April 2010 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] Last Survey
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 25 Jun '10

25 Jun '10

Hello Mates, two month ago we started an online survey. Is the Survey now closed? Exists any results? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE - Portal:Teams
by Shayon Mukherjee 05 May '10

05 May '10

Hello folks , For the past few days myself along with some great contributors (P.M me for the list :) ) have been working on Portal:Teams [1] . That is organizing the Teams in and around openSUSE . You are requested to spend some time reviewing it and get back to the list if you find something is not right or would like to solve your queries. This process is almost done (basics), but yes incomplete without your valuable review and input . I plan to finish this process and announce it by end of this week.If required I can be flexible with this :) , that said I am no hurry . Waiting to hear from you . . . PS:If there is no response the page will considered as O.K . [1] http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Teams -- Regards SJ (Shayon) openSUSE http://en.opensuse.org/User:wwarlock/ Twitter : ShayonM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] i18n: man pages
by Carlos E. R. 30 Apr '10

30 Apr '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Man pages are a pain to translate, and many translations are obsolete. Same, or worse, info pages. One of the problems is that there is no modern tool for doing the job. It is done in plain text with arcane tokens, and the result is "compiled" later. Fine for devs, bad for plain, poor translators. A GUI would be nice. It would be perfect if LyX could produce them, but I have been unable to succeed, so far. Manedit is such a tool (http://freshmeat.net/projects/manedit/) but last time I looked it did not support UTF-8, it is nowhere to be found in the buildservice, and fails to compile in 64 bits. Any kind dev around can provide us with a nice, easy to use, tool? O:-) (I ask in this list because I worry that Linux, in general, doesn't seem to be very interested in producing translated manuals. Are we? ;-) ) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvVZr8ACgkQU92UU+smfQWUogCgkODbHyqvonNL4a3CpN3F+GvC dagAoJUNeMdz7+t3c20GcIPKguyepcvw =xpJi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-marketing] <idea> Lists of openSUSE local teams
by Michael Loeffler 30 Apr '10

30 Apr '10

Moin, On Thursday 29 April 2010 22:18:48 Александр Мелентьев wrote: > 2010/4/29 Alex Rodriguez <alexio44(a)opensuse.org.ni>: > > Hi everyone > > > > Some time ago asking about the mailing lists of the opensuse community. > > The response I got was that the only lists that there are these >> > > http://lists.opensuse.org/ > > > > My proposal is to establish official lists of the project for each > > country, just as it does ubuntu > > which has a Local Community for each one of them. > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Ubuntu+Worldwide+LoCo+Teams > > In this way you can have topics and talks of local communities, closer > > support and communications of the country. > > > > Nicaragua currently have this list suse-ni(a)opensuse.org.ni but we are > > experiencing a lot of errors > > as users went from 100 to 350 more or less and where we hosted the > > mailman (handler list) > > is blocking and removing members (today I found that the poor list > > only has 80 members) > > > > You can do the admin for the ambassador of that specific list. > > > > We push this idea? I think other countries would love the idea. > > I can't see how this differs from national lists presented in the last > section of lists.opensuse.org. There are a lot of national lists > already. I guess that Alex is more interested in local project team mls which are more around the topic of "What are we doing in our region/country to push openSUSE". The already existing language lists are more user lists to communicate in native language about the distribution and to help each other. So they are more technical. I actually think adding local lists which may be managed/coordinated by the respective ambassador is a good idea but a mailing list on its own might not be enough. In my opinion to a local group should belong as well: - a web page - regular meetings - maybe an IRC channel Best Michael > -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-marketing] <idea> Lists of openSUSE local teams
by Alex Rodriguez 29 Apr '10

29 Apr '10

2010/4/29 Александр Мелентьев <alex239(a)gmail.com>: > 2010/4/29 Alex Rodriguez <alexio44(a)opensuse.org.ni>: >> Hi everyone >> >> Some time ago asking about the mailing lists of the opensuse community. >> The response I got was that the only lists that there are these >> >> http://lists.opensuse.org/ >> >> My proposal is to establish official lists of the project for each >> country, just as it does ubuntu >> which has a Local Community for each one of them. >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Ubuntu+Worldwide+LoCo+Teams >> In this way you can have topics and talks of local communities, closer support >> and communications of the country. >> >> Nicaragua currently have this list suse-ni(a)opensuse.org.ni but we are >> experiencing a lot of errors >> as users went from 100 to 350 more or less and where we hosted the >> mailman (handler list) >> is blocking and removing members (today I found that the poor list >> only has 80 members) >> >> You can do the admin for the ambassador of that specific list. >> >> We push this idea? I think other countries would love the idea. > I can't see how this differs from national lists presented in the last > section of lists.opensuse.org. There are a lot of national lists > already. > It's not the same... there are language lists but not for groups. Example In Spain are making a local event for opensuse and they have to get together all the stuff, logistics, etc .... They have to send all that mail to the opensuse-es ??? In Costa Rica, Panama and other country that belongs to opensuse-es don't want to receive all that mails ... Greetings -- Ing. Alejandro Rodriguez || @LeX Usuario Linux # 379802 http://en.opensuse.org/User:Alexio44 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] vertaag versus pootle
by jdd 29 Apr '10

29 Apr '10

Can somebody explain in short form why we use vertaal and not pootle for translating management? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-support-the-Linux-Documentation-Project/372… http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-fan-page-of-Claire-Dodin/106485119372062?… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] <idea> Lists of openSUSE local teams
by Alex Rodriguez 29 Apr '10

