April 2007 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] Unknown hardware? Let me have a look...
by Magnus Boman 01 May '07

01 May '07

Hello all! I would like to put forward an idea that I have, which could simplify the life for Linux users... The concept is simple, but the implementation is probably not :-/ Today, when I install openSUSE on my machine, it will detect most of my hardware just fine. But there are some hardware that could not be identified properly, for instance my monitors. What I would like to see, is that during the install, some magic is built in that can automatically (after the user approves) go out to the internet to see if there are any drivers for the specific hardware. There should also be an daemon running on the machine, that detects when new hardware has been attached and there are no available drivers for it. It should then suggest that it can look it up on the internet. If a driver is found, it should be downloaded and installed onto the system. The hosting website should also be able to keep track of what sort of hardware that has not been properly identified so that the next version of the distro can include them. For something like a monitor, it could be as simple as letting users add the needed mode lines etc to the website and it would be downloaded and put into SaX2's database. I think it would also be good if that same website would know about free proprietary (but re-distributable) drivers and let the user select whether he wants to download them or not. We currently have this in the "Desktop Effects" utility, but users might want to have the driver for other purposes than a 3D Desktop. Does anyone think that this would be a good idea and if so, how should we proceed? Thanks, Magnus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Daylight Savings Time Changes in New Zealand
by Jim Pye 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Guys Just to let you know that it has been announced that the NZ Govt has announced that the New Zealand Daylight Savings time is being extended for the 2007-2008 summer season. Clocks will go forward an hour a week earlier than usual - on the last Sunday in September- and back an hour on the first Sunday in April. Please check out: http://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/wpg_URL/Services-Daylight-Saving-Dayl… or shorter form: http://tinyurl.com/3alozw For the official details. Cheers Jim -- Jim Pye PyeNet Universal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Testing instlux for OpenSuSE10.3
by Jordi Massaguer 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Daniel and Sascha, I have upload your changes into svn. However, I am not able to compile them with the nsis. The problem is that I can not get the nsis system plugin, as at the wiki pages says that it is included in the latest nsis release. However, it is not included at the linux release. Do you think you could send me the files I need or an idea how to manage that? Again, thank you very much! jordi ----- Mensaje original ---- De: Daniel Gollub <dgollub(a)suse.de> Para: opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org CC: ssommer(a)suse.de Enviado: domingo, 29 de abril, 2007 14:51:28 Asunto: Re: [opensuse-project] Testing instlux for OpenSuSE10.3 On Tuesday 24 April 2007 11:05:16 Jordi Massaguer i Pla wrote: > I am asking you some testing and feedback about it. You can download the > latest builds from: > > http://instlux.sourceforge.net/testing_builds/ Hi Jordi, Sascha and me have done some basic testing of your test builds. instlux works quite well so far. We can also verify that it is working for SATA harddisks. We discovered only some minor issues: #1 Find Windows partion find --set-root /autoexec.bat This would break on several windows installation on different partions. Even on windows installation which don't have a "autoexec.bat" file in place. (At least one box i tested with a vendor customized Windows XP doesn't have one.) We enhanced your nsis script so it create a "stamp file" to mark the Window partition which triggered the instlux installation: find --set-root /instlux-hitme.txt ... should be very unique :) (Feel free to rename the file in something more unique) #2 Translations Updated the German translation ... not quite sure about the quality of the other translations. Maybe you should make a call for proof reading. #3 Use system screen resolution and selected language instlux should now start the installation in the user chosen language. The installation system gets booted with vga=0xXXX parameter and splash=silent. The screen resolution from the Windows installation is used to determine the vga value. For some reason the splash screen is not working .. but i guess your initrd is customized and not the original one - right? The nsis system plugin is required to get the system resolution http://nsis.sourceforge.net/System_plug-in TODO: Some languages