net.au> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] GSOC 2015
by Shubhankar Deshpande 17 Oct '14

17 Oct '14

Greetings. I am planning to participate in GSOC 2015. I went through some of the ideas that have been there in previous years. Who should I contact if I am to propose my own idea? I would like to discuss the feasibility of the project. Thanks in advance.

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[opensuse-project] Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2015
by Marcel Richter 17 Oct '14

17 Oct '14

Hallo, Für alle Projekte, Interessenten, ... leite ich die Informationen für die Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2015 weiter. Vorschläge zu Vorträgen, Workshops, Stände können bis zum 7.01.2015 eingereicht werden. Weitere Fragen wegen Organisation, Mitwirkung am Stand gerne an mich. Grüße Marcel (luriv) das Wichtigste in Kürze: ________________________ Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2015 am 21. und 22. März * https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/uk/pressestelle/aktuell/1/6140 Webseite im neuen Gewand * https://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2015/de Aufruf zu den Calls bis 7. Januar 2015 * https://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2015/de/programm/call-for-lectures * https://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2015/de/programm/anmeldung/live Beiträge für den Tagungsband gesucht * https://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2015/de/programm/tagungsband ------------------------------ --------------------------------------- und ausführlich: ________________ Länger war es still auf diesem Kanal. In dieser Zeit haben wir schon wieder einiges bewegt, geplant und gebaut. Nun können wir berichten: 2015 locken die Chemnitzer Linux-Tage am 21. und 22. März in das Zentrale Hörsaal- und Seminargebäude der TU Chemnitz. Die Webseite zur Veranstaltung ist online. Mit einem frischen, mobilgerätefreundlichen Design begrüßt sie ihre Besucher. Direkt auf der Startseite sind der „Call for Presentations“ und der „Call for Lectures“ verlinkt. Unter dem diesjährigen Motto „Spielend einfach“ werden Beiträge und Präsentationsstände zu folgenden Themen gesucht: - Grundlegende Funktionsprinzipien von Linux-Systemen - Einsatz von Linux in der Lehre - Nutzen von Hardware-Bastelprojekten als Einstiegsmöglichkeit in Linux - Vergleich und Zukunft von Nutzerschnittstellen und Bedienkonzepten - Zeitgemäßheit althergebrachter GNU-Konzepte (ein Programm für eine Aufgabe) im Vergleich zu hochintegrierten Softwarepaketen (ein Paket für alle Aufgaben) Wie immer sind natürlich auch Einreichungen willkommen, die sich nicht den genannten Schwerpunkten zuordnen lassen. Seit 2010 veröffentlichen wir zusätzlich Beiträge im Tagungsband der Chemnitzer Linux-Tage. Die Ausgaben erscheinen im Universitätsverlag und können über den Buchhandel bezogen werden. Wer eine Veröffentlichung im Tagungsband wünscht, findet im Formular eine Checkbox dafür. Die einzelnen Termine und Gestaltungshinweise zu den Papers sind auf unserer Webseite nachzulesen. Wir freuen uns auf spannende Themen. In der Zwischenzeit werden wir weiter bewegen, bauen, planen – und auf dem Laufenden halten. Es grüßt herzlich das Team der Chemnitzer Linux-Tage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 15:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 14 Oct '14

14 Oct '14

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 15:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=15&month=10&year=2014&… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Board Meeting Minutes 22 Sept
by Richard Brown 13 Oct '14

