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[opensuse-project] latest kernel, kernel-desktop-2.6.38.4-22.1, doesn't support my ups and lm_sensors
by Patrick Shanahan 28 Apr '11

28 Apr '11

i7 intel m/b DX58SO2, running 11.4 w/Tumbleweed latest kernel, kernel-desktop-2.6.38.4-22.1, has broken my ups: Mon Apr 25 09:24:38 EDT 2011 apcupsd FATAL ERROR in linux-usb.c at line 614 Cannot find UPS device -- For a link to detailed USB trouble shooting information, please see <http://www.apcupsd.com/support.html>. Mon Apr 25 09:24:38 EDT 2011 apcupsd error shutdown completed and running sensors-detect fubars /etc/sysconfig/lm_sensors, doesn't find correct modules. note: modules in previous kernels only report 1/2 the processors adt7490-i2c-0-2e Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at 5000 in0: +1.66 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.31 V) Vcore: +0.97 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +2.99 V) +3.3V: +3.29 V (min = +2.96 V, max = +3.61 V) +5V: +5.20 V (min = +4.48 V, max = +5.50 V) +12V: +12.23 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +15.69 V) in5: +2.50 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +4.48 V) fan1: 844 RPM (min = 0 RPM) fan2: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM) fan3: 854 RPM (min = 0 RPM) fan4: 2172 RPM (min = 0 RPM) temp1: +138.2°F (low = -196.6°F, high = +260.6°F) (crit = +217.4°F, hyst = +217.4°F) M/B Temp: +119.3°F (low = -196.6°F, high = +260.6°F) (crit = +149.0°F, hyst = +141.8°F) temp3: +99.5°F (low = -196.6°F, high = +260.6°F) (crit = +149.0°F, hyst = +141.8°F) coretemp-isa-0000 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 0: +86.0°F (high = +177.8°F, crit = +213.8°F) coretemp-isa-0001 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 8: +111.2°F (high = +177.8°F, crit = +213.8°F) coretemp-isa-0002 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 1: +86.0°F (high = +177.8°F, crit = +213.8°F) coretemp-isa-0003 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 9: +98.6°F (high = +177.8°F, crit = +213.8°F) coretemp-isa-0004 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 2: +98.6°F (high = +177.8°F, crit = +213.8°F) coretemp-isa-0005 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 10: +91.4°F (high = +177.8°F, crit = +213.8°F) I have not yet filled a bugreport ????? Should I? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Versionitis - Results (Or: The next openSUSE release is openSUSE 12.1)
by Andreas Jaeger 27 Apr '11

27 Apr '11

The voting on how to do the versioning is over and the "old school" has won by 55 per cent (of 98 participants). Thanks to all that participated in the two votes and the discussion around the topic. As Coolo said in http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2011-03/msg00516.html, we'd like to make a small change to the numbering: We will not have a .0 release but only .1, .2, .3 release. Since we have releases in three months, the November release is always the .1 release, the July release the .2 and the March release the .3. So, the plan is that the next release will be called openSUSE 12.1 and launched on the 10th of November, 2011! Two years later - on the 14th of November, 2013 - we will then have the openSUSE 13.1 release. So, the next four releases are: * November 2011: openSUSE 12.1 * July 2012: openSUSE 12.2 * March 2013: openSUSE 12.3 * November 2013: openSUSE 13.1 Detailed results for logged-in openSUSE members are available at the connect poll page and I have reproduced them here as well: * A: "old school": Like currently but only counting the right number until 3: 55% (54 votes) * B: "Fedora style": Just integers: 29 % (28 votes) * C: "Ubuntu style": YY.MM: 16 % (16 votes) This is also consistent with the results of thefirst public voting (see http://lizards.opensuse.org/2011/03/28/opensuse-release-versioning-poll-on- last-three-options/ ). Note that openSUSE does not have a major and minor numbering, even if it seems so. There is right now no difference in any way between what we would do for openSUSE 11.4 or 12.0 or 12.1 – and no sense to speak about openSUSE 11 or openSUSE 11 family. We also had in the past no process on how to name the next release (when to increase which parts of the number). I think this new versioning is still consistent with the old one but also an improvement since it's now clear that we change the first digit every two year. The first poll showed that half of our users prefer a date based versioning and the other a consecutive numbering. So, depending on your point of view, you can see this as a mixture of both or as consecutive numbering ;) So, time now to make openSUSE 12.1 a great release! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj(a){novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: zypper slow
by Chris Jones 27 Apr '11

