March 2009 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] Spokesperson Roadmap
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

Hello Mates, few weeks ago, the voting for a Name for the "Spokesperson" is over. The voting goes to "Ambrassador". But what is planned now? -- Sincereley yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Marketing Team openSUSE Build Service Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Project-Blog: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/saigkill Private-Blog: http://saschasbacktrace.blogspot.com DISCLAIMER: Please note that in accordance with the German law on data retention, information on every electronic information exchange with me is retained for a period of six months. http://www.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de http://www.ccc.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Geeko wants you! idea
by Alberto Passalacqua 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

Hi, as anticipated elsewhere I'm putting together a wiki page to collect information on where help and contributions are needed in openSUSE. The basic idea is to create a SINGLE page on the wiki where: * users can find information on where their help is more needed, and links to other pages where they can find more details on how to start working on a certain task. * developers and long term contributors can insert their needs in terms of people necessary to do something. In other words it is a sort of page to recruit volunteers, so that they don't get lost in the wiki and on mailing-lists. Ideally, when this page is ready, it should be linked in very visible places, like news.o.o and in some part of the wiki home page (a blinking neon light on it would help ;)), so that it can be easily found. Of course all suggestions to improve the idea, and all comments are welcome. Currently the page is here: http://en.opensuse.org/Geeko_wants_you! and it looks quite desert, because I just started to put it together. I will add more stuff soon, but for the areas where help is needed, I need your help! Regards, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: Rolling release repository for some upstream projects
by Daniel Mader 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

Hi, this has been discussed recently already ---and still is, I believe---, but in the light of the recent announcement, that openSUSE 11.2 is not exactly around next corner, the issue should be given more attention, I think. * Problem: In order to bridge the long time until the next release, many of the more advanced users are trying to find a way in order to enhance their KDE4 experience on 11.1. And let's be honest: No one in his right mind would prefer 4.1.3 over 4.2.1 if given the choice. Same goes for Gnome and XFCE I suspect, but I am not into those. * Workaround: So, the question would be how the openSUSE project will give those a home who look for stability (as in "works reliably", not "doesn't change version number") *and* improved features. * Current "solution": Installing KDE4 from factory is not exactly an option for productive systems (even at home), since it is used for the development of upcoming releases. Packages change too often, and small features working today break tomorrow. * Better solution: Thus, instead of providing a better (i.e. more useable and reliable) factory release, I'd vote for a new, prominently placed repository which simply provides packaged versions of certain upstream projects: KDE4, Gnome and XFCE should definitely be enough in order to cover 95% of the users. * Objections, criticisms: There should be no extra work spent with patching, since those repos would contain pretty much plain vanilla upstream plus the usual branding. Also, given e.g. KDE and Gnome release cycles, the packaging/updating of the repo should happen only once every month, at the most. Announcements for such updates should appear in news.opensuse.org, which would surely increase the attention paid to that site, too. * Comparison with competing projects/distributions: This service is not so outstanding as it may sound: both Fedora and Mandriva (semi-)officially provide updated packages for KDE 4.2 even when they initially delivered 4.1.x, while openSUSE 11.x only offers updates from Factory, which I would never propose here in my office and lab environment, other than for myself. * Impact on user base and reputation: So, I feel that this would greatly improve our community orientation and would meet the wishes and requirements of a very important and big part of the openSUSE users, namely early adopters and the curious ones. Hobbyists, quite simple. The rest is using Windows and MacOS, anyway, or enterprise versions. Providing an easy-to-find rolling-release repository and package the upstream major and important minor releases for at least the most important desktop environments shouldn't be impossible. If it is, we really have a bad packaging concept... http://en.opensuse.org/BrainStorming_Prague/Way_we_do_packaging_is_ineffect… Sorry in advance for this long email. My excuse is that it just shows how much I think that this is important and vital for keeping and growing our user base. Best regards from Freiburg, Daniel Mader -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Original Contributions
by Kevin Dupuy 08 Mar '09