13 Oct '14

Hi All, here are some belated Board meeting minutes from our 22 Sept Meeting GSoC Rewards The Board was asked about the possibility of rewarding GSoC Mentors for their great hard work during each years GSoC The Board has decided that money or material rewards are not a route we want to pursue, as it can be perceived as 'payment for contributions' which is something we fundamentally disagree with as a volunteer community. It would also be a great deal of logistical work However, we are very fond of the idea of Thank you letters, increased news attention, and generally making sure our GSoC mentors feel their contributions are rightly recognised and thanked - (so to get it started - THANK YOU all for the great work making this years GSoC a success) Booth Box The Board is beginning discussions and planning to purchase new merchandise as our 'Booth Box' stock is starting to run low. We're awaiting detailed costs from last years purchases to help us plan this years. We're also keen to investigate distributed purchase and storage instead of centralising it at SUSE's Nuremberg office. openSUSE Asia Summit All looking good, no action items, the Board is very excited to see how the event succeeds! oSC 15 Kick off event was discussed (Since happened, oSC 15 planning is in full swing,please get involved) SUSEcon openSUSE will have a booth at this years SUSEcon 13.2/Marketing openSUSE 13.2 needs more help marketing, Kostas is getting involved and spearheading the Boards efforts to get more people to help make 13.2 both a marketing as well as a technical success Regards - Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [Reminder] Participation in Research online survey
by Ilias R.(Zoumpis) 13 Oct '14

13 Oct '14

Dear openSUSE contributors, My name is Athanasios-Ilias Rousinopoulos and I am a PhD Candidate working in the Software Engineering Research Group at the Alpen-Adria-University Klagenfurt (http://serg.aau.at). Together with my supervisor Prof.Dr. Martin Pinzger and as part of my ongoing research in the software repository mining field, I am performing an online survey related to the sentiment analysis of open source developers/contributors. With this e-mail I would like to invite you to participate in the online survey. The corresponding survey can be found at: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/7HN8FWW Please fill in your email address (in the survey) if you are you interested to know more about sentiment analysis research, participate in the draw and also help us in the future! We assure that all answers will be coded anonymously and treated confidentially. Note : The deadline for participation is 20/09/2014, 12PM (AoE) Thanks in advance for your participation in this survey! Respectfully, Athanasios-Ilias Rousinopoulos, MSc PhD Candidate -- Athanasios-Ilias Rousinopoulos PhD Candidate Software Engineering Research Group Institute of Informatics Systems Alpen-Adria University of Klagenfurt http://serg.aau.at/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Help wanted with selecting a theme for openSUSE Conference 2015
by Hans de Raad 13 Oct '14

13 Oct '14

Dear all! During the last project meeting it became evident that (at least) one crucial piece of branding was missing, a theme! So, i've tried to think up a couple based on some key words that i think suit both openSUSE and The Netherlands: Flexibility through diversity Agility through collaboration Conference at sealevel And two more, based on the "We adapt, you succeed" slogan: The result-driven distribution We create, you benefit I'd love to hear your input so that we can select a suitable theme on our next project meeting (21st of Oct, announcement will come shortly)! All the best! Hans -- OpenNovations / DevHdR Van Sevenbergestraat 49 2274PK Voorburg Tel +31 6 83578847 www.hcderaad.nl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Bugs for 13.2
by Stephan Kulow 11 Oct '14

11 Oct '14

Hi, To avoid having to copy the bugzilla components every time we do a new release, Richard and me decided to do it once and for all and created a bugzilla product named "openSUSE Distribution". I moved all 13.2-Beta1 bugs to that (we tracked them in 'openSUSE Factory'). I would love to move all existant openSUSE distribution bugs in there, but that would trigger quite some bugzilla SPAM so I better don't :) Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] 13.2 promo images
by Peter Czanik 08 Oct '14

08 Oct '14

Hi, Do we have 13.2 promo images, like we there were available for 13.1? I mean, like this cover photo for Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/190575564436/photos/a.10151354955774437.495271.190… Bye, CzP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] German City Gummersbach Drops Windows XP and Gets SUSE with a MATE Desktop
by Efstathios Iosifidis 08 Oct '14

