[opensuse-project] Original Contributions

This is a hastily-written and underthought idea, but team idea came when I was reading Coolo's letter on the proposed schedule. I, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, would like to see more features and apps developed here at openSUSE. It would be awesome to be able to read the 11.2 feature tour and read about some new innovative stuff that we've developed. In openSUSE 10.2 and 10.3, there were several original features developed, however much of those actually came out of SLED. Since then, we've mainly been implementing upstream. Nothing wrong with that, but it would be nice to do some more innovation. So here's my idea: push users to talk about features they want to see, and add them somewhere (The GNOME Team has an Idea page, how about KDE?); go through those pages, add the good ideas to openFATE, and interested developers can start working on them. As I said, this was a quick idea, so let's hear everyone's comments and suggestions :-) -- Sent from Kevin Yeaux's mobile device. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

2009/3/5 Kevin Dupuy <kevin.dupuy@opensuse.org>:
This is a hastily-written and underthought idea, but team idea came when I was reading Coolo's letter on the proposed schedule. I, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, would like to see more features and apps developed here at openSUSE. It would be awesome to be able to read the 11.2 feature tour and read about some new innovative stuff that we've developed.
In openSUSE 10.2 and 10.3, there were several original features developed, however much of those actually came out of SLED. Since then, we've mainly been implementing upstream. Nothing wrong with that, but it would be nice to do some more innovation.
So here's my idea: push users to talk about features they want to see, and add them somewhere (The GNOME Team has an Idea page, how about KDE?); go through those pages, add the good ideas to openFATE, and interested developers can start working on them.
As I said, this was a quick idea, so let's hear everyone's comments and suggestions :-)
Great idea! But who will implement? "Users", like me, do not have the skills to implement, but I do know what I would like to have :-) We have openFATE, can that be used in your idea? Birger -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Il giorno gio, 05/03/2009 alle 11.06 -0600, Kevin Dupuy ha scritto:
This is a hastily-written and underthought idea, but team idea came when I was reading Coolo's letter on the proposed schedule. I, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, would like to see more features and apps developed here at openSUSE. It would be awesome to be able to read the 11.2 feature tour and read about some new innovative stuff that we've developed.
Actually I think users are _tired_ to see _a lot_ of new stuff that doesn't work or works only in part, so for 11.2 I hope in something else than new features. I hope in something that works, even if exactly with the same features provided upstream.
In openSUSE 10.2 and 10.3, there were several original features developed, however much of those actually came out of SLED. Since then, we've mainly been implementing upstream. Nothing wrong with that, but it would be nice to do some more innovation.
It would be nice, but from what I hear we already lack of resources for various tasks. Adding new things to do before organizing the community a bit better, is, in my opinion, pushing things.
So here's my idea: push users to talk about features they want to see, and add them somewhere (The GNOME Team has an Idea page, how about KDE?); go through those pages, add the good ideas to openFATE, and interested developers can start working on them.
I agree with this, as long as it doesn't become a "let's add something just to show we change things", but it becomes a long term project. On the short run I would really prefer to concentrate _all_ the efforts in making a good release and in making the community grow and consolidate, even if this means less innovation for one or two release cycles. Hint: Original idea and contributions don't necessarily are applications and tools. Everything that improves the distribution and the community, making users and developers life easier and better is good ;-) With kind regard, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

2009/3/5 Alberto Passalacqua <alberto.passalacqua@tin.it>:
Il giorno gio, 05/03/2009 alle 11.06 -0600, Kevin Dupuy ha scritto:
This is a hastily-written and underthought idea, but team idea came when I was reading Coolo's letter on the proposed schedule. I, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, would like to see more features and apps developed here at openSUSE. It would be awesome to be able to read the 11.2 feature tour and read about some new innovative stuff that we've developed.
Actually I think users are _tired_ to see _a lot_ of new stuff that doesn't work or works only in part, so for 11.2 I hope in something else than new features. I hope in something that works, even if exactly with the same features provided upstream.
And some proposal was mentioned on the BrainStorming http://en.opensuse.org/BrainStorming_Prague#Features_are_not_known.2C_they_a...... -- S pozdravom/best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Kevin Dupuy escribió: . Since then,
we've mainly been implementing upstream. Nothing wrong with that, but it would be nice to do some more innovation.
Ok, Kevin, do you have any suggestion on how, and specially WHO will do all this "innovation" ? -- "If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed" -George Carlin (1937-2008) Cristian Rodríguez R. Software Developer Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/

why not just develop a susestorm.org website like ubuntustorm or blenderstorm that way users can add their ideas quickly and easily and vote on other ideas that come up so you get a good idea of what users want On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 00:30 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Kevin Dupuy escribió: . Since then,
we've mainly been implementing upstream. Nothing wrong with that, but it would be nice to do some more innovation.
Ok, Kevin, do you have any suggestion on how, and specially WHO will do all this "innovation" ?
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hum... something like features.opensuse.org ? On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Michael Fox <mfoxdogg@gmail.com> wrote:
why not just develop a susestorm.org website like ubuntustorm or blenderstorm that way users can add their ideas quickly and easily and vote on other ideas that come up so you get a good idea of what users want
On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 00:30 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Kevin Dupuy escribió: . Since then,
we've mainly been implementing upstream. Nothing wrong with that, but it would be nice to do some more innovation.
Ok, Kevin, do you have any suggestion on how, and specially WHO will do all this "innovation" ?
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Rémy Marquis wrote:
hum... something like features.opensuse.org ?
Exactly! We don't need another website. We need to start using existing ones - openFATE already has voting and other features needed to implement this. -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o Package Maintainer Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Am Friday 06 March 2009 05:33:54 schrieb Michael Fox:
why not just develop a susestorm.org website like ubuntustorm or blenderstorm that way users can add their ideas quickly and easily and vote on other ideas that come up so you get a good idea of what users
That's not exactly answering the WHO. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Fredag 06 marts 2009 08:33:49 skrev Stephan Kulow:
Am Friday 06 March 2009 05:33:54 schrieb Michael Fox:
why not just develop a susestorm.org website like ubuntustorm or blenderstorm that way users can add their ideas quickly and easily and vote on other ideas that come up so you get a good idea of what users
That's not exactly answering the WHO.
How about GSoC students? ;-) Then we just need to find out who can/will mentor... and who will maintain the stuff in the long run... and also what these innovations are actually supposed to be. Like Alberto I think it's time to consolidate, after introducing kde4, satsolver and rewriting all the major yast modules, the last thing I want is more immature stuff. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
participants (10)
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Alberto Passalacqua
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Birger Kollstrand
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Cristian Rodríguez
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Kevin Dupuy
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Martin Schlander
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Michael Fox
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Pavol Rusnak
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Rastislav Krupanský
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Rémy Marquis
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Stephan Kulow