08 Mar '09

This is a hastily-written and underthought idea, but team idea came when I was reading Coolo's letter on the proposed schedule. I, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, would like to see more features and apps developed here at openSUSE. It would be awesome to be able to read the 11.2 feature tour and read about some new innovative stuff that we've developed. In openSUSE 10.2 and 10.3, there were several original features developed, however much of those actually came out of SLED. Since then, we've mainly been implementing upstream. Nothing wrong with that, but it would be nice to do some more innovation. So here's my idea: push users to talk about features they want to see, and add them somewhere (The GNOME Team has an Idea page, how about KDE?); go through those pages, add the good ideas to openFATE, and interested developers can start working on them. As I said, this was a quick idea, so let's hear everyone's comments and suggestions :-) -- Sent from Kevin Yeaux's mobile device. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Gearing Up for Google Summer of Code
by Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 07 Mar '09

07 Mar '09

The openSUSE Project is looking for a few good mentors for the Google Summer of Code[1] 2009! The openSUSE Project was a mentoring organization last year, and we're hoping to participate again in 2009. Organization signup starts next week[2], and prospective mentors can sign up next week as well. Signup starts March 9th[3] at 19:00 UTC/12:00 PST and ends March 13th at 19:00 UTC/12:00 PST. Accepted organizations will be announced on March 18th, and there's a week (March 18 through 23) for organizations and students to meet and discuss. The student application period begins March 23rd, and ends April 3rd. All of the dates are on the Google SoC FAQ and we'll be sending out announcements as each of the important dates approach. Right now, we're gathering ideas for the Summer of Code on the openSUSE wiki[4]. (Thanks to Lukas Ocilka, Stanislav Visnovsky, and Jiri Srain[5] for starting this!) Feel free to add your own ideas or help revise the existing ideas. Also, if you're interested in helping out, please add your name[6] to the openSUSE GSoC '09 page. In addition to mentors (and students...) we'll need help finding mentors, reviewing GSoC applications, facilitating communication during GSoC, and so forth. (Again, see the wiki!) If you have questions about openSUSE and GSoC, ask on the opensuse-project list. [1]: http://code.google.com/soc/ [2]: http://preview.tinyurl.com/cgha8l [3]: http://en.opensuse.org/Summer_of_Code_2009#Important_dates [4]: http://en.opensuse.org/Summer_of_Code_2009#Ideas [5]: http://preview.tinyurl.com/dx4qe9 [6]: http://en.opensuse.org/Summer_of_Code_2009#Organization -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net> openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org Blogs: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community | http://www.dissociatedpress.net Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb http://identi.ca/group/opensuse/members -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Questions about the Trademark Guidelines for openSUSE
by Lars Vogdt 06 Mar '09

06 Mar '09

Dear openSUSE-Project, dear "Contact Information" (permission(a)novell.com) With the release of the first openSUSE Trademark Guidelines [1], we see the big advantage to get the problem around the covered topics addressed. Thank you very much! We, the openSUSE-Education project, are a small community driven project aiming to optimize openSUSE for use at universities and schools as well as for education usage by schoolers or students. We've created "Add-on" Medias containing additional applications for already released openSUSE distributions. We've also created some manuals and HowTos (in the openSUSE-Wiki[2] and as PDF[3]) describing how to add the Add-on Media to an installed openSUSE distribution and use the additional software. Our repository is hosted by a server available under the URL www.opensuse-education.org. Regarding to your Trademark Guidelines, we've the following (permission) questions: 1) Are we allowed to use the Name "openSUSE-Education" as Project name? Note: our Add-on Media is called "openSUSE-Education 1.0 for openSUSE $version" 2) Are we allowed to use the domain opensuse-education.org ? Note: the homepage already contains a pointer that we're a community driven project. 3) Are we allowed to use any openSUSE Logos|Mark on our project homepage and documentation/presentations? 5) Are we allowed to use a modified form of the openSUSE-Logo ? Currently, we've * a small Gecko with a doctoral cap on his head [4] * a full Gecko with this head and the "logotype" openSUSE-Education 6) Are we allowed to use our current CD-Cover for the Add-on Media as it contains some "openSUSE" words in it? 7) Is it this right: we can create an installable openSUSE Media containing our own addtiional applications - but we have to remove all openSUSE Marks from it. ? Looking forward to your reply. With kind regards, Lars (on behalf of the openSUSE-Education Team) -- [1]: http://news.opensuse.org/2009/03/02/opensuse-trademark-guidelines-released/ [2]: http://en.opensuse.org/Education [3]: http://www.opensuse-education.org/download/repos/ [4]: http://www.opensuse-education.org/themes/OSS-Edu/images/opensuse-education.… [5]: http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/1/1f/Edu-suse_cd.png -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Reminder: openSUSE Project Meeting March 11, 2009 at 17:00 UTC
by Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 05 Mar '09

