June 2007 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] Handling GPT disk labels
by Silviu Marin-Caea 07 Jul '07

07 Jul '07

GPT disk-labels (partition tables) are a new type of disk-labels that don't have the limitations of the ms-dos partition table. The ms-dos partition table is what almost everybody uses right now. The most notable of the ms-dos partition table limitations is the 2 TB limit for a partition. We are not that far away from this kind of capacity on the desktop. To properly handle GPT disk labels, we need a tool that can write them (parted) and a boot manager that understands them (grub2). Luckily, the filesystem limits are a little farther. Can this be considered for inclusion in 10.3? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Announcing Hack Week
by Nat Friedman 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hi everyone, At Novell we've been planning a special internal event that will run this week, from June 25th to 29th. We're calling it Hack Week. During Hack Week, our entire Linux engineering team -- hundreds of people -- will be working on whatever Linux or open source projects interest them. Everyone will work alone or in teams, on existing open source projects or new ideas of their own. No one will tell them what or what not to do -- it's a free week for free hacking, driven by individual passion. To make it easier for our hackers to find and publicize their projects, we've created an Idea Pool web site where we've all spent the last couple of weeks sharing ideas and finding collaborators. This web site is open to the public here: http://idea.opensuse.org/ Although this is a Novell event, we're running it with full transparency. You'll be able to follow our progress and projects on the Idea Pool web site, either with the blog on the front page where we'll post videos from our seven main engineering sites[1], or by watching individual project pages. We invite you to participate where you can. If you'd like to help with a project, feel free to add a comment to the discussion section of the page and volunteer your support. We hope that you'll at least enjoy watching Hack Week progress. If it is successful, we hope to run it again sometime soon, with even more participation from the community. If you're interested in following along, you might check the following sites first: - Hack Week Overview: http://idea.opensuse.org/content/hackweek - Tags: http://idea.opensuse.org/content/blog/welcome-to-the-idea-pool - Idea Pool code of conduct: http://idea.opensuse.org/content/etiquette - Flickr pool: http://www.flickr.com/groups/hackweek/pool/ During the week, we'll use the channel #opensuse-hackweek on irc.freenode.net for general discussion (project-specific discussion will find its own venue). Hope to see you there! Happy hacking, Nat [1] Beijing, Bangalore, Prague, Nuernberg, Boston, Provo, Portland are the main sites --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.
by Francis Giannaros 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

On 6/21/07, Andrew Dorney <linuxnoob(a)wi.rr.com> wrote: > Not to rush anyone/anything... > > ...but I can't seem to find the WIKI page on either opensuse.org or > opensuse-community.org, and we're only 3-4 days out from the 23rd. > > I'll gladly post this information to suseforums.net, > suselinuxsupport.de, and opensuse.us, but I'd need something more than > "Hey, OpenSUSE is having a bugday." if I'm going to post the news. > Something like a place and time. *cough* Apologies again to everyone but it looks like this weekend isn't going to be possible. Several key people have said they can't make it on the weekend, and something has come up so I'm catching a flight on Saturday, and hence wouldn't have any time on the Sunday too. It's been one bad weekend after another unfortunately, which is a real shame since this is something that could be really beneficial. Nevertheless we're all intent on certainly getting bug days up-and-running eventually despite things, so hopefully in the future we'll have a definitive date which we can fully announce. I'd rather not say "next weekend for now", but some time soon.. Of course it will be proposed on this list before any big announcement comes. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] 10.3 Alpha5 ISO Metalinks / DTA Firefox extension
by albryan＠comcast.net 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

A few questions first: Will there be official builds of aria2? Will there be official .metalinks? For the brave, nightly builds of DownThemAll!, a Firefox extension, support Metalink - mirrors & full file checksums, no download repairs yet. (Expect a beta in a few weeks). In this screenshot, the icon/logo, description, publisher, license, OS/arch, & other info are taken from the metalink. Some cool possibilities. http://code.downthemall.net/maierman/metaselect4.png http://bugs.code.downthemall.net/trac/wiki/NightlyBuilds .metalinks for 10.3 Alpha5 are at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/opensuse/ Collection metalinks which contain CD1-6 in a single metalink are at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/opensuse/collections/ All .metalinks contain repair info (chunk checksums). I've updated the wiki. aria2 (RPMs graciously provided at http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=/Network/aria2 ) can autocorrect/repair metalink downloads if they contain chunk checksums. Basically, your finished download should have no errors when it's done, similar to rsync and BitTorrent downloads. And it should be pretty fast (depending on your connection speed) by using multiple mirrors. -- (( Anthony Bryan ... Metalink [ http://www.metalinker.org ] )) Easier, More Reliable, Self Healing Downloads --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Results of survey on use of proprietary software in openSUSE
by Michael Loeffler 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

Hi, the survey we did on proprietary software can be found here: http://en.opensuse.org/UX#Surveys It shows that we ship on the media some software which is hardly used (e.g. PlanMaker, SEPsesam etc.). Software which is hardly used we don't neet to ship on our media. Therfor my suggestion is to drop some software totally and offer some software only via ftp. To be discussed on opensuse-project. Best Michael PS: The question on TexLive was confusing. TexLive is open source but we wanted to know the use of it as it needs meanwhile so much space. -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nuremberg SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.
by Francis Giannaros 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