08 Oct '14

Read full article http://news.softpedia.com/news/German-City-Gummersbach-Drops-Windows-XP-and… We have our own MATE ready. Here is the Portal https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:MATE I think it's in the official repositories. Test it and report any bugs. Have phun, Stathis -- http://www.iosifidis.gr http://linkedin.eiosifidis.info/ Great leaders don't tell you what to do...They show you how it's done. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts...absolutely. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Linux Foundation Certification Discount
by Richard Brown 07 Oct '14

07 Oct '14

Hello Geekos, You may be aware the Linux Foundation recently launched two Certification programs - Linux Foundation Certified Sysadmin (LFCS) covering basic system administration - Linux Foundation Certified Engineers (LFCE) covering advanced system administration and engineering skills Full details on the programs is at http://bit.ly/1yKRjxp Unlike other Linux Certification programs the exams for these are offered on several community distributions, Ubuntu, CentOS, and our very own openSUSE 13.1! The Linux Foundation would like to offer openSUSE users a special $100 discount off the price of LFCS or LFCE examinations (33% off the usual $300 price) To get your discount, all you need to do is visit this URL http://bit.ly/1yKRjxp and register for an Exam using the Coupon code: LFopenSUSE100 This Coupon code expires on 7th November and is limited to the first 500 registrations, so I'd recommend registering quickly if you're interested. After registering for the exam, you have 12 months schedule and actually take the exam, so your can register your discount and worry about taking the exam after you've had some time to study. Have a lot of fun! - Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] REMINDER openSUSE Conference 2015 next meeting 7 october 13.00h UTC
by Hans de Raad 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

Dear all! Our next projectteam meeting will be tuesday the 7th of October on 15h CEST (13h UTC), to find out the time in your timezone check: www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=7&month=10&year=2014&hour… Agenda: - Status of tooling OSEM and Trello - Announcements - Status of website, etc - Status of artwork - Volunteer team assignments - Promotion on conferences? Please forward this reminder to anyone who might be interested in participating in the organization of this great event, we can never have too many volunteers! We are looking forward to meeting you again at the opensuse channel on Freenode! Best regards, Hans de Raad Robin Edgar -- OpenNovations / DevHdR Van Sevenbergestraat 49 2274PK Voorburg Tel +31 6 83578847 www.hcderaad.nl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Wanted: zypper feature, save list of wanted packages to file instead of downloading them.
by Carlos E. R. 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Could that feature be added to yast/zypper? The idea is that, instead of it doing the actual package download, it generates a list of relative/absolute URLS to download, so that the user can take it to another machine with Internet and do it. There are people without internet on their machines; be it because there is no internet in their area, expensive, but they can use a school or library access, or because the machine is on an isolated intranet section in an organization. I have seen two cases recently in the forum. One of them is behind a proxy that blocks an non firefox agent string, and zypper insists on using "ZYpp". Another one is using plain dialup modem. The current workaround is to mirror the entire needed repos on external hard disks... and these can be huge. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlQug0kACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XL1QCeIcoHEZow2+R+vIV3w9A72r9j DNwAn2KMZGjB6C5eHLOkb6mUmKdEFRu9 =B9Jf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Minutes openSUSE Conference 2015 team meeting 23 sept -> next meeting 7 october 13.00h UTC
by Hans de Raad 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

Dear all! Today we had a productive kickoff session on IRC, thanks to all participants! The minutes can be found here *: Minutes: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2014/opensuse-proje… Minutes (text): http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2014/opensuse-proje… Log: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2014/opensuse-proje… * apparently we still have some practicing to do with regards to the IRC tags, but the general outline should be readable. The next meeting will be tuesday the 7th of October on 15h CEST (13h UTC), to find out the time in your timezone check: www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=7&month=10&year=2014&hour… We all have quite a bit of work to do before the next meeting, so don't let me detain you! Best regards, Hans de Raad Robin Edgar -- OpenNovations / DevHdR Van Sevenbergestraat 49 2274PK Voorburg Tel +31 6 83578847 www.hcderaad.nl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 15:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 03 Oct '14