aren't handled yet in the nsis script. #4 instlux grub - timeout 0 The grub of instlux boots know the installation immediately. No need to bother the user two times with different boot managers. #5 Check minimum amount of RAM / Harddisk free space (TODO) For the network installation builds instlux should check if the minimum amount of RAM is avaliable. If not instlux should give a warning. Maybe we could do something similar to check if enough harddisk space is left and give warnings. #6 make_instlux.py changes Don't call makensis with absolute path, my version is very very customized. Maybe we should provide a nsis package with all the required plugins in the oSBS. All changes are attachted as patch from the latest revision of SVN. I hope you could commit them upstream. Beside the background color change to #7ac142 this should be still distribution independent... best regards, Daniel Index: translations/german/license_german.txt =================================================================== --- translations/german/license_german.txt (revision 18) +++ translations/german/license_german.txt (working copy) @@ -2,7 +2,9 @@ Autor: Jordi Massaguer Pla Mitwirkende: -Die Leute, die hier verzeichnet werden, haben zum instlux, entweder durch Code beigetragen, indem sie Rückgespräch sendeten oder indem sie förderten. Wenn du denkst, solltest du hier verzeichnet werden, schreibst ein email zu jordimassaguerpla(a)yahoo.es. + +Folgende Personen haben durch Code, Rücksprachen oder Förderungen zu instlux beigetragen. +Wenn Sie ebenfalls als Beigetragender erwähnt werden möchten, schreiben Sie eine E-Mail an jordimassaguerpla(a)yahoo.es. LIST_OF_CONTRIBUTORS Deutsche Übersetzung der Index: src/instlux_template_en.nsi =================================================================== --- src/instlux_template_en.nsi (revision 18) +++ src/instlux_template_en.nsi (working copy) @@ -59,8 +59,9 @@ !include FileFunc.nsh ; GetRoot / un.GetRoot !insertmacro GetRoot !insertmacro un.GetRoot - BGGradient f8e409 + BGGradient 7ac142 + !define MUI_ICON "instlux.ico" !define MUI_UNICON "instlux.ico" !define MUI_HEADERIMAGE @@ -100,6 +101,9 @@ var c var ConfigSYS var MenuLSTFile +var HitMeFile +var Resolution +var LangParam Function .onInit # the plugins dir is automatically deleted when the installer exits @@ -116,6 +120,7 @@ Pop $0 ; $0 has '1' if the user closed the splash screen early, ; '0' if everything closed normally, and '-1' if some error occurred. !insertmacro MUI_LANGDLL_DISPLAY + FunctionEnd @@ -171,10 +176,79 @@ lbl_Common: + FileOpen $HitMeFile $c\instlux_hitme.txt a + FileWrite $HitMeFile "This file was created by instlux." + FileSeek $HitMeFile 0 END + FileClose $HitMeFile + +# TODO add all avaliable languages + StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_ENGLISH} 0 +2 + StrCpy $LangParam "en" + StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_DUTCH} 0 +2 + StrCpy $LangParam "da" + StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_FRENCH} 0 +2 + StrCpy $LangParam "fr" + StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_GERMAN} 0 +2 + StrCpy $LangParam "de" +# StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_KOREAN} 0 +2 +# StrCpy $LangParam "cr" +# StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_RUSSIAN} 0 +2 +# StrCpy $LangParam "ru" + StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_SPANISH} 0 +2 + StrCpy $LangParam "es" + StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_SWEDISH} 0 +2 + StrCpy $LangParam "se" +# StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_TRADCHINESE} 0 +2 +# StrCpy $LangParam "zh_TW" +# StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_SIMPCHINESE} 0 +2 +# StrCpy $LangParam "zh_CN" +# StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_SLOVAK} 0 +2 +# StrCpy $LangParam "sk" + + + + # http://nsis.sourceforge.net/System_plug-in <--- requires + System::Call 'user32::GetSystemMetrics(i 0) i .r0' + System::Call 'user32::GetSystemMetrics(i 1) i .r1' + + + + # 64k | 0x311 0x314 0x317 0x31A + IntCmp $0 640 is640 isUnknow 0 + IntCmp $0 800 is800 + IntCmp $0 1024 is1024 + IntCmp $0 1280 is1280 0 is1280 + + isUnknow: + StrCpy $Resolution "normal" + Goto writeMenu + + is640: + StrCpy $Resolution "0x311" + Goto writeMenu + + is800: + StrCpy $Resolution "0x314" + Goto writeMenu + + is1024: + StrCpy $Resolution "0x317" + Goto writeMenu + + is1280: + StrCpy $Resolution "0x31A" + Goto writeMenu + + + writeMenu: + + FileOpen $MenuLSTFile $c\menu.lst a + FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "hiddenmenu $\r$\n" + FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "timeout 0 $\r$\n" FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "title MENU_TITLE $\r$\n" - FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "find --set-root /autoexec.bat$\r$\n" - FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "kernel /distros/KERNEL