29 Apr '10

Hi everyone Some time ago asking about the mailing lists of the opensuse community. The response I got was that the only lists that there are these >> http://lists.opensuse.org/ My proposal is to establish official lists of the project for each country, just as it does ubuntu which has a Local Community for each one of them. https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Ubuntu+Worldwide+LoCo+Teams In this way you can have topics and talks of local communities, closer support and communications of the country. Nicaragua currently have this list suse-ni(a)opensuse.org.ni but we are experiencing a lot of errors as users went from 100 to 350 more or less and where we hosted the mailman (handler list) is blocking and removing members (today I found that the poor list only has 80 members) You can do the admin for the ambassador of that specific list. We push this idea? I think other countries would love the idea. Thanks Greetings -- Ing. Alejandro Rodriguez || @LeX Usuario Linux # 379802 http://en.opensuse.org/User:Alexio44 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE conference 2010 kick-off meeting
by Michael Loeffler 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

Moin Ladies & Gentlemen, please join tomorrow's openSUSE 2010 conference kick-off meeting [1] on #openSUSE-project IRC channel (Thursday 22, 4pm UTC [2]). Purpose of the meeting is to create a frame for a successful openSUSE conference and define some topics and look for topic owner. Looking forward having you there. Best M [1] http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Conf_2010 [2] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=22&year=20… -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE conference 2010 approaching
by Michael Loeffler 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

On Friday 16 April 2010 23:20:57 Strainu wrote: > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com> wrote: > > For the venue we're aiming for the same venue we had last year - > > Berufsförderungswerk Nürnberg [2] - which is perfect from a conference > > perspective and has 75 hotel rooms on-site with a reasonable price. > > Downside was internet connectivity (2Mbit) but they meanwhile can offer > > 4Mbit and work on getting 10Mbit till mid of this year. So, with some > > luck this downside should be solved till the conference takes place. > > As a participant at last year's conference I have several issues to > report regarding Berufsförderungswerk: > - it was excessively far for people coming from downtown - over 1 > hour 15 in commuting. The main problem was the bus, which was only > coming each half hour, and if I remember correctly had a different > ticket price. I think a location that one can reach by tram would be > more appropriate for that city. Good point - the bus was the bottle neck here. I can't guarantee a solution right now but I think a possible solution might a cab/rented car which swings between tram and venue. > - in 2010 lack of Internet sucks (especially for geeks). There are no > good points here; we're not monks ore slaves that should concentrate > only on the matter at hand, we're mature people that can focus during > the presentations and do whatever they like in the rest of the time As written the capacity already has doubled (which is not enough - I know) and we have a fair hope to get a 10Mbit line which should solve this. > - the place outside the conference rooms was pretty small. The > solution was to talk outside the building, but the later the > conference is in the year, the more chances there are of rain. The > organizers should take this into account too. In German October is called "the golden October" as its known for nice late summer weather. But yes, there might be exception and we should offer enough room that people can gather when they like to. Best M > -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE conference 2010 approaching
by Bryen M. Yunashko 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 00:20 +0300, Strainu wrote: > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com> wrote: > > For the venue we're aiming for the same venue we had last year - > > Berufsförderungswerk Nürnberg [2] - which is perfect from a conference > > perspective and has 75 hotel rooms on-site with a reasonable price. Downside > > was internet connectivity (2Mbit) but they meanwhile can offer 4Mbit and work > > on getting 10Mbit till mid of this year. So, with some luck this downside > > should be solved till the conference takes place. > > As a participant at last year's conference I have several issues to > report regarding Berufsförderungswerk: > - it was excessively far for people coming from downtown - over 1 > hour 15 in commuting. The main problem was the bus, which was only > coming each half hour, and if I remember correctly had a different > ticket price. I think a location that one can reach by tram would be > more appropriate for that city. Out of curiosity, are you resident of Nuremberg or did you choose to stay in hotel in downtown area? If staying at hotel, why didn't you stay at the conference center hotel? IIRC we had some spare rooms left. I did not use public transit when I was in Nuremberg, so I have no idea what the system is like, and can't comment. But do understand that one of the reasons we used this location was because of the price. The rooms were very cheap compared to inner city. The conference itself was free to everyone and many rooms were sponsored. I think the tradeoff for staying outside of the main city was well worth it, and I didn't really mind it that much. > - in 2010 lack of Internet sucks (especially for geeks). There are no > good points here; we're not monks ore slaves that should concentrate > only on the matter at hand, we're mature people that can focus during > the presentations and do whatever they like in the rest of the time Agreed. Definitely showed poor preparation by the conference center. We taught them a lesson big time last year. :-) It was more frustrating for me because I am from US so my cell phone service did not even work in EU and therefore, I could not even check messages on my phone. But as Michl said, they are working to upgrade their service by this summer and hopefully that issue will be mostly resolved in time for our arrival. > - the place outside the conference rooms was pretty small. The > solution was to talk outside the building, but the later the > conference is in the year, the more chances there are of rain. The > organizers should take this into account too. I'm not sure I agree completely. I think we did alright. We had the main hallway, the cafeteria area, the lounge area. And most people went outside mainly to smoke or get some sun. The space I think is adequate for the ~200 attendees. But you raise a valid point about potential rain. Still, considering the pricing of this location, its a fair tradeoff, and even renting a big awning for the week to put outside the front area would still be far cheaper than going elsewhere. The location of Nuremberg is good also, because many of the developers are based in Nuremberg, and thus we don't have to worry about their travel costs. This allowed us to further put more of the budget into the conference itself. The purpose of the conference isn't to live like kings for a week (though wouldn't it be nice?) but to get all of our valued contributors together once a year affordably. Instead of focusing our energy on finding different (and potentially more expensive) locations, let's start to focus on how we can make the content of the conference itself even more useful than before. Thanks! Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Marketing Team Lead GNOME-A11y Team Outreach -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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