I see at least one situation where it should be fine to have some use
of the membership opensuse mail.
today I noticed a small dependency problem I could fix myself on a
*packman* package
I couldn't report it to the packaging list, I'm not subscribed and
don't want to subscribe only for that.
I don't think bugzilla is made for packman, even if it could be a good
idea to open it to them :-)
so I mailed to opensuse list, but the mail may be unnoticed
that is to say, why couldn't we open with write access all the
opensuse lists for @opensuse.org e-mails, without subscribe?
of course it should need a little more than checking the return
e-mail, some sort of membership check, I don't know if it's simple to do?
jdd
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On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Magnus Boman wrote:
>> Can a Novell employee vote against his employer? to be fired?
> Yes, a Novell employee can go against his employer and no, I don't
> think they will be fired for it. I can not guarantee that off course.
When there is a vote like this, Novell employees are supposed to
vote according to the best of their knowledge. As are those not
employed by Novell!
I'm really not sure what "going against his employer" means in this
context. It's not that there is this Mrs. Eve L. Novell sitting in a
dungeon in Nürnberg/Provo/Waltham who controls all of us like string
puppets. As with any large organization, there are many parties, often
with different points of view or at least facets. The majority of those
actually relevant communicate here in the open with the community or are
directly connected with those of us who are. And as Coolo or Michl or
anybody else in AJ's or my team can surely attest, making openSUSE
successful is an explicit objective everyone has received for this
year! So, the only way to go against his or her employer would be
to actively hurt openSUSE. Not very likely, uhmm? :-)
> So should all non-Novell employees have to disclose where they work,
> what interest their employer might have in openSUSE, SLE or anything
> else that the board might be able to influence?
For candidates I would expect this, but certainly not for voters. Very
fair point, Magnus.
"Hi, my name is Bill. I made a bit of money in software during the last
two decades, but now I am unemployed. I have experience serving on the
board of my previous company and understand your users have many windows
which I have a long history with, so with Open Source on the uptake, how
about if I serve on the openSUSE board as an independent candidate?"
Gerald
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Hello,
for how long will there be support for 10.1 after the release of 11.0?
Background: we are using SuSE Linux for more than 10 years on several
machines with good success. We usually update every two years. Now we
want to update from 10.1 to 11.0. This requires a least a couple of
weeks of support for 10.1 after the release of 11.0. According to
OpenSUSE.org this is not forseen. :-(
Best regards
Josef G. Bauer
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Hi folks
We (the board) would like to start working on a proposal for organising
the elections of the next board.
As a first step, and also because we want it to be an open and
transparent process, we'd like to hear about ideas and recommendations
about how we should do that.
There are obviously a few gotchas with the process for elections.
First of all, we don't want to give the impression the board is
arranging things to re-elect itself. We most probably won't have a
totally bullet proof process wrt that, but we'll do our best weighing
what's feasible (and reasonable). As I wrote a few times before, I'm
afraid there is a certain amount of trust that has to be put in our
hands, as we don't want the process to be overly complicated either.
Secondly, we do think that members should have a higher weight, as they
have signed the Guiding Principles and are recognized as active
contributors. Maybe we should even restrict the right to vote to
"official members". To be discussed.
And last but not least, here are a few immutable aspects, as defined in
the Guiding Principles [1]:
* we shall vote to elect 4 board members
* 2 of them must be community members (i.e. not Novell employees)
* 2 of them must be Novell employees
* the chair is a Novell employee and appointed by Novell
[1] http://en.opensuse.org/Guiding_Principles#Governance
So please start shooting ideas, brainstorming, thinking out loud.
The key questions are:
* Who can vote ?
* Who can we vote for ?
* How long should the voting period be ?
* How should elections work ? (from an organisational and technical POV)
And please also keep in mind we should aim for a process that is simple,
fair, and realistic (in terms of implementation).
We shall collect that information and map/reduce it into something
practicable as well as add our own ideas. The result of that process
will be published and discussed here, as well as on IRC meetings.
The current plan is to make a public board IRC meeting, possibly on
Monday 17th, or the week thereafter if we don't have enough results
yet -- we'll announce it on this list accordingly.
The process should be driven by everyone, and hence, we're looking
forward to your ideas :)
PS: for the sake of readability, please
- - keep the same email thread
- - don't hijack the thread with off-topic discussions
- - use proper email quoting and bottom-posting
Thanks for reading and for your ideas/feedback.
cheers
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Hello,
I am putting together a Demo for OpenSUSE and SLES for a Var meeting in
April. HP is providing the Hardware. They have requested for me to give
them info on the server's. They have requested part numbers. A quick
search of the HP site, did not give me which server's were know to work
with SUSE Linux or OpenSUSE. Does anyone know which Server's are the best
for Showing of Novell's version of Linux?
Thanks,
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Hi,
A few months ago, I asked a set of questions on development mailing
lists of a few GNU/Linux distributions. This resulted in very
interesting discussions. As promised back then, all the answers from all
distros I contacted can be read at [0] (on the web) or [1] (as an mbox
file).
[0] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/distributions/
[1] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/distributions/distributions.mbox.gz
Also, Freedesktop.org kindly agreed to host a mailing list to ease
discussions between distributions, and act as a central point of
contact. You can subscribe on [2], and post to
distributions(a)lists.freedesktop.org.
[2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/distributions
This mailing list is for people involved (or interested) in the
development of distributions. Questions that are on-topic are both
technical and social/organizational issues, like:
- How do you achieve graphical boot in your distro? Do you use some kind
of dependancy-based or events-based boot?
- How do you package both ruby 1.8, ruby 1.9 and jruby, or handle KDE vs
KDE4?
- Do you use a system that gives a limited set of rights to new
contributors?
Off-topic stuff obviously include trolling about which distribution is
the best one, or user support.
Don't hesitate to forward this mail to all interested parties. Let's
make this mailing list something useful together!
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> I think your new functionality works great as I've tried it out and it's
> good from a functionality standpoint. However, some suggestions:
I appreciate them, Cc-ing the list for everyone's info...
> I was hesitant to try out the tool at first because I was
> afraid I'd be blocking it out for everyone.
> Instead, I suggest using the word "collapse."
Collapse is great for techies (and I appreciate the main audience for
the Planet is techies but not the only one) so I've changed it to "Hide"
and "Show"
> The second suggestion I have, the tool button itself is very tiny. This
Yeah, to match the feed icon and the bullet icon in lists
> doesn't help low-vision users (like me and umm older folks who need
> glasses.)
Good point
> Even with enlargement tools, it doesn't really make the icon
> any bigger. If I can make a suggestion, put text just before that icon
> box "Collapse this feed." There's room for it and I don't think it
> would be too obtrusive to the style of your layout.
Whether there's room depends on the length of people's post titles.
What I've done is made it a tooltip which is a good compromise I think.
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As of the 12:00GMT update on Planet SUSE today, readers of the
web-browser editions (i.e. those who access it directly, not via RSS
feeds) will be able to block feeds which do not interest them.
The blocked feeds will still be visible in both the blog list and the
main body but their content will not be visible - allowing the reading
of individual entries that look interesting.
I think this functionality in this form is unique to Planet SUSE among
the planet sites and, once the template work used has been tidied up, it
will be fed upstream to the main Planet project.
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