On Tuesday 23 January 2007 21:37, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
No, SLED is not an alternative, it's a product on its own and one of its
main goals is stability. It has a much more appropriate mojo to provide
that compared to openSUSE.
I think you have no idea what SLED is.
You don't know me, so please don't go wild with such opinions.
It's tuned to desktop usage.
However, many people need more than just an office desktop client.
There's is SLES, SLE Real Time, Novell Linux POS etc. Are we still talking
about production environment, or are we losing focus?
Again, you seem to have no idea of real-world
Factory might be a playground and test bed, but
not the release version of openSUSE, and it's good to know that Adrian
and others agree with that. I use openSUSE at home and I certainly don't
want to suffer from your proposal - my systems have to function
You have started the exaggeration, I did not say that openSUSE releases need
to be made all out of SVN checkouts. I was just saying that openSUSE cannot
fulfill the role of enterprise products. Whoever wants long term super
stability or does not want to be concerned at all with IT but do their
business, should look there.
exactly what happened in our office at work where everything is based on
RedHat releases - we tried openSUSE (10.1) and because of many problems
we decided not to go any step further. Sorry Novell, you have lost one
possible customer there...
And you haven't tried SLED/SLES because... ? Smart move, really, trying a
different product to asses another. Pray tell that you have tried Fedora and
decided to use Red Hat.
Hello! Who forced you?
If you want to have always the latest software versions in official
Yes, I want the latest _releases_ (read stable) of software. And I'm getting
it and you too. Even Factory does not contain SVN checkouts for most stuff,
but maybe for some important pieces.
It needs a good balance.
It already has the perfect balance, I love it the way it is. Already the
product cycle has been lengthened from 6 months to 8 months. It's just fine,
should be left it as it is.
world"), then there is no way to use official
releases as playground or
test bed for possibly unstable and untested software.
We should stop the rant, seems to me that sufficient clarifications have been
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