January 2009 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] openSUSE 11.2 schedule
by Michael Loeffler 15 Mar '09

15 Mar '09

Moin, openSUSE 11.1 is almost out of the door and we (coolo, aj, zonker and myself) had some discussion about the release date for openSUSE 11.2. First we talked about July '09 release to come close to an 8 months release cycle. But KDE 4.3 is scheduled for release on June 30th and probably an OpenOffice.org release will be out end of June as well - both wouldn't make it into a July openSUSE 11.2. Therfor we're now thinking about a September release. Beside of getting the most current OpenOffice and KDE in thhis would even have one additional upside. It probably would be just in front of our openSUSE conference. So the conference could be used for very a focused openSUSE 11.3 planning. But it has its downside as well. Finalization of the release would happen during the summer holiday season. To address this we we added one Beta to stretch the development time a bit. Here's what we're talking about: 2009-02-05 openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 2009-03-05 openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 1 2009-04-02 openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 2 2009-04-30 openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 3 2009-05-28 openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 4 2009-06-25 openSUSE 11.2 Beta 1 2009-07-09 openSUSE 11.2 Beta 2 2009-07-24 openSUSE 11.2 Beta 3 2009-08-06 openSUSE 11.2 Beta 4 2009-08-20 openSUSE 11.2 RC1 2009-09-03 openSUSE 11.2 GM 2009-09-10 openSUSE 11.2 Public Release Events to consider March 3-8 CeBIT March 8-13 BrainShare June 24-27 LinuxTag June 3-11 Akademy/Guadec Sept openSUSE conference (mid of sept) Sept Plumbers conference (around Sept 20-25) Let us know what you're thinking about this. Best M -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2009/1/29)
by Rodrigo Moya 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

11.2 features discussion • New organization decided: ∘ http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas will be a place for putting wild ideas, and when well thought and documented, will be moved to openFATE (or just Bugzilla?) ∘ 11.1 and 11.2 pages have been merged into http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas please review and remove already implemented features Packaging day • Next Thursday, to package GNOME 2.25.* Packaging • eel integrated in nautilus 2.25, so remove • farsight to be removed (farsight2 replaces it) • glade-2 (move to contrib?) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Accessing packages sources without any account
by Vincent Untz 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

Hi, I know it was discussed at some point, but is there some progress on publishing the sources of the packages, browsable in an easy way, outside of the build service? (so that people can access them, especially the patches without having an account) If no, is there anyway I can help with that? It's really important for upstream to be able to browse the patches, to see what's going on. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2009/1/22)
by Rodrigo Moya 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

11.2 planning ∘ http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas/11.2 ∘ Use this page to add any ideas, and when formed a little bit, move to openFATE ∘ AI: everyone review 11.1 ideas page (http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas/11.1) and move unfinished tasks to 11.2 page Policy bugs ∘ Plan is to quickly discuss a few bugs that would take hours to discuss on the mailing list ∘ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462077 -> remove patch ∘ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460963 -> WONTFIX, PolicyKit-based solutions will solve this ∘ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=407286 -> use openSUSE icon for both main menu and menu bar applet ∘ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 -> provide our own branding for the menu, to get no submenus ∘ For bugs to be discussed in future meetings, mail vuntz(a)novell.com with the bug # Discuss repo names ∘ GNOME:Stable and G:Unstable created ∘ G:S:2.24 will contain GNOME 2.24.x from openSUSE:11.1, and G:S will point to that, then to G:S:2.26 once released, and so on ∘ G:U will be created from G:Factory as soon as the GNOME:Factory/GNOME:Factory:Next merge is done ∘ Stable release updates (updates to CD/DVD versions) available right now in several separated repos, would be great to have 1 meta-repo that links to the latest for a released distro (Contrib?) -> move discussion to opensuse-project ML ∘ AI: captain_magnus to populate G:S:2.24 Community building ∘ GNOME release days as packaging days (next is Feb 4th) ∘ Bug triage (P5 bugs prioritization) (http://tinyurl.com/cxknu3) can be done by anyone, specially with JP's bug triaging guide FOSDEM ∘ Send a photo of yourself to vuntz(a)novell.com for a talk about the opensuse-GNOME team Next meeting (Jan 29th) ∘ 11.2 features discussion ∘ Having a packaging day soon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Error in 64 bit (x86-64) version of x11-video-fglrxG01-8.561-1.1 for openSuSE 11.1
by Joop Boonen 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

