December 2012 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] download.opensuse.org IPV6 address breaks updates
by Gerald Pfeifer 15 Nov '13

15 Nov '13

I am seeing this with an openSUSE 12.1 system at home, and also a Factory system at work: % host download.opensuse.org download.opensuse.org has address 195.135.221.134 download.opensuse.org has IPv6 address 2001:67c:2178:8::13 And then, when running zypper patch or zypper up, I see Retrieving: repomd.xml [error] Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.1/repodata/repomd.xml': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to 2001:67c:2178:8::13: Network is unreachable Alas, my provider nor that network at work support IPv6. Still, my system has IPv6 enabled since roaming around on different networks, IPv6 may be present, or even necessary there. (This does not happen all the time, sometimes if I retry a bit later the system uses IPv4 and everything works.) Now, is this just a setup problem and I should simply and unconditionally disable IPv6? Or are some parts of our update or network stack in need of some adjustments? For the time being, unless this is just me running into this, should we disable IPv6 on download.opensuse.org? Gerald -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com> || SUSE || Director Product Management -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 17:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 26 Dec '12

26 Dec '12

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 17:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=26&month=12&year=2012&… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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25 Dec '12

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[opensuse-project] The New 2013 Board Members are:
by Bryen M Yunashko 22 Dec '12

22 Dec '12

As of 23:00 UTC on 16 December, 2012, the openSUSE Project’s members completed the Fifth election of the openSUSE Board. At stake were two seats of the five electable seats. With 8 candidates, the community definitely had a broad choice of qualified candidates to choose from. In the end, the two top vote-getters were Raymond Wooninck (tittiacoke) and Robert Schweikert, (robjo) respectively. They will join the openSUSE Board on January 9th during the transitional meeting of the regularly scheduled Project meeting heldon the Freenode IRC Channel at 17:00 UTC. The Election Officials would like to congratulate all of thecandidates for a great campaign season. These candidates included Matt Barringer, Richard Brown, Carl Fletcher, Manu Gupta, Chuck Payne and Stefan Seyfried. All of these candidates demonstrated a commitment to the Project and exemplified the Guiding Principles which the Project, as a whole, is founded upon. We join the rest of the community in looking forward to an exciting year to come as the new Board embarks on new initiatives and directions. And we thank the community for giving us the opportunity to serve as members of the election committee. Sincerely, The openSUSE Election Committee - Izabel Valverde - Thomas Schmidt - Bryen M Yunashko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] banner
by Victor hck 21 Dec '12

21 Dec '12

Hi ! The elections have finished, so I think it's time to change the banner of the page: http://www.opensuse.org/en/ http://www.opensuse.org/es/ Bye! ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] poll results
by Marcus Rueckert 21 Dec '12

21 Dec '12

hi, poll results should be viable for logged in users. not just members. I dont even see a reason not to make them public viable without login. with kind regards darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Cross-posting - why not?
by Greg Freemyer 21 Dec '12

21 Dec '12

All, The netiquette was updated in the last couple days to explicitely say cross-posting is wrong: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette#Cross_posting I very much disagree for the majority of the opensuse specialized lists. In particular I note there is currently a cross-posted discussion going on here with both -artwork and -project in the to: line. I think this is as it should be. I propose the netiquette be updated to say: ======= Cross posting That is when the same message is sent to two or more mail lists at once, like when we CC two or more people in a private message. Problem is if people reply and are not able to post to both lists. Then one of the replies is rejected and the conversation becomes disjointed. ie. Conversation becomes broken as the reader[s] can see only messages that are posted to their list, often stumbling on answers without previous questions. This is imposing a lot of additional work to follow conversation, like looking another list, or mail list archives, and try to locate missing messages. The opensuse lists come in 2 flavors: Closed lists that only allow subscriber postings and open lists which allow non-subscriber postings. The high volume end-user distro support lists are all closed. The lower volume specialized lists are typically open. Thus if you post to a end-user list like "opensuse(a)opensuse.org" do not cross-post to any other list. If you are posting to the more specialized open list, cross-posting is fine, but when replying to cross-posted messages, please continue to reply to both of the cross-posted lists. === FYI: The LKML (linux kernel mailing lists) familiy of mailing lists has been open for years and the cross-posting has been the norm there for years. This is a solution. FYI2: I first proposed on opensuse(a)opensuse.org converting it to an open list and allowing cross-posting, but got little buy-in. That's why I carved out the main user support lists from the rest. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Question about the function of connect.o.o
by Satoru Matsumoto 18 Dec '12