On 6/4/07, Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> wrote: > > So, what needs to be done to get this going (besides announcing a day)? > > I'm in favor of doing it soon - and repeat if needed ;-) > > Andreas After speaking quickly to a few people on IRC we're thinking of the weekend on the 16-17 of June. This is only one day after alpha5, but I'm not sure we should wait a whole week later for the next weekend. So, to sum up, the plan would be: * Have one bug day for clearing out old bugs (say, from 10.1) which would be just after alpha5 time. Also encourage users to file enhancement requests for 10.3 at this time, otherwise they may not be implementable later. * Have another bug day after beta1 time (we don't have to think about the date yet) for trying to really concentrate on all 10.3 bugs. * Can take place in #opensuse-bugs. bugbot currently reports all openSUSE bug changes in there, but we'll change it at the time to only report _new_ bugs to get the traffic down. I'm thinking we should only announce a day or two before the bug day, so it's fresh in people's minds :). Thoughts? Regards, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] bugzilla has a bug
by James Tremblay 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

How do we report bugzilla issues? the default "My Bug" search needs to be edited to include "reporter" as a variable under "who and what" -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District Newmarket,NH http://en.opensuse.org/Education "let's make a difference" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] testing alpha 5 cd 1 gnome
by James Tremblay 17 Jun '07

17 Jun '07

On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:11 -0400, James Tremblay wrote: > * Please test the new 1 CD GNOME and KDE installation media and tell > us how to improve them. Please keep in mind the space constraints. > > 1) I have an IBM r51 laptop with the Intel 855 gm \ 815i video chipsets > and the synaptics mouse pad. Both of these are recognized by yast and > sax during install however they are not correctly configured upon > reboot. Running sax from the console fails to reconfigure and aborts. I > will post the SaX.log as soon as I can retrieve it. > > * Please test the network setup at the beginning and that you can add > remote installation sources even if installing from CD. > > 1) This module does not recognize the ipw2200 wireless driver. It should > also present an opportunity to interact with it when two nic cards are > present. which log would cover that? > -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District Newmarket,NH http://en.opensuse.org/Education "let's make a difference" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] LinuxTag 2007 Pictures
by Marcus Meissner 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

Hi, Pictures from our LinuxTag 2007 presence are now available on: http://gallery.opensuse.org/linuxtag2007 Thanks to Martin, Beineri, Adrian, and Christian Boltz for contributing pictures. The papers and slides that are already uploaded can be found on: http://en.opensuse.org/Linuxtag_2007 Ciao, Marcus -- Working, but not speaking, for the following german company: SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Summer of Code blogs please
by James Ogley 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

This is for anyone who's involved with the Summer of Code this year. If you have a blog (or are prepared to start one) and would like adding to Planet SUSE, please contact me OFF LIST. Cheers. (Oh, and if you're a contributor who's not on the SoC but still have never told me about your blog, get in touch too) -- James Ogley james(a)usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] LTSP on openSUSE
by James Tremblay 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

schaefi\ cyberorg\ gwayne: > Current status of LTSP5 on SUSE is: > > 1. We have kiwi-ltsp chroot image > 2. We have packages for ltspfs > 3. We have packages for LDM (ltsp display manager) and working ldm, > 4. We can mount local devices on clients in the X session of the users on the > server manually using ltspfs/fuse > 5. To be able to use read-only nfs root we have rudimentary suse-bind-mounts > script which needs a lot of improvement Have you tried using unionfs to avoid the bind-mounts? IIRC we are using them in our upcoming 10.3 LiveCDs, generated by KIWI. Best, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Network Proxy - Can Automatic configuration URL be used in YaST?
by Richard (MQ) 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

We had a recent thread about possible improvements to look for in YaST, but I don't remember any discussion on this topic. Is there any way that an Automatic configuration URL can be used to set up the network proxy? Similar to that implemented e.g. inside Firefox, but for system-wide application. I'm trying to push Linux - and OSL in particular - at work. The MS users are expected to set up proxy via a URL that seems to point to a piece of (java?) script which returns a string in the form "PROXY cache1:8080; PROXY cache2:8080; ". Somehow (I don't understand the details) this implements a form of load balancing between a number of proxy servers. I can extract one of the server addresses and enter it manually but (a) it's a bit clunky and (b) the load balancing is not included. I can't see any way to enter more than 1 address? Just an idea... -- Richard (MQ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Repository descriptions
by Thomas Hertweck 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