All, This might help people who want/need to use the closed source driver in openSuSE 11.1 64. I see the following error in /var/log/Xorg.0.log <quote> drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports PCI:3:0:0 (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx _dri.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32) (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering (II) fglrx(0): Enable the clock gating! </quote> The problem is that it tries to use the 32 libs library in stead of the 64 bits. I solved the problem by: mv /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so.org ln -s /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so Regards, Joop. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] A couple mailing list issues
by Eric Springer 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but how come emails sent don't have the "reply-to: <ml>@opensuse.org" header? OS is the only mailing list I've used without it -- and I'm sure I can't be the only one who accidentally sends off replies to person rather than list. And while on the topic of mailing lists, with the opensuse-features list for openfate -- can we stop firing off emails everytime someone adds themselves to the "interested: " part? I can't imagine anyone actually wants to be notified in this event. I want to read comments and new feature ideas, but checking new messages to only find it's a "+1 person interested" 99% of the time is frustrating. Regards, Eric. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Minutes from Board meeting on Dec 10
by Michael Loeffler 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Happy new year to all of you. And sorry for the delay of the meeting minutes. Best Michael openSUSE Board Meeting Minutes Dec 10th, 8pm - 10:20pm CET Participants: Federico Mena Quintero (federico1) Hendrik Vogelsang (henne) Michael Löffler (michl) Bryen Yunashko (suseROCKs) Pascal Bleser (yaloki) Joe Brockmeier (zonker), for the first hour *Advisory Board (zonker) Proposal get reviewd by Novell's lawyers and then up to the project mailing list *Awarding good people We should award outstanding contributors and good poeple Everybody agreed, just with what and how to find all valuable contributors? *openSUSE conference (zonker) probably September '09 in the Nuremberg area Zonker clarified that all openSUSE talks will be public. But there migth be a few Novell internal talks (eg. company processes) *FOSDEM - We should have a talk with the Board, kind of or meet and great (in our dev room) - there is probably an open source project track where openSUSE would fit to participate -> best to contact mlasars on that (AI: yaloki) *Creation of thoughts page Done in the Board wiki *Board blog Some feel the board should have its own blog or a seperate channel to communicate. As spotlight.opensuse.org already exists its kind of a simple task to enlarge this to the openSUSE Board. An zonker is not lonely anmore. Everybody agreed to do so. AI: henne to make this happen *Board's public presence To increase Board's presence in the community and visibility in the public we agreed on having a public Board Meeting in January together with the project meeting Board articles Rotate each board member to write an article on a topic the board agrees to speak to the public on. Bryen writes up an review 2008, the rest will review and should be sent out soon Old AIs *AI henne, post meeting logs to board wiki Henne had an issue and didn't do it but will mail them around * michl to write thank you letter letter written but not sent out, waiting for the flash lights * Members approval 46 queued up again, should be down to 0 latest end of the month We'll meet on Dec 17th to go through them *Contrib repo http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:Contrib This turned out in a long, constructive discussion. Meanwhile already announced, http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/17/get-going/ Next meeting Jan 14th - a public one with the project meeting -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Creating opensuse-performance list
by Hans Petter Jansson 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hi, I'd like for a new topic mailing list, "opensuse-performance", to be created. We'll use it to coordinate our work towards making openSUSE boot faster. See http://en.opensuse.org/Boottime/Boot_time for more info. -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Ad: [opensuse-project] Novell´s plans for the comming releases
by birger.kollstrand＠googlemail.com 19 Jan '09

19 Jan '09

2009/1/19, Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb(a)suse.de>: > On 2009-01-16T16:22:25, Birger Kollstrand <birger.kollstrand(a)googlemail.com> > wrote: > >> There is an overwhelming desire to create different implementations of >> the same problem. > > This is an apparently necessary step before convergence can happen; the > community tends to have the resources to explore many (subtly) different > technical/social/organizational directions at once before converging. > That is actually one of the strengths. Yes I agree, but I also belive that a structured unit like a company can help out in the process of actually getting a convergence. Either by supporting directly with development resources or by trying to lead the community by asking different teams to work together. I do not believe many projects would take it badly if a leading person from openSUSE-Novell asked if there where any common ground that wold gain all. Or simply by discussing with community projects that this and that functionality would be a benefit for openSUSE? cu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Novell´s plans for the comming releases
by Birger Kollstrand 19 Jan '09

19 Jan '09

Hi, I tried my luck on the factory list with asking about the plans, goals and dreams :-) for the comming releases. Seen from Novell´s point of view. Not much came of that unfortunately. What I´m looking for is much more than which upgrade upgraded desktop environment is going in. What use cases does Novell want to reach? What should the user be able to do with SUSE? - Portability/Laptop/Nettbooks and so on - Connectivity of devices - Support for syncronizing devices - Home server setup, mediaserver, DNLA, UpnP, file , print and so on. All the nice stuff that needs to be made with KDE this or that and Gnome what ever. It would be really good if Novell can take a user stand and not a developer stand in the comming project. And with user , I´m thinking of the everyday user that does not even know what Linux is. The most important thing is not which desktop environment version is available, but what an everyday user can do with it. So pleeeeease somebody, enlighten me :-) Is there any strategy available? Kind regards, Birger

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