May 2020 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] SLE/LEAP/JUMP Packaging Policy ... and one effect it has.
by PGNet Dev 08 May '20

08 May '20

In case anyone's interested in YA-example, I run openSUSE Leap 15.1 & SLE 15sp1. The former, here, is very definitely the feeder/driver of use & adoption of the latter. TW is not at all an option for production. For me, core tech'y that I care about being both stable & modern includes: kernel, systemd (incl systemd-networkd), dracut, grub, Xen, GCC, git & python Options for openSUSE Leap 15.1, from devel repos, are available & packaged for ALL of those -- except systemd. systemd, OTOH, is shipped in Leap15.1/Leap15.2/SLE15sp1/SLE15sp2 as v234 -- lacking modern functionality, & simply broken in places. afaict, ONLY *TW* packages v244/245 ... Trying to get ANY of the updated versions supported on SLE is an uphill battle, at best. OBS builds of v244/v245 for any of those^ platforms are ... challenged; unless I've missed it, I've seen no successful package builds for any of them. There's little/no interest or response from #opensuse-*, inquiries about policy to opensuse-support list (https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-support/2020-04/msg00070.html) are, so far, uncommented. Attempts to report brokenness, with links to known issues & fixes requiring updates, are dismissed as 'feature requests' with the bugs summarily/unilaterally CLOSED. e.g., https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1169476 "... we can't afford to backport a feature each time an openSUSE user is missing one ..." I find that sort of response closeminded & myopic, but I get it -- not my distro, not my rules. Here, a production OS without a modern/fully-functional systemd is of no interest/use to me; despite my personal preference ... Unless/until an Enterprise-production-class Suse* packages/supports a modern systemd, it's no longer a option. Not Leap, not Jump, and not $SLE. What's this mean just for me? We used to be an all openSUSE/SLES shop; _quite_a_few_ hundreds of installs, a small king's-ransom in license/support costs. By end of this quarter, I'll have moved the _last_ bank of (8) *SUSE production servers, and the development desktops that serve them, to other OS. Me, personally? I'll keep _my_ *personal* desktops & servers as franken-Leap instances as long as I can still hack them into submission; we'll see what systemd package's version stance does to my thinking ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Bugzilla migration (bugzilla.opensuse.org and bugzilla.suse.com)
by Gerald Pfeifer 06 May '20

06 May '20

Hi everyone, as you may know SUSE and openSUSE are carving out the last IT assets from Micro Focus this spring. Next in line is Bugzilla. Bugzilla is particularly tricky since we (openSUSE and SUSE) on the one hand and Micro Focus (Novell,...) on the other all share one database instance. Part of the carve out is to surgically separate openSUSE and SUSE issues from the rest. => BUGZILLA IS GOING TO BE UNAVAILABLE from Thursday, May 7th 14:00 UTC (16:00 CEST, 8am MDT) until Sunday, May 10th. During that period the current (= old) instance should not show openSUSE and SUSE projects/products any longer, and reporting of new issues should not be feasible. When the new instance is up and running it will look and feel like today, just reside in a SUSE data center (and only carry openSUSE and SUSE bugs). You will need to change your password - that should be all. Pardon the interruption - and thanks to all who have been working on this! Gerald PS: For the technically interested, the move goes hand-in-hand with a new authentication system replacing one operated by Micro Focus. Our Bugzilla will have a banner with a link when it's migrated. At that point, between Monday, May 11th and June 30th at the latest, please migrate your user account. Details will be described at https://idp-portal-info.suse.com. ) -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com>, CTO @SUSE + chair @openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Fwd: Akademy Call for Proposals now open
by ddemaio 06 May '20

06 May '20

Hi all, KDE's Akademy 2020's call for papers is now open. More info about the CfP is available at https://dot.kde.org/2020/05/04/akademy-2020-call-proposals. Please submit your proposals by Sunday 14th June 2020 23:59 UTC. Akademy 2020 will take place online from Friday the 4th to Friday the 11th of September 2020. Having recently completed a virtual conference, I would recommend giving a talk at this online event. It is highly likely that the audience will be bigger than phycial conferences and it would be a good opportunity to reach a wider audience. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Virtual Summit Summary
by ddemaio 05 May '20

