Hello folks ,
For the past few days myself along with some great contributors (P.M me for the list :) ) have been working on Portal:Teams [1] . That is organizing the Teams in and around openSUSE . You are requested to spend some time reviewing it and get back to the list if you find something is not right or would like to solve your queries. This process is almost done (basics), but yes incomplete without your valuable review and input .
I plan to finish this process and announce it by end of this week.If required I can be flexible with this :) , that said I am no hurry .
Waiting to hear from you . . .
PS:If there is no response the page will considered as O.K .
[1] http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Teams
Torsdag den 29. april 2010 15:07:29 skrev Shayon Mukherjee:
For the past few days myself along with some great contributors (P.M me for the list :) ) have been working on Portal:Teams [1] . That is organizing the Teams in and around openSUSE . You are requested to spend some time reviewing it and get back to the list if you find something is not right or would like to solve your queries. This process is almost done (basics), but yes incomplete without your valuable review and input .
I plan to finish this process and announce it by end of this week.If required I can be flexible with this :) , that said I am no hurry .
Waiting to hear from you . . .
PS:If there is no response the page will considered as O.K .
Looks pretty good. I wonder if all the major OBS projects shouldn't be listed too - like X11, Games, Server, Kernel etc.
Martin ,
Looks pretty good. I wonder if all the major OBS projects shouldn't be listed too - like X11, Games, Server, Kernel etc.
I am not sure and are there any community members working under it ?
Javier ,
Where should we have Packman and openSUSE-Community.org? They aren't 100% part of the openSUSE project. Perhaps under subprojects?
As discussed on IRC , Sub-projects are defined as the projects under openSUSE , so here you are right Packman and openSUSE-community.org are not 100% part of the openSUSE project . So which other place ?
What about having Lizards under Infrastructure?
Same question are there community members working under it ? If so , +1 :)
BTW, I have already added some icons. ;-)
cool ;)
Greetings,
Other , this is the time , if you want to share something or want to ask something , do it now .
Fredag den 30. april 2010 04:27:18 skrev Shayon Mukherjee:
Looks pretty good. I wonder if all the major OBS projects shouldn't be listed too - like X11, Games, Server, Kernel etc.
I am not sure and are there any community members working under it ?
At the very least we want freetime volunteers to contribute to those teams, that's probably more decisive than whether it's already happening or not.
If I'm not mistaken it's intended to form teams (volunteers and employees alike) around each of the big OBS projects that make out Factory - and your portal is great for making them more visible - basically they're not any different from KDE, GNOME, LXDE and Xfce teams.
On 04/30/2010 12:25 PM, Martin Schlander wrote:
Fredag den 30. april 2010 04:27:18 skrev Shayon Mukherjee:
Looks pretty good. I wonder if all the major OBS projects shouldn't be listed too - like X11, Games, Server, Kernel etc.
I am not sure and are there any community members working under it ?
At the very least we want freetime volunteers to contribute to those teams, that's probably more decisive than whether it's already happening or not.
If I'm not mistaken it's intended to form teams (volunteers and employees alike) around each of the big OBS projects that make out Factory - and your portal is great for making them more visible - basically they're not any different from KDE, GNOME, LXDE and Xfce teams.
Hello Martin ,
That is very much satisfying and yes we definitely encourage volunteers . So could you just let us know what exact teams you are talking of , as above I see "etc" too . :)
Thanks for the help
PS : Javier's query is still unanswered , anyone . If no one steps up myself and Javier will solve that personally ;) .
Fredag den 30. april 2010 16:56:01 skrev Shayon Mukherjee:
On 04/30/2010 12:25 PM, Martin Schlander wrote:
Fredag den 30. april 2010 04:27:18 skrev Shayon Mukherjee:
Looks pretty good. I wonder if all the major OBS projects shouldn't be listed too - like X11, Games, Server, Kernel etc.
I am not sure and are there any community members working under it ?
At the very least we want freetime volunteers to contribute to those teams, that's probably more decisive than whether it's already happening or not.
If I'm not mistaken it's intended to form teams (volunteers and employees alike) around each of the big OBS projects that make out Factory - and your portal is great for making them more visible - basically they're not any different from KDE, GNOME, LXDE and Xfce teams.