18 Dec '12

Hello mates, does anyone know whether there's a function to push notifications to group members when a discussion is newly created or updated on connect.opensuse.org group? Best, -- _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing/Weekly News/openFATE Screening Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds_at_gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.zaq.ne.jp/opensuse/ _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Board report for October & November 2012
by Vincent Untz 17 Dec '12

17 Dec '12

Hi all, Here is a report of what the openSUSE Board discussed in October and November 2012. Note: action items that have been completed are not mentioned here; some action items can belong to non-board members. We intend to have such reports on a regular basis. On a personal level, I'd like to encourage teams to write short reports too, to keep everyone aware of what's going on. Feedback on the content (as well as the form) is welcome :-) Cheers, Vincent ================================================================== Events ====== + openSUSE Conference 2013 One team applied to organize the Conference in 2013. After some discussion with the team, and an evaluation of other options that could be considered, it was agreed that the Conference would be organized in Greece in July 2013. + openSUSE Summit 2013 SUSE proposed to host an openSUSE Summit in Florida after SUSEcon, in November 2013. In concrete terms, SUSE would sponsor the venue and part of the organization, while the community would handle the content and some local organization. To make an informed decision, feedback on the idea has been requested from the community. + openSUSE Conference 2014 In the hope that we can have two events a year, and assuming that we would have a venue for the Summit sponsored by SUSE around November every year, the board believes it would be beneficial to have the Conference in spring. To enable this in 2014, we need to publish a call for hosting bids shortly after the openSUSE Conference 2013 announcement. AI: all to decide about openSUSE Summit 2013 AI: all to prepare a call for bids for the openSUSE Conference 2014 Hackathons ========== A long-time idea of organizing more hackfests/sprints/etc. was pushed with a proposal from SUSE to host three hackathons before openSUSE 12.3. The board supported the proposal. One goal is to learn from this experience so that the community can organize more hackathons all year long. Andrew agreed to monitor and help the coordination of the first hackathons for the board. Changes to Ambassadors Program ============================== Kostas sent a proposal about changes to the ambassador program (as proposed in his talk at the conference). On a general note, the board supports the changes. There were some comments / suggestions for changes from a non-board reviewer, that could be added to clarify a few things (such as the relation with our existing governance structure, ie the board). AI: Kostas to review latest comments, and then start implementing the changes. Legal entity for openSUSE ========================= An internal discussion about whether we need a legal entity or not resumed again, and what form it should take. Two of the goals would obviously be to be able to have direct access to some funds, and to receive donations. Two main approaches were being discussed: - creation of a Foundation - joining a non-profit organization like the Software Freedom Conservancy The two approaches are currently under evaluation (which includes discussing with the Software Freedom Conservancy). The goal is to have as much information as possible so that the board with newly-elected members can move fast next year. AI: Vincent to discuss further with Software Freedom Conservancy AI: Henne to fetch old documents about establishing a Foundation Organization of openSUSE Board elections ======================================== The board worked on setting up an election committee that will organize the elections. Izabel Valverde, Bryen Yunashko and Thomas Schmidt agreed to step up. Misc ==== There was short discussion on having openSUSE as an organization in Ohloh, with general agreement that it should be done. AI: Henne to create the organization in Ohloh -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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