A bit of feedback: The descriptions for various opensuse-related software repositories on the opensuse website[*] are rather disappointing, i.e. a user does not know what these repositories offer. Therefore, it's difficult to know and decide which repository might be worth adding as installation source. This is not such a big problem for experienced opensuse users but it is one in particular for new SuSE users. Just a few examples: - Packman: Packman offers various additional packages for openSUSE. - Guru: Guru's RPM site contains packages optimized for i686 and x86_64. - suser-jengelh: Various packages from the suser-jengelh repository. - Schiele: More packages for various SUSE releases by Robert Schiele can be found here. Some of them are new packages, some of them are just updated packages from the original SUSE ones, and some just fix bugs when SUSE does not provide these bug fixes. - Scorot: Scorot is another repository with many packages. - suser-oc2pus: Various Packages since Suse 8.2. - suser-liviudm: Various packages by Liviu Damian. Well, it's not really surprising that the repository "suser-jengelh" contains "various packages from the suser-jengelh repository", isn't it? I understand that some repositories are huge and thus it's difficult to come up with a better description without going into too much detail. However, it would be great if the maintainers of those repositories (or somebody else with knowledge what these repositories actually offer) could expand the description and at least mention the categories of software that one might expect when adding the repositories. Maybe someone else has an idea how to improve the current situation... I am not sure whether this topic belongs here (because it's about community software repositories) or on the opensuse-wiki list (because it's about the website). Anyway, it's a bit of feedback. Cheers, Th. [*]http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Linuxtag 2007 - some thoughts ...
by Martin Lasarsch 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

Hi Instead of sending a "thank you" mail, i wrote something in my blog: http://www.novell.com/coolblogs/?p=896 But yes, thanks to all who supported us on Linuxtag this year! Now something different, let me sum up some things which went good and not that good. I would like to discuss this here on the list, not internal. Please add topics/concerns if i miss something, thanks! Of course this is also important for other events to improve our appearance. * booth setup + the concept of laptops & big LCDs showed again this is good + JackLab as an external project on the booth was nice, we should have that every year, when we have enough space on the booth. Not every year JackLab, every year a different project. - to much unused space in the middle of the booth, we should have a table with chairs next time. Henne suggested doing installations or other stuff there. I like that idea. - staffing: could be better but was not that bad. I tried to avoid a fixed schedule, maybe we should have one again. Maybe train the staff how to do the job. As i said, it was not that bad, but could be better. - "only" cboltz from the community was there helping us. It's not about that we don't want to send SUSE/Novell employees to the event, we want the community more involved and such an event is perfect for this. - no theme on the booth. One desk with "Xen for beginners" or "How to use the obs" for example would be nice next time. - booth look was pretty generic. We had only Novell/openSUSE stickers on the walls and a big Tux. Posters or Paper where people can write suggestions down would help. - softdrink situation: we had first big bottles, which was bad because most drank only a small amount of the water and let it rot. After that we had small bottles, with the same problem. Next time give drinks only out with a name written on the bottle. Yeah, we have problems ... :-) - on cebit there is a policy "no laptops on the booth, no email reading". I don't want to force that, but it is not very professional: the visitors don't want to interrupt somebody reading emails and go away ... could be better with a table. * openSUSE day - some talks were not well visited + some talks well visited find out what the visitors really want. Marcus Photomanagement and the Laptop talks were well visited. "How to work with Kontact and 10.000 mails a day" or other more user related topics would be also attract people which are usually not using openSUSE. + the idea of giving at the end of each talk t-shirts away for questions was good. - no community talk this year :-( - date: please not again on the first day of the event, it's a nightmare to get the booth running smooth and have all the talks. - idea: get more talks outside openSUSE day, like mhopf or Larry Ewing. * merchandising + we had Promo DVDs, T-shirts, 15cm Tux, Caps ... all for free - make a plan how to give away the shirts or other valuable goods. If we have them next time again for free, one plan could be: charge 5€ for a shirt and donate all the money to a OSS project or EFF, FSF or even openSUSE (travel costs for community etc.). Some other projects are not really happy that our shirts are free. * other ideas - make a live irc meeting on the event, with video streaming :-) - do an official irl meeting with the community, dinner at least, paid by Novell -- with kind regards, Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) martin.lasarsch(a)suse.de - http://www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Survey on proprietary software usage
by Roger Whittaker 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

Andreas sent out this announcement: > We like to know a bit more about the usage of proprietary software we > ship on some versions of our openSUSE distribution. Therefore we created > a 16 question survey and ask you to participate and give us > feedback. The survey is online till June 12. I'd like to find out more about the aims of the survey, if possible. Also why is tetex/texlive regarded as proprietary in this context? -- ======================== Roger Whittaker roger(a)disruptive.org.uk http://disruptive.org.uk ======================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Does this mean OpenSUSE will be dropping Wireshark?
by Jim Pye 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

>From an announcement of Arstechnica at http://tinyurl.com/2yjqoq Does this mean OpenSUSE, SLES etc. - which I understand has a lot of engineering force in Germany - will have to drop products like Wireshark? Jim -- Jim Pye PyeNet Universal http://www.pyenet.co.nz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Does this mean OpenSUSE will be dropping Wireshark?
by Dennis Conrad 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

>From an announcement of Arstechnica at http://tinyurl.com/2yjqoq Welcome to my world. Since Australia passed the Cybercrime Bill 2001 it is illegal to distribute and/or possess "hacker tools". Not that anyone cares, but still... Dennis --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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