KRNL_APPEND$\r$\n" + FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "find --set-root /instlux_hitme.txt$\r$\n" + FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "kernel /distros/KERNEL KRNL_APPEND lang=$LangParam vga=$Resolution splash=silent$\r$\n" FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "initrd /distros/DRIVERS$\r$\n" FileSeek $MenuLSTFile 0 END FileClose $MenuLSTFile @@ -221,6 +295,7 @@ lbl_Finish: RMDir /REBOOTOK /r "$c\distros\OUTPATH" Delete /REBOOTOK "$c\menu.lst" + Delete /REBOOTOK "$c\instlux_hitme.txt" Delete /REBOOTOK "$SMSTARTUP\instlux-uninst.exe" SectionEnd Index: make_instlux.py =================================================================== --- make_instlux.py (revision 18) +++ make_instlux.py (working copy) @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ build = "build" #nsis_bin = '"c:\Program Files\NSIS\makensis.exe"' -nsis_bin = '"/usr/bin/makensis"' +nsis_bin = '"makensis"' instlux_ico = "instlux.ico" instlux_logo = "instlux_logo.bmp" grub4dos = ["grldr","grub.exe"] ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. 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Re: [opensuse-project] Testing instlux for OpenSuSE10.3
by Jordi Massaguer 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

danke schön!! jordi ----- Mensaje original ---- De: Daniel Gollub <dgollub(a)suse.de> Para: opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org CC: ssommer(a)suse.de Enviado: domingo, 29 de abril, 2007 14:51:28 Asunto: Re: [opensuse-project] Testing instlux for OpenSuSE10.3 On Tuesday 24 April 2007 11:05:16 Jordi Massaguer i Pla wrote: > I am asking you some testing and feedback about it. You can download the > latest builds from: > > http://instlux.sourceforge.net/testing_builds/ Hi Jordi, Sascha and me have done some basic testing of your test builds. instlux works quite well so far. We can also verify that it is working for SATA harddisks. We discovered only some minor issues: #1 Find Windows partion find --set-root /autoexec.bat This would break on several windows installation on different partions. Even on windows installation which don't have a "autoexec.bat" file in place. (At least one box i tested with a vendor customized Windows XP doesn't have one.) We enhanced your nsis script so it create a "stamp file" to mark the Window partition which triggered the instlux installation: find --set-root /instlux-hitme.txt ... should be very unique :) (Feel free to rename the file in something more unique) #2 Translations Updated the German translation ... not quite sure about the quality of the other translations. Maybe you should make a call for proof reading. #3 Use system screen resolution and selected language instlux should now start the installation in the user chosen language. The installation system gets booted with vga=0xXXX parameter and splash=silent. The screen resolution from the Windows installation is used to determine the vga value. For some reason the splash screen is not working .. but i guess your initrd is customized and not the original one - right? The nsis system plugin is required to get the system resolution http://nsis.sourceforge.net/System_plug-in TODO: Some languages aren't handled yet in the nsis script. #4 instlux grub - timeout 0 The grub of instlux boots know the installation immediately. No need to bother the user two times with different boot managers. #5 Check minimum amount of RAM / Harddisk free space (TODO) For the network installation builds instlux should check if the minimum amount of RAM is avaliable. If not instlux should give a warning. Maybe we could do something similar to check if enough harddisk space is left and give warnings. #6 make_instlux.py changes Don't call makensis with absolute path, my version is very very customized. Maybe we should provide a nsis package with all the required plugins in the oSBS. All changes are attachted as patch from the latest revision of SVN. I hope you could commit them upstream. Beside the background color change to #7ac142 this should be still distribution independent... best regards, Daniel Index: translations/german/license_german.txt =================================================================== --- translations/german/license_german.txt (revision 18) +++ translations/german/license_german.txt (working copy) @@ -2,7 +2,9 @@ Autor: Jordi Massaguer Pla Mitwirkende: -Die Leute, die hier verzeichnet werden, haben zum instlux, entweder durch Code beigetragen, indem sie Rückgespräch sendeten oder indem sie förderten. Wenn du denkst, solltest du hier verzeichnet werden, schreibst ein email zu jordimassaguerpla(a)yahoo.es. + +Folgende Personen haben durch Code, Rücksprachen oder Förderungen zu instlux beigetragen. +Wenn Sie ebenfalls als Beigetragender erwähnt werden möchten, schreiben Sie eine E-Mail an jordimassaguerpla(a)yahoo.es. LIST_OF_CONTRIBUTORS Deutsche Übersetzung der Index: src/instlux_template_en.nsi =================================================================== --- src/instlux_template_en.nsi (revision 18) +++ src/instlux_template_en.nsi (working copy) @@ -59,8 +59,9 @@ !include FileFunc.nsh ; GetRoot / un.GetRoot !insertmacro GetRoot !insertmacro un.GetRoot - BGGradient f8e409 + BGGradient 7ac142 + !define MUI_ICON "instlux.ico" !define MUI_UNICON "instlux.ico" !define MUI_HEADERIMAGE @@ -100,6 +101,9 @@ var c var ConfigSYS var MenuLSTFile +var HitMeFile +var Resolution +var LangParam Function .onInit # the plugins dir is automatically deleted when the installer exits @@ -116,6 +120,7 @@ Pop $0 ; $0 has '1' if the user closed the splash screen early, ; '0' if everything closed normally, and '-1' if some error occurred. !insertmacro MUI_LANGDLL_DISPLAY + FunctionEnd @@ -171,10 +176,79 @@ lbl_Common: + FileOpen $HitMeFile $c\instlux_hitme.txt a + FileWrite $HitMeFile "This file was created by instlux." + FileSeek $HitMeFile 0 END + FileClose $HitMeFile + +# TODO add all avaliable languages + StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_ENGLISH} 0 +2 + StrCpy $LangParam "en" + StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_DUTCH} 0 +2 + StrCpy $LangParam "da" + StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_FRENCH} 0 +2 + StrCpy $LangParam "fr" + StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_GERMAN} 0 +2 + StrCpy $LangParam "de" +# StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_KOREAN} 0 +2 +# StrCpy $LangParam "cr" +# StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_RUSSIAN} 0 +2 +# StrCpy $LangParam "ru" + StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_SPANISH} 0 +2 + StrCpy $LangParam "es" + StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_SWEDISH} 0 +2 + StrCpy $LangParam "se" +# StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_TRADCHINESE} 0 +2 +# StrCpy $LangParam "zh_TW" +# StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_SIMPCHINESE} 0 +2 +# StrCpy $LangParam "zh_CN" +# StrCmp $LANGUAGE ${LANG_SLOVAK} 0 +2 +# StrCpy $LangParam "sk" + + + + # http://nsis.sourceforge.net/System_plug-in <--- requires + System::Call 'user32::GetSystemMetrics(i 0) i .r0' + System::Call 'user32::GetSystemMetrics(i 1) i .r1' + + + + # 64k | 0x311 0x314 0x317 0x31A + IntCmp $0 640 is640 isUnknow 0 + IntCmp $0 800 is800 + IntCmp $0 1024 is1024 + IntCmp $0 1280 is1280 0 is1280 + + isUnknow: + StrCpy $Resolution "normal" + Goto writeMenu + + is640: + StrCpy $Resolution "0x311" + Goto writeMenu + + is800: + StrCpy $Resolution "0x314" + Goto writeMenu + + is1024: + StrCpy $Resolution "0x317" + Goto writeMenu + + is1280: + StrCpy $Resolution "0x31A" + Goto writeMenu + + + writeMenu: + + FileOpen $MenuLSTFile $c\menu.lst a + FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "hiddenmenu $\r$\n" + FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "timeout 0 $\r$\n" FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "title MENU_TITLE $\r$\n" - FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "find --set-root /autoexec.bat$\r$\n" - FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "kernel /distros/KERNEL KRNL_APPEND$\r$\n" + FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "find --set-root /instlux_hitme.txt$\r$\n" + FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "kernel /distros/KERNEL KRNL_APPEND lang=$LangParam vga=$Resolution splash=silent$\r$\n" FileWrite $MenuLSTFile "initrd /distros/DRIVERS$\r$\n" FileSeek $MenuLSTFile 0 END FileClose $MenuLSTFile @@ -221,6 +295,7 @@ lbl_Finish: RMDir /REBOOTOK /r "$c\distros\OUTPATH" Delete /REBOOTOK "$c\menu.lst" + Delete /REBOOTOK "$c\instlux_hitme.txt" Delete /REBOOTOK "$SMSTARTUP\instlux-uninst.exe" SectionEnd Index: make_instlux.py =================================================================== --- make_instlux.py (revision 18) +++ make_instlux.py (working copy) @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ build = "build" #nsis_bin = '"c:\Program Files\NSIS\makensis.exe"' -nsis_bin = '"/usr/bin/makensis"' +nsis_bin = '"makensis"' instlux_ico = "instlux.ico" instlux_logo = "instlux_logo.bmp" grub4dos = ["grldr","grub.exe"] ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. 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[opensuse-project] Feature/Goal tracking using FATE for openSUSE
by Francis Giannaros 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