27 Apr '11

Well I did try with the Google DNS 8.8.8.8 and with the same result, which is what I expected. Because if it was a DNS issue for some reason, it wouldn't be limited to zypper and openSUSE. As previously mentioned both yum and apt work perfect and fast in both functioning and downloading of packages. I freshly installed openSUSE last night and updated. The actual launch and function of zypper doesn't seem to be the issue. It definitely appears to be the downloading of packages as the actual noted download speeds of each package was VERY inconsistent. I suspect it's the mirror from where my packages are sourced. As I'm a relative newcomer to openSUSE, I have no idea how to check which server it is using for the sourcing of the packages. I am located in Queensland, Australia if it helps. Cheers -- PHOTO RESOLUTIONS - Photo - Graphic - Web C and L Jones - Proprietors ABN: 98 317 740 240 WWW: http://photoresolutions.freehostia.com @: chrisjones(a)comcen.com.au or photoresolutions(a)comcen.com.au Command lines and Linux terminals are my comfort zone! OS: openSUSE 11.4 System: Linux 2.6.37.1-1.2 x86_64 Desktop: KDE 4.6.0 OS: Windows XP System: x86 Desktop: Professional SP3 OS: FreeBSD 7.3 System: i386 Server: Headless-WebUI+putty -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Voting blank or "none of the above" ?
by Per Jessen 26 Apr '11

26 Apr '11

Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2011-04-26 08:24, Per Jessen wrote: >> Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> It seems to be to be a little too late to bring this up? > > Not for the next vote. > True, but is there really much point in a blank "protest" vote? Other than satisfying the need of the protester, what will it do? Still, I guess there's no harm done in adding a "None of the above" option to future votes. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (17.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Conference 2011: program commitee meeting #1
by Pascal Bleser 26 Apr '11

26 Apr '11

Also on the wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_Planning_2011_Meeting_20110421 The program committee for the openSUSE Conference 2011 held its first meeting today, on #opensuse-project. The team consists of the following: * Vincent Untz * Bryen Yunashko * Alan Clark * Jos Poortvliet * Will Stephenson * Pascal Bleser Everyone was present, except Will who couldn't attend at that time of day. The complete log is available online: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2011/opensuse-proje… as well as the summary of action items and decisions: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2011/opensuse-proje… Topics ~~~~~~ The predefined topics for this meeting were as follows: * Theme * Format As usual, a few more topics arose during the meeting. Theme ~~~~~ The discussion around the theme of the conference revolved around two aspects: * the motto (or tag line) of the conference, with two proposals currently floating around: * "Collaboration across borders" (same as 2010) * "rwxrwxrwx" (openSUSE: read, write, execute, for you, the project, and the world) The debate mostly went about how much collaboration, and how much openSUSE centric sessions should be held. Collaboration is important in many ways: * openSUSE is an open minded project that actively seeks collaboration with other open source projects * doing so at the conference makes it more visible in the press and marketing wise in general (as in: we know it's like that, but not everyone knows nor sees us like that just yet) * of course, it also gives us opportunities to get in touch with other people and projects who are not in the openSUSE community and not directly contributing to openSUSE, but still of high interest for current or future undertakings of our project, as well as to mutually benefit both our project and other open source projects Nevertheless, the openSUSE Conference in 2010 was felt as not making up enough time for topics that are specific to our project. As such, we agree that the focus needs to be shifted a bit more towards openSUSE itself. The team agreed on the following: * the motto is not critical right now, and may still be decided upon later, especially as it also involves other people in the community, such as the marketing and artwork teams * the program committee will request the support of the openSUSE marketing team for the motto, albeit the general theme of the conference will be decided by the program committee; also, the final say on the motto will remain with the committee, but only to veto in if it does not match the theme * the program committee will have as goal to reach a ratio of around 2/3 of sessions being openSUSE centric, and 1/3 about collaboration with other projects * for sessions on collaboration, we will reach out to projects and people who work on things that have a direct connection with what we do Bryen will contact the marketing team to gather their support on the conference motto. Format ~~~~~~ We had a few discussions and ideas about the format of the conference -- more specifically, how to organize the schedule and the sessions themselves. We agreed on the following: * the program committee will write up guidelines and good practices for presentations and BoFs (or what we call "read-only" and "read/write" sessions, respectively) to provide some support for speakers * the program committee will put a strong focus and favor "read/write" session proposals, as we believe that it provides more value to the community, give more people a chance to chime in with their ideas and experience, and also because we are (or at least try to be) an open project without much bureaucracy Venue ~~~~~ Neither the date nor the location of the conference are known at this time. Andreas Jaeger is currently actively seeking options in the area of Nürnberg in Germany, and we hope to have a solution very soon. The venue will have to have at least 5 distinct rooms (of which one will be used by the SUSE Labs conference) to provide sufficient capacity for the attendees, as well as enough flexibility to organize the schedule. Call for Papers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Not having the date nor the location at this point is a major hurdle for a Call for Papers. Indeed, most people will be reluctant to post a proposal if they don't know where and when. Nevertheless, making the Call for Papers is quite pressing, as it typically involves a somewhat longer period of time for people to send their proposals, as much as it needs to take a few days into account for the program committee to decide on those. Jos will write up a draft for the Call for Papers, which will then be quickly circulated across the conference committee for amendments. It will not be published just yet, as we prefer to have a confirmation on the date and the location before we do (for the reasons mentioned above.) The next program committee is next week, where we will decide what to do with the Call for Papers (publish or wait for the confirmation of location and date), especially if location and date are not known at that time. Alan will send out emails to several openSUSE mailing-lists to ask for input on * current or upcoming topics, e.g. in terms of technology * major undertakings and tasks that need to be addressed soon, and where one or more sessions during the conference could be helpful for collective brainstorming * people/projects to invite for close collaboration during the conference (e.g. systemd, smolt, OBS, Fedora marketing team, etc...) The program committee will collect a few proposals for topics/tracks in order to facilitate the submission of sessions during the Call for Papers phase. Infrastructure ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The cfp(a)opensuse.org mailing-list will be used again to contact the program committee as well as to submit proposals after the publication of the CfP (unless we come up with a better solution in the mean time.) Bryen will contact Henne (our mailing-list admin) to configure the mailing-list for the program committee for 2011. We also agreed on using Indico [1] again, mostly because it is already in place. [1] http://cdsware.cern.ch/indico/ Next meeting ~~~~~~~~~~~~ The next meeting of the program committee is scheduled for next week, 2011-04-28, at 19:00 UTC. cheers -- -o) Pascal Bleser /\\ http://opensuse.org -- we haz green _\_v http://fosdem.org -- we haz conf