Hello Martin ,
That is very much satisfying and yes we definitely encourage volunteers . So could you just let us know what exact teams you are talking of , as above I see "etc" too . :)
I can't provide a complete list I'm afraid, that would require someone with a better overview of which OBS projects are submitting stuff to factory, but I'd guess we have at least the following significant teams:
X11 Kernel Mozilla Java Zypp OpenOffice.org Server Games
Though I'm not sure all of them have mailinglists and/or IRC channels, maybe that should be a prerequisite for being considered a real team.
While doing a bit of searching for this I also stumbled on: "board election officials" "goblin/moblin/meego/whatever-it-is-this-week" and maybe "radeonhd", but that should prolly not be considered an openSUSE team.
Martin ,
I can't provide a complete list I'm afraid, that would require someone with a better overview of which OBS projects are submitting stuff to factory, but I'd guess we have at least the following significant teams:
X11 Kernel Mozilla Java Zypp OpenOffice.org Server Games
Though I'm not sure all of them have mailinglists and/or IRC channels, maybe that should be a prerequisite for being considered a real team.
While doing a bit of searching for this I also stumbled on: "board election officials" "goblin/moblin/meego/whatever-it-is-this-week" and maybe "radeonhd", but that should prolly not be considered an openSUSE team.
I am not sure here whether all these are actually or required or not . I would like someone experienced to express his opinions here . Henne , Bryen or Andreas (I have cc'ed them )?
I feel if these fall under OBS , then why not mention them as sub-divisions in the OBS team page itself . . ?
FYI , Openoffice.org has been considered as obsolete so it'll not be counted .
Hi,
On 04/30/2010 06:45 PM, Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
I would like someone experienced to express his opinions here . Henne , Bryen or Andreas
This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say I want us kick ass instead of procrastinating!
You are creating a wiki page that lists Teams and by now you involved everybody in this project, their grandma's and their dogs. This wiki page doesn't even have any content that has influence on anything. You can put OBS teams on it or not. You can list packman as service team or as sub-project. You can categorize teams or you don't. You can put logos on it or you leave it text based. You can do whatever the heck you want to this wiki page. Its "just" a wiki page listing teams. So stop involving the whole project and take some decision. You create this page! You decide whats on it! You decide, not opensuse-project, not AJ, not Bryen or Henne. You!
If this would be a page that sets directions for the project or parts of it. If this would be a page changing other people's life in this project. If this would be a page doing something to this project. Then and ONLY THEN we discuss it. Then everybody gets to express his/her opinion and ONLY THEN we decide as a group.
Just decide something yourself. Kick Ass. Please!
Henne
p.s. Shayon I'm sorry that your mail triggered this. This is not only, but among others, about you.
Hello ,
This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say I want us kick ass instead of procrastinating!
You are creating a wiki page that lists Teams and by now you involved everybody in this project, their grandma's and their dogs. This wiki page doesn't even have any content that has influence on anything. You can put OBS teams on it or not. You can list packman as service team or as sub-project. You can categorize teams or you don't. You can put logos on it or you leave it text based. You can do whatever the heck you want to this wiki page. Its "just" a wiki page listing teams. So stop involving the whole project and take some decision. You create this page! You decide whats on it! You decide, not opensuse-project, not AJ, not Bryen or Henne. You!
If this would be a page that sets directions for the project or parts of it. If this would be a page changing other people's life in this project. If this would be a page doing something to this project. Then and ONLY THEN we discuss it. Then everybody gets to express his/her opinion and ONLY THEN we decide as a group.
Just decide something yourself. Kick Ass. Please!
Henne
p.s. Shayon I'm sorry that your mail triggered this. This is not only, but among others, about you.
Ok . Instead of shouting so loud you could have whispered that to me ;) , Sure .
On Thursday 29 April 2010 16:22:47 Martin Schlander wrote:
Torsdag den 29. april 2010 15:07:29 skrev Shayon Mukherjee:
For the past few days myself along with some great contributors (P.M me for the list :) ) have been working on Portal:Teams [1] . That is organizing the Teams in and around openSUSE . You are requested to spend some time reviewing it and get back to the list if you find something is not right or would like to solve your queries. This process is almost done (basics), but yes incomplete without your valuable review and input .