So this was discussed during the Status Meeting and now it's here for a broader discussion. :) It was suggested that a feature/goal tracking tool (FATE) be adopted by openSUSE and made public (bug .223290). There are a few reasons for this: * This is one of the cases of the wiki being misused for such a thing, when it's not ideal. Several projects currently use the wiki for goal tracking. While it's absolutely awesome thath this stuff is public so that many of us can take a look through, it may not be ideal. Some examples: Zypp, YaST, KIWI <http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/KIWI/Todo>, UX, Build Service etc. * Things are more open to the community; openSUSE does use FATE currently, but it's Novell's one only open to employees. Current cons are that it would really take quite some time/effort to put up. So, the question is: would people in other projects find it useful (instead of having to use the wiki) to have this, and do you think it is a good idea? Regards, -- Francis Giannaros Web: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos on irc.freenode.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Testing instlux for OpenSuSE10.3
by Jordi Massaguer i Pla 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

Dear all, As agreed during the FOSDEM07, work has been done in order to make instlux be part of the OpenSuSE10.3. Also, this work has been reported on the opensuse-project list. Now, instlux suports OpenSuSE10.3 Alpha 3, both installation medias (CDROM and internet) and both architectures (i386 and x86_64). I am asking you some testing and feedback about it. You can download the latest builds from: http://instlux.sourceforge.net/testing_builds/ Your help will be appreciated. thanks, jordi massaguer i pla --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Package Search and Simple Install status report
by Benji Weber 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Greetings all, I thought I'd send an email out summarising some of the things I have been working on recently, to obtain some feedback, and maybe even some help. = Package Search = - This is back up for the time being, although I am not confident of it staying up for long, if it's down or slow when you read this email I apologise. adrianS has kindly offered to help with hosting when they have some more resources. - Set up a design page at http://en.opensuse.org/PKGSearch-design - Having spent some time reviewing how people were trying to use the search, I found a large proportion were searching for phrases, not just package names/contents. Therefore I made the package summaries searchable too. eg you could find konversation now with: http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=kde+irc+client or http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=bin%2Fkonversation or http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=konversation - There was a performance problem with people searching for very common and short terms such as "qt" or "kde", this should be fixed now. - I've made some slight modifications to the design based on some suggestions. - I've been working on improving the performance of the trawler, I can now from a clean database locate, download, parse, index the metadata for the main official/community & build service repositories in under half an hour on my desktop. (That's ~900 repositories, ~110,000 packages including summaries/descriptions, ~16,000,000 files), incremental updates where only some repositories have changed are much faster. - Integration with the simple software installation (explained below) that I've been proposing, with "Install now" links on http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index-test.jsp = Simple Software Installation = The vast majority of the questions we face when there are not serious things wrong with the distribution are related to issues such as installation of third party software, multimedia codecs etc. Explaining to new users the concept of package repositories, how to add these, and subsequently install software is not trivial. Furthermore, users should not be forced to grasp these concepts in order to easily install software, in my opinion. To solve this we could have a simple file handler that can handle links in web pages or files on distributable media which automates the process of adding repositories and installing software. - I've set up a wiki page outlining the concept at http://en.opensuse.org/MetaPackage-design - I've created a functional prototype yast module, Pascal has kindly made a package which you can try at: http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/mp/yast2-mpp-0.0-0.suse102.noarch.rpm After installing this you can try out some demo uses at http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/test.html The "install now" links on http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index-test.jsp Currently the above will only work with konqueror, unless you create the associations manually for firefox/opera in the same way as they are configured in konqueror (this is possible, but difficult to package without having the configuration in the upstream distribution package) Martin Schandler is creating a demo page to show how this could be used to simplify codec installation, for now hopefully you can use your imagination. - In the above package there is also a demo yast client to the search service, you can run with "/sbin/YaST2 