How about: communities together inclusion and growth Beyond nations ? On 9 October 2014 22:55, Rick Chung wrote:

On Thursday, October 09, 2014 08:26:45 AM Hans de Raad wrote:

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Dear all!

During the last project meeting it became evident that (at least) one crucial piece of branding was missing, a theme!

So, i've tried to think up a couple based on some key words that i think suit both openSUSE and The Netherlands:

Flexibility through diversity Agility through collaboration Conference at sealevel

Woud you mean something like:

Multiple channels of collaboration Collaboration diversity on Multiple Paths Leveling the waters through worldwide collaboration

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And two more, based on the "We adapt, you succeed" slogan: The result-driven distribution We create, you benefit

I'd love to hear your input so that we can select a suitable theme on our next project meeting (21st of Oct, announcement will come shortly)!

All the best!

Hans

Best,

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Goodmorning Henne, thanks for your clarification, i would like to offer a little more explanation on why i've suggested these themes: Flexibility through diversity In the history of the Netherlands, there have always been a lot of changes in the various groups of people living here, we started out as farmers, became merchants, conquered the world, got kicked out of our colonies, etc, etc. But not only that, there is a large cultural diversity that goes with that, and this diversity requires a lot of tolerance and flexibility. The openSUSE community is a worldwide ecosystem of different types of people (devs, artwork, sales, business, projectmanagers, etc, etc), so there is a very close similarity in that. One of the things that came out of the townhall meeting in Dubrovnik (saw the video) was that openSUSE doesnt want to specifically focus on one functional target area, but instead wants to offer a very flexible and stable platform for all. I hope we can continue the discussion on that topic in The Hague. Agility through collaboration The Rheinland-model is one of the best working examples of multidisciplinary collaboration in the world. It's based on the presumption that if you have shared public goods (ie a distribution like openSUSE), you should take care to govern them in a way that all parties can benefit without getting in each others way. This is very much applicable on the direction that was chosen last year at Dubrovnik (and also before in Thessaloniki) and i feel that we should continue working on that path. There are a lot of very functionally targeted distros out there, but very little serve a broad audience in the way that openSUSE does, that is something i would like to suggest we could dive into some more and work on that philosophy. Conference at sealevel Well, this one is obviously applicable to the surroundings, but the background thought on that is that i think openSUSE is a very down to earth, honest and modest distribution, we like to have our plumbing in order, and we want to offer a stable but flexible basis on which individuals (or companies) can rely and build. This refers to the ongoing effort we in the Netherlands have to take to ensure that we have a dry country, but also as one of the worlds biggest sea-harbors we have an excellent starting position to do great business. So, no, i don't feel these suggested themes are just cheap marketing slogans, there is a rationale behind them which is in my opinion actually very well applicable on openSUSE, well obviously i wouldnt have suggested them otherwise. Also i honestly dont think that the theme of past conferences had a very big influence on both the program and the focus of the audience. Personally i feel that these themes have been mostly reflected in the community discussions and townhall meetings, and that is great ofcourse, but i dont think we should overstate the importance of the theme as "guiding instrument" on the overall program. But, if you don't like them, that's fine ofcourse, please suggest a couple of your own and we can have a discussion about it! Best regards, Hans -- OpenNovations / DevHdR Van Sevenbergestraat 49 2274PK Voorburg Tel +31 6 83578847 www.hcderaad.nl On 2014-10-10 16:30, Henne Vogelsang wrote:

Hey,

On 09.10.2014 08:26, Hans de Raad wrote:

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I'd love to hear your input so that we can select a suitable theme on our next project meeting (21st of Oct, announcement will come shortly)!

The 'theme' of oSC is about what we want it to be about. It's not some simple marketing sentence like the ones you've posted...

What do we want oSC15 to be about? What is the issue we want to focus the event on. What is the mindset we want people to have about it? What do we want to take away from it?

oSC11: Read, Write, Execute (rwx). We wanted everyone to be able to everything in openSUSE. oSC12: Bootstrapping awesome. We wanted to bootstrap the linuxdays.cz event/community. oSC13: Power to the Geeko. We wanted people to feel empowered to actually do things now that they are able to. oSC14: The Strength to Change. There were a lot of changes to our distribution immanent and we wanted to focus on those.

So what's oSC15 about? :-)

Henne

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On 10/11/2014 07:27 PM, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

On Saturday 11 October 2014 10.08:28 Hans de Raad wrote:

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Goodmorning Henne,

thanks for your clarification, i would like to offer a little more explanation on why i've suggested these themes:

Flexibility through diversity In the history of the Netherlands, there have always been a lot of changes in the various groups of people living here, we started out as farmers, became merchants, conquered the world, got kicked out of our colonies, etc, etc. But not only that, there is a large cultural diversity that goes with that, and this diversity requires a lot of tolerance and flexibility. The openSUSE community is a worldwide ecosystem of different types of people (devs, artwork, sales, business, projectmanagers, etc, etc), so there is a very close similarity in that. One of the things that came out of the townhall meeting in Dubrovnik (saw the video) was that openSUSE doesnt want to specifically focus on one functional target area, but instead wants to offer a very flexible and stable platform for all. I hope we can continue the discussion on that topic in The Hague.

Agility through collaboration The Rheinland-model is one of the best working examples of multidisciplinary collaboration in the world. It's based on the presumption that if you have shared public goods (ie a distribution like openSUSE), you should take care to govern them in a way that all parties can benefit without getting in each others way. This is very much applicable on the direction that was chosen last year at Dubrovnik (and also before in Thessaloniki) and i feel that we should continue working on that path. There are a lot of very functionally targeted distros out there, but very little serve a broad audience in the way that openSUSE does, that is something i would like to suggest we could dive into some more and work on that philosophy.

Conference at sealevel Well, this one is obviously applicable to the surroundings, but the background thought on that is that i think openSUSE is a very down to earth, honest and modest distribution, we like to have our plumbing in order, and we want to offer a stable but flexible basis on which individuals (or companies) can rely and build. This refers to the ongoing effort we in the Netherlands have to take to ensure that we have a dry country, but also as one of the worlds biggest sea-harbors we have an excellent starting position to do great business.

So, no, i don't feel these suggested themes are just cheap marketing slogans, there is a rationale behind them which is in my opinion actually very well applicable on openSUSE, well obviously i wouldnt have suggested them otherwise. Also i honestly dont think that the theme of past conferences had a very big influence on both the program and the focus of the audience. Personally i feel that these themes have been mostly reflected in the community discussions and townhall meetings, and that is great ofcourse, but i dont think we should overstate the importance of the theme as "guiding instrument" on the overall program.

But, if you don't like them, that's fine ofcourse, please suggest a couple of your own and we can have a discussion about it!

Best regards, Hans

Thanks a lot, for the long and motivated explanation. It's highly valuable. Make sense a lot.

If I would be the one who choose I'm in favour of Conference at sealevel :-) +1, I think it also has a nice ring to it! :-)

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