05 May '20

Hi all, We had the openSUSE Virtual Summit was May 1. Around 156 people registered for the event, which featured 14 talks. The schdule of the talks can be found at https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSvirtsmt/schedule/events. We will get the videos up on our Youtube channel as soon as we can. The planning of the event took about a month from start to finish. The event was a subsitute for the openSUSE Summit in Dublin that was cancelled - https://news.opensuse.org/2020/03/06/openSUSE-Summit-Dublin-Canceled/ The tool that was used for this was on opensuse.reqmagic.com. The tool developed over a five-week period and was Minimum Viable Project still considered to be in the Alpha phase of development. While considered an Alpha level MVP, opensuse.reqmagic.com functioned well enough to have a sucessful virtual summit. The interactions at the summit were great and people had time to ask questions and discuss a variety of things online. Feedback about the summit included the following: Sound End user audio quality is by far the biggest problem. * For best quality audio a high quality stereo USB headset from Jabra or Plantronics is recommended. * Bluetooth *not* recommended - 2 way communications forces it to mono, not stereo audio (stereo is essential for spatial audio). * Local network issues are the next most common cause of bad audio - usually WiFi is to blame. Try to use a cabled ethernet or make sure you have a good wifi audio * Other devices streaming content are also problematic.(Ie Netflix, gaming, etc) - whilst these these services can tolerate network issues because they have large caches, they can swamp available bandwidth and cause problems for realtime audio. The mute button did not work sporatically, which left a few microphones open during talks. (To continue with the summit, we recommended people mute their micrphone through their operating system) Options to consider for the development - Muteall --force would be nice and abiity to mute somone else. Consider use the different icon on Mute and Live The constant beeping, e.g. when other participants log in, ... is almost worse, especially for hearing impaired (or sensitive) persons (with hearing aids). A colleague therefore had to leave the presentation. Some of which could be solved witht the features that will be improved. Feeback for improvement. Structure Spread sessions apart so they are not running back to back. Feeback for improvement. Each presenter was to share their slides through their web browser. As a back up plan, having links to presentations so the adminsitrator could share the slides while the attendee could brief can be considered a best practice. Also, links to the slides should be sent to the organzier before the event. The summit schedule in the tool did not show times of the talks. Feeback for improvement. Features It would be nice and also helpful for understanding to see the speaker as well, not only the presentation( like Richard did - https://youtu.be/idZEJ0OYfWU) Sponsorship banners were too high aboove the presentation slides. Should try to make them closer to the presentation or create a sponsorship frame that the presentation is inside of. Feeback for improvement. During the summit, many people were using the Telegram group (t.me/oSVS2020), email and phone calls to commuicate with adminstrators and other attendees. Having a chat inside the tool would be helpful in communicating with one another should there be technical difficulties or to communicate delays, etc. It would be transparent and everyone can see what is happening. Each session could also have a session chat, which posts an automatic reminder at th end the the session is over. Feeback for improvement. Chatbox for chat with each others. Feeback for improvement. Firefox seems to work without any issues, even it´s not recommended. Positive result feeback. Inform the people upfront, how the virtual conferece tool is working. Not everyone was able to attend the first session that introduced the "rules". An email was sent to help mitigate this and a session was given to help inform people of the best practice for partiicpating in the event - https://www.slideshare.net/douglasdemaio/virtual-summit-intro Perhaps an introduction video for use could be one of the first things seen to introduce people to the tool. Feeback for improvement. Maybe a "fullscreen-mode" for (while) the presentations? People started to update their avitar and understood the value of updating the personal info. Positive result feeback. Raise Hand for ask questions Consider use the different icon on Mute and Live Include a hashtag for Tweets. Area to show people the hastag :D #oSvirtsmt #oSVS20 Talks Intro to Plugin Oriented Programming - https://pop-book.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ Intro to the Virtual Summit IT Risk Management Based on ISO 31000 and OWASP Framework using OSINT (Case Study: Election Commission of X City) - https://www.slideshare.net/secret/oW693cwzkvddLh Introduction Podman for Beginner - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1UD9IGi6yEC51PFcjdyifsiYhJmfu6ztoJBK… Translating Open Source Apps - https://blog.kukuh.syafaat.id/slides/oSvirtsmt/translating-open-source-apps… Sway on openSUSE user status - https://denisok.github.io/oSC20-openSUSEway/index.html#/ CSS containers: making websites accessible to disabled users - https://johnrhudson.me.uk/computing/CSS_containers_presentation.pdf Jump! Current state and upcoming challenges - https://www.slideshare.net/douglasdemaio/jump-current-state-and-upcoming-ch… The Current and Future strategy for openSUSE Leap - https://en.opensuse.org/File:Osvirtsmt-2020-opensuse-leap-strategy.pdf Keep it up and running - AKA openSUSE maintenance - https://www.slideshare.net/deneb_alpha/opensuse-virtual-summit-2020-opensus… Uyuni: the solution to manage your Linux infrastructure - https://www.slideshare.net/pgquiles/uyuni-the-solution-to-manage-your-infra… openSUSE MicroOS - the OS that does "just one job" - https://youtu.be/idZEJ0OYfWU) Linux in the Time of COVID19 Flexible and Fast Software Delivery with the Open Build Service at Datto - https://ngompa.fedorapeople.org/datto-obs-sw-delivery-oSvirtSummit.pdf Limitless Potential: Using Modularity in Programming to Spur and Sustain Open Source Innovation - https://www.slideshare.net/douglasdemaio/limitless-potential-using-modulari… and https://pop-book.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Virtual Summit
by ddemaio 01 May '20

01 May '20

Hi all, I just want to let you know that we will have an openSUSE Virtual Summit May 1 and 2 - https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSvirtsmt More information will follow in the coming weeks leading up to the summit. As we had to cancel the Dublin Summit, quite a few of the speakers were interested in having a virtual summit if we could make it happen. It looks like we found an option that will works. I'll send out more information once I have it and post it on the summit webpage. I plan to have the schedule ready by April 24. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] bugzilla.opensuse.org (was: Welcome home, www.opensuse.org)
by Gerald Pfeifer 01 May '20

01 May '20

On Mon 2020-04-27, Christian Boltz wrote: > Now we "only" need to move the forums and bugzilla (and of course > also openid), but that are different stories for the next weeks ;-) Moving bugzilla.opensuse.org/bugzilla.suse.com is in the works, with the migration away from Micro Focus planned for May. That one is more tricky since Micro Focus (Novell,...), SUSE, and openSUSE all share one database instance and part of the carve out is to separate out openSUSE and SUSE issues from all others with surgical precision. Christian and one or two others already helped test an earlier export. Thank you! Now there is a public instance available at https://bugzilla-opensuse-devel.suse.de/index.cgi If you spot any REGRESSION (that is, something no longer works) please let me know here TODAY (yes, very tight) and I'll relay. Gerald PS: Full focus is on moving this off Micro Focus, not updating, enhancing, improving yet. So let's focus in the move for now. -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com>, CTO @SUSE + chair @openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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