05 Mar '09

The next openSUSE Project meeting will be Wednesday, March 11th, at 17:00 UTC on Freenode. Again that's: 2009-03-11 17:00 UTC See all the timezones here: http://is.gd/lZgv. This is going to be a fairly substantial meeting, so if you can attend please do so! We'll be discussin the latest developments in and around openSUSE. Please add your topics to the meeting wiki page at: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Project_Meeting_2009-03-11 Please add topics as soon as possible. Also, if you have questions for the meeting, but can't attend (we know that the meeting times can't work for everyone) please add them to the agenda as well. For more on IRC meetings, see: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About As always, we meet in #opensuse-project on Freenode. Fire up your favorite IRC client and head over to #opensuse-project. Not familiar with IRC? A good overview can be found at http://www.irchelp.org/. This site is not affiliated with openSUSE. For more information on Freenode, see http://freenode.net/. Please spread the word! Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net> openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org Blogs: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community | http://www.dissociatedpress.net Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb http://identi.ca/group/opensuse/members -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE at Chemnitzer Linux-Tage, March 14/15
by Michael Loeffler 05 Mar '09

05 Mar '09

[english version below] Moin, die Chemnitzer Linux-Tage [1] finden am 14./15. März an der TU in Chemnitz statt und das openSUSE Projekt ist wieder mit dabei. Wir haben einen Stand [2] und werden Samstag 15 Uhr Interessantes zum Projekt präsentieren [3]. Am Stand selbst gibt's natürlich Wissenswertes um das Projekt, die Distribution und den openSUSE Build Service. Wir hoffen viele Menschen aus der Community zu treffen und freuen uns, wenn wir noch Unterstützung am Stand bekommen. Wer Interesse hat, bitte [4] hier eintragen. Gruß Michael [1] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2009/info/index.html [2] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2009/live/plan.html [3] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2009/vortraege/plan.html [4] http://de.opensuse.org/ChemnitzerLinux-Tage Moin, the openSUSE project will be present at Chemnitzer Linux-Tage [1] with a booth [2] and one presentation [3] about the project on Saturday March 14, 3pm. At the booth you'll meet some openSUSE people showing you the latest stuff around the distribution, the project and the openSUSE Build Service. We hope to see many community people and having good conversation. Anybody wants to help at the booth? That would be very much appreciated. Please go to [4] to let us know who you are and when you're available. Best Michael [1] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2009/info/index_en.html [2] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2009/live/plan_en.html [3] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2009/vortraege/plan_en.html [4] http://en.opensuse.org/ChemnitzerLinux-Tage -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Proposal for a community based testing team
by Alberto Passalacqua 05 Mar '09

05 Mar '09

Hello, I have thought for quite some time to the idea of building a community-based openSUSE testing team, and this seems to be the right time to discuss of it. The main idea is to create a group of stable testers to deeply test openSUSE functionalities on their machines, in order to catch annoying bugs earlier in the development stages, allowing the fixes to be done and tested again in a more timely and less rushed manner. It won't be easy, we need motivated volunteers and we have a lot to learn to do it the right way, but I think it is worth the effort, if we want to keep faith to the guiding principles, which states openSUSE aims to be "the most usable Linux distribution" (and not the most cutting edge one!). I summed up the motivations, a short problem analysis about the current status quo, and some proposal of solution in the attached slides so you can comment them (thanks suseROCKs for the slide template). All suggestions (and volunteers) are more than welcome, as well as some help from Novell people currently involved in testing/quality assurance. As I said we need to learn. ;-) With kind regards, Alberto

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[opensuse-project] Apache2 changed?
by James Tremblay aka SLEducator 05 Mar '09

05 Mar '09

Hey guys I was wondering, is it a bug or just the way it is that when we ask YaST to install AMP we no longer get the "It Works" page? Maybe we should think about a default "Welcome to openSUSE's implimentation of Apache2" page -- James Tremblay openSIS Product Specialist http://www.os4ed.com mail james "AT" os4ed.com CNE 3,4,5 MCSE w2k CLE in training Registered Linux user #440182 http://en.opensuse.org/education -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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