I plan to finish this process and announce it by end of this week.If required I can be flexible with this :) , that said I am no hurry .
Waiting to hear from you . . .
PS:If there is no response the page will considered as O.K .
Looks pretty good. I wonder if all the major OBS projects shouldn't be listed too - like X11, Games, Server, Kernel etc.
I suggest we start with what we have today and define what makes a team - and if those "qualify" as a team, let's add them.
Here's my shot at a definition: A team in the openSUSE context for me is an informal group of people that collaborate on a well-defined task. They should have a list of tasks that people can help with, some documented way for others can join, a team page in the wiki, and some kind of discussion going on - and this is a public project, not a Novell internal thing.
Andreas
On Thursday 29 April 2010 15:07:29 Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
Hello folks ,
For the past few days myself along with some great contributors (P.M me for the list :) ) have been working on Portal:Teams [1] . That is organizing the Teams in and around openSUSE . You are requested to spend some time reviewing it and get back to the list if you find something is not right or would like to solve your queries. This process is almost done (basics), but yes incomplete without your valuable review and input .
Where should we have Packman and openSUSE-Community.org? They aren't 100% part of the openSUSE project. Perhaps under subprojects?
What about having Lizards under Infrastructure?
BTW, I have already added some icons. ;-)
Greetings,
On Friday 30 April 2010 00:17:43 Javier Llorente wrote:
On Thursday 29 April 2010 15:07:29 Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
Hello folks ,
For the past few days myself along with some great contributors (P.M me for the list :) ) have been working on Portal:Teams [1] . That is organizing the Teams in and around openSUSE . You are requested to spend some time reviewing it and get back to the list if you find something is not right or would like to solve your queries. This process is almost done (basics), but yes incomplete without your valuable review and input .
Where should we have Packman and openSUSE-Community.org? They aren't 100% part of the openSUSE project. Perhaps under subprojects?
What about asking them where they see themselves?
Is openSUSE-Community.org really a team consisting of individuals where others can join and help out - or is it more a service?
What about having Lizards under Infrastructure?
BTW, I have already added some icons. ;-)
Great, thanks! Andreas
Hello ,
On 05/04/2010 01:49 PM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
What about asking them where they see themselves?
Is openSUSE-Community.org really a team consisting of individuals where others can join and help out - or is it more a service?
Ok , I'll ask one of them and edit the page accordingly .
On 05/04/2010 01:54 PM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I suggest we start with what we have today and define what makes a team - and if those "qualify" as a team, let's add them.
Here's my shot at a definition: A team in the openSUSE context for me is an informal group of people that collaborate on a well-defined task. They should have a list of tasks that people can help with, some documented way for others can join, a team page in the wiki, and some kind of discussion going on - and this is a public project, not a Novell internal thing.
Sounds good , instead of 'us' adding them , It would be good to ask the interested ones add themselves if they fulfill the above commotions keeping in mind the layout and Proof of concept .
I'll mention all these in the announcement so that this small issue is clear to each and everyone (including the new comers) . So when ever one pops in , one can just show him/her the link and he/she should act as required .
Sorry for sending this twice , this one is Revised (errors rectified) .
On 05/05/2010 08:22 AM, Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
Hello ,
On 05/04/2010 01:49 PM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
What about asking them where they see themselves?
Is openSUSE-Community.org really a team consisting of individuals where others can join and help out - or is it more a service?
Ok , I'll ask one of them and edit the page accordingly .
On 05/04/2010 01:54 PM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I suggest we start with what we have today and define what makes a team - and if those "qualify" as a team, let's add them.
Here's my shot at a definition: A team in the openSUSE context for me is an informal group of people that collaborate on a well-defined task. They should have a list of tasks that people can help with, some documented way for others can join, a team page in the wiki, and some kind of discussion going on - and this is a public project, not a Novell internal thing.
Sounds good , instead of 'us' adding them , It would be good to ask the interested ones to add themselves - if they fulfill the above conditions (as mentioned by AJ) keeping in mind the layout and Proof of concept .
I'll mention all these in the announcement so that this small issue is clear to each and everyone (including the new comers) .When ever a new comer pops in , one can just show him the link (the announcement) and then he performs the task himself.
Announcement will be made later this week .
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Shayon Mukherjee