PackageSearch" as a normal user, and search for and install packages from the build service in the same way as the "Install now" links on the webpin page. = What I would like help with = - Please could people try out the demo prototype metapackage handler described above, and comment on the concept. - I know ycp only a little, and perl not at all, so if someone could fix the above into a releasable quality that would be awesome. (source is also at http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/mp) = Future = - Search service joint hosting Novell/Community, adrianS is looking into this. - Migration of the frontend to the search to opensuse-community.org - Fix ycp/perl to a releasable state. (someone who knows what they're doing) - Improve the "Install now" functionality of the search service, by calculating the repositories each package depends on (it isn't always just the one the package is located in). I am currently investigating either a simple method looking at the repository dependencies in the build service and manual setup for repositories outside the build service, and a far more complicated method using the rpm requires & depends. - Integration with new build service features such as statistics, using the search service statistics to improve results. - Using search service to enrich client side software. That's all I can think of for now. _ Benjamin Weber --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Feedback for openSUSE 10.2 and preparing for 10.3
by Andreas Jaeger 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

We've briefly discussed during the last IRC meeting about what went bad in 10.2 and how we can do this better for future products, especially 10.3. I'm mainly interested in process feedback - and not on feedback that package x is broken (unless that shows a process problem). So, let's discuss what we can do better for our next distro, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-project] bugstatus/release - reply to Scott Couston
by Andreas Jaeger 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Scott asked on http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Current the following: > It seems apparent from the number bugs without a resolution still exist > in versions 10,0-10,2. A very small number of bugs are closed as Fixed > in 10,3. Looking at the sheer number of open bugs in 10,0-10,2 it would > appear that release of a new version only increases functionality at the > expense of closing and fixing bugs. Can you tell me/us under what Yes, and this is a problem. The challenge is that some of the bugs are bugs in the upstream packages and we cannot fix all of these ourselves. I agree that we're not doing a good enough job in reacting to bugs and this is on my agenda to change. > situation/timetable you use to determine the tooling-up for a new > version and what constitutes a RC - given the number of current > bugs. Forgive me I am not offering criticism at all, however Novel's Q.A > compliance would appear at odds with current release pattern of aprox 6 > months. Due to my GMT +10 time difference I will be unable to attend the > session and trust that a .PDF may be available afterwards. Many Thanks > for your time. For the final release candidate, the goal is to ship without any blockers and we reached that the last releases. For the alphas, we do basic testing that it installs - but not more. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-project] Mission statement for openSUSE
by Sabine Soellheim 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Hi, Within the framework of the new web design of *.opensuse.org, we are also discussing the mission statement for the openSUSE project and we would love to receive your input. A mission statement - a clear and succinct representation of openSUSE project, a so called "one-liner" e.g. * openSUSE - Built to fit! * openSUSE - Have a lot of fun! * openSUSE - Caffeine for your machine! * The openSUSE project - A real alternative! * openSUSE - It's a wild thing! * openSUSE - An unlimited alternative! * openSUSE - The adaptable and innovative solution! It should be included/supported by a set of our values such as open, leading edge distribution, fits everywhere, best of open source, innovative, user-friendly, comprehensive, etc. We will select the best three mission statements for further discussion and finally reward the best input with a 50cm stuffed Tux. We are looking forward to your ideas. Thanks in advance, Sabine Soellheim Product Marketing Manager Novell SUSE Linux Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg ------------------------------- SUSE Linux Products GmbH: GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) ------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is Ready http://www.novell.com/linux --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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