03 Oct '14

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 15:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=1&month=10&year=2014&h… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] a broad appeal to fix opensuse's package-management's repository/redirector failure & recovery mechasnism
by grantksupport＠operamail.com 02 Oct '14

02 Oct '14

In my experience, package management's routine failure to find/use a 'healthy' repository is a long-standing production problem. I'm requesting a fix. Here's a summary: I run Opensuse 13.1 on numerous machines lsb_release -rd Description: openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64) Release: 13.1 Current count is ~200. The machines are installed at multiple locations around the globe. They're connected to the 'net via a variety of different networks providers. Some of the machines are directly connected to the 'net, some are behind LAN routers, switches & firewalls. Package management for all of the machines is handled exclusively via zypper cli. Each machine has a common core of repositories defined in /etc/zypp/repos.d, and frequently has a number of additional @openSUSE dev (!'home') repos defined. In ALL cases, the default install of repos sets have been installed with the meta-director as baseurl, baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/... Regular package maintenance consists of zypper clean --all zypper (d)up The maintenance frequency is nominally 1/wk, often 1/dy, and in devs' cases, often more frequent. In virtually ALL cases, the update process regularly fails @ retrieving/refreshing the repos' (meta)data. For example, a typical result is: ... Checking whether to refresh metadata for KDE4-Extra-Unstable Retrieving: repomd.xml .......................................................................................[error] File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium 'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/Extra/KDE_Current_…' Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i/? shows all options] (a): ... This occurs occassionally for any/all repos, whether the standard distribution repos (security, update, etc), core DM (e.g. KDE*) additional repos, or the more 'esoteric' !home OBS-hosted repos (e.g., security:netfilter). The failure rate for overall update/upgrade process attempts is, very roughly, ~15%. The error is NON-recoverable. 'Abort' & 'retry' *never* work. Chats @ IRC re: the issue typically result in the same '(non)responses' : "wait", "works for me", "prove it", etc. The ONLY solution(s) that work are: (1) wait some random amount of time -- typically hours, occassionally days -- until the system magically heals itself, (2) visit the download.opensuse.org link for the repo, click 'details' for a target page, identify a specific working/available repo for the package(s) of interest, and manually edit baseurl= for the problematic repo. Neither is tenable for a reliable operating environment. It is simply unmanageable in either a single, local or widely-distributed environment. (2) is further confounded by the fact that, at any given time, a previously-working, manually-selected repo may, itself, fail, requiring -- yet again -- another manual intervention. Within the scope of our environment, no other distro's package management system has anywhere near the failure rate demonstrated here. (We've ~600+ other machines running a mix of Centos, Fedora, Debian & Ubuntu). This has been occurring for literally years, across multiple openSUSE versions, and remains unaddressed. I know, without any doubt, that others experience similar/frequent failures -- it's been a frequent discussion with our partners, as well as in openSUSE* IRC channels. This needs a fix. As to what, specifically, that fix can/should be -- I'm unclear. If a solution already exists, I'm unaware. One idea -- a fallback mechanism *within* a repos' definition would be useful For example, allow in a given repo's def'n, having multiple, numbered baseurls baseurl1=http://direct/url/to/specific/site/1/... baseurl2=http://direct/url/to/specific/site/2/... baseurl3=http://download.opensuse.org/... ... baseurlN=http://direct/url/to/specific/site/3/... and add fuction to zypper so that for each repo, the baseurls would be tried in order for any given failure. By adding, e.g., a failcount2abort=X to either/both a given repo's defn, or /etc/zypp(er).conf, the overall process could be terminated if there were "X" # of subsequent fails, indicating a likely systemic problem requiring further intervention. I'd appreciate hearing from "those responsible for keeping the redirector & repos working" re: * acknowledgement, or refusal thereof, of the failure issue * clarification as to why it occurs in the first place * ideas/suggestions as to what can/should be done to fix it Thanks. Grant -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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