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[opensuse-project] Re: zypper slow
by Chris Jones 26 Apr '11

26 Apr '11

Well I did try with the Google DNS 8.8.8.8 and with the same result, which is what I expected. Because if it was a DNS issue for some reason, it wouldn't be limited to zypper and openSUSE. As previously mentioned both yum and apt work perfect and fast in both functioning and downloading of packages. I freshly installed openSUSE last night and updated. The actual launch and function of zypper doesn't seem to be the issue. It definitely appears to be the downloading of packages as the actual noted download speeds of each package was VERY inconsistent. I suspect it's the mirror from where my packages are sourced. As I'm a relative newcomer to openSUSE, I have no idea how to check which server it is using for the sourcing of the packages. I am located in Queensland, Australia if it helps. Cheers -- PHOTO RESOLUTIONS - Photo - Graphic - Web C and L Jones - Proprietors ABN: 98 317 740 240 WWW: http://photoresolutions.freehostia.com @: chrisjones(a)comcen.com.au or photoresolutions(a)comcen.com.au Command lines and Linux terminals are my comfort zone! OS: openSUSE 11.4 System: Linux 2.6.37.1-1.2 x86_64 Desktop: KDE 4.6.0 OS: Windows XP System: x86 Desktop: Professional SP3 OS: FreeBSD 7.3 System: i386 Server: Headless-WebUI+putty -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] YaST in G3
by Raul 25 Apr '11

25 Apr '11

Hello friends, I would love to know how they're going to yast gnome3. G3 was incredible in openSUSE, but we can not stay without yast. Cheers, -- Raul Libório http://rauhmaru.blogspot.com/ rauhmarutsªhotmailºcom openSUSE Member | Linux User #4444581 "There are only 10 types of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Balsam Professional & Balsam Enterprise
by Kim Leyendecker 22 Apr '11

22 Apr '11

Dear all! I read about these two products on Pro-Linux and also th comments there. I see, that there´s a big screaming after a product like the old SuSE Linux Professional line was. The two Balsam products would realize this missed "feature". Are we support these guys at open-SLX who are creating this distro? thanks -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker(a)hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE HAVE A LOT OF FUN! http://www.opensuse.org | http://www.suse.de Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] GNOME3 now ready?
by Jim Henderson 22 Apr '11

22 Apr '11

I was just pointed at a blog posting by Frederic Crozat (who I think was working on getting the repository set up) that says GNOME3 is "ready". Since we kinda jumped the gun in the forums with it, I'd like to (a) verify that the project is considering it ready, and (b) find out if we have an announcement that we can use in the forums. Thanks, Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] zypper slow
by Chris Jones 21 Apr '11

21 Apr '11

I have a genuine question for the openSUSE folk. I recently switched from Red Hat to openSUSE 11.4. In a nutshell, I am very happy with the resulting system that I have running with the 2.6.37 Linux kernel. But I just can't understand one thing. What makes zypper so god damn slow when it comes to package management and installation of packages? In comparison to Red Hat's yum and Debian's apt, zypper is shockingly slow at anything it does. I'm curious as to why this is and why it can't be developed to match the speed of yum and apt. Can someone shed some light on this? Cheers -- PHOTO RESOLUTIONS - Photo - Graphic - Web C and L Jones - Proprietors ABN: 98 317 740 240 WWW: http://photoresolutions.freehostia.com @: chrisjones(a)comcen.com.au or photoresolutions(a)comcen.com.au Command lines and Linux terminals are my comfort zone! OS: Windows XP System: x86 Desktop: Professional SP3 OS: openSUSE 11.4 System: Linux 2.6.37.1-1.2 x86_64 Desktop: KDE 4.6.0 OS: FreeBSD 7.3-p3 System: i386 Server: Headless-WebUI+putty -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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