January 2020 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Can one manually become a "Member Emeritus"
by Stefan Seyfried 09 Aug '21

09 Aug '21

Hi all, after reading https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members, I understand that I can cancel my membership status with immediate effect and forever. To become a "Member Emeritus", with a "way back" into the community in case things might turn good again, I have to wait for the status request and just not respond to it. But the last such request was almost 3 years ago. IIUC I need to stop all actions on the mailing lists (might be a good idea ;-)) and packaging (not so good) for the bot to pick me up. So is there a manual procedure to follow to become "Member Emeritus"? Best regards, Stefan -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] huge amount of SPAM on opensuse-connect
by christian.imhorst＠posteo.de 02 Jun '21

02 Jun '21

Hi, Am Do., 21. Feb. 2019 um 15:32 Uhr schrieb Lars Vogdt <Lars.Vogdt(a)suse.com>: As such, maintaining 447 [1] openSUSE members should not depend on a single tool. Especially not if the used tool has open, well known security issues since years[2]. On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:41:19 +0100 Richard Brown wrote: > This isn't the first time I've asked this question on a public stage, > but in the hope that this time I get an answer; > Who volunteers to tackle the problem with connect.o.o and drive > forward a solution? I made my proposal already and I stand the point: shut down an insecure system! what does "drive forward a solution" mean? Can we integrate the functions of connect.o.o into other services at openSUSE which are allready maintained like the openSUSE wiki? A form for travel support for example? An application for membership could be done by e-mail to an e-mail address of the membership officials. Elections could be done with an eVote software like https://github.com/mdipierro/evote for example, but probably there are better tools. What did I miss? I think Lars is right an we should shutdown this insecure system as soon as possible. Regards Christian Imhorst -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] "Abstain" an option for future votes
by Gerald Pfeifer 22 Apr '20

22 Apr '20

On the board meeting two hours ago we discussed adding an "abstain" option to future votes. We unanimously agreed. That is, future votings shall include "abstain" as a choice. Thank you to all who provided feedback! Gerald PS: We understand board elections allow a flexible number of choices, including choosing no candidate, so we do not see this as applicable there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] NNTP gateway to forums.o@o.o
by Knurpht-openSUSE 26 Feb '20

26 Feb '20

Hi all, Since the current NNTP gateway by MicoFocus is being shutdown from Wed 19th of June, there will temporarily be none. Meanwhile some of our community members are working on replacing it, announcements about this will follow a.s.a.p. -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Board election 2019-2020 - Final candidates list
by Ish Sookun 30 Jan '20

30 Jan '20

Dear community members, It's 26 December! The call for nominations and applications for the openSUSE Board election has ended. We received four applications. The list of candidates is as follows: Alessandra de Oliveira Faria https://en.opensuse.org/User:Cabelo Sarah Julia Kriesch https://en.opensuse.org/User:AdaLovelace Simon Lees https://en.opensuse.org/User:Simotek Vinzenz Vietzke https://en.opensuse.org/User:Vinzv We thank them for stepping up and wish them all the best for the election campaign. The campaign will last for about three weeks and members can begin voting on 16 January. The election schedule is as follows: https://twitter.com/openSUSE/status/1206462985750896640/photo/1 In the coming days, we will share more information about our candidates. Should you have any question for our candidates, please feel free to ping them. Regards, Ish Sookun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Would like to take part in the vote but apparently I am not a member yet
by Maik Wagner 29 Jan '20

29 Jan '20

Dear openSUSE-Project-Team, I would like to take part in the upcoming vote and I am reading the recent discussions with great interest. I have applied for membership with my "tapwag" account but haven't received a reply yet. Would you mind checking on this? Kind regards, Maik Wagner -- Maik Wagner www.linuxandlanguages.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Board election - 3 days left
by Ish Sookun 29 Jan '20

29 Jan '20

Hi folks, Three more days to go before the ballots will be closed. If you're an openSUSE member and haven't voted in this election yet, we encourage you to do so. Those who have voted, bear in mind that you can still change your vote if you wish so, before 31 Jan 23h59 CET. Know your candidates: Alessandro de Oliveira Faria https://en.opensuse.org/User:Cabelo Simon Lees https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_2020_platform_simotek Sarah Julia Kriesch https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_2019_platform_AdaLovelace Vinzenz Vietzke https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_2019_platform_vinzv Happy voting! :) Regard, Ish Sookun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] opensuse Marketing Material
by Bernd Ritter 28 Jan '20

28 Jan '20

Hello fellow chameleons, the folks from Holarse and me will participate at the Linuxinformationstage (Linux information days) in Oldenburg, Germany in March. As we show off some cool linux gaming capabilities (laptops using openSUSE) I would love to use the opportunity and present, inform and answer questions about openSUSE as well. As I looked through the wiki I could not find any contact to ask for marketing materials for this. I've found the "Spread it"-page: https://en.opensuse.org/Category:Spread_It. Can anyone hint me to the right person, please? Cheers, Bernd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE Board election 2019-2020 - Final candidates list
by Sarah Julia Kriesch 24 Jan '20

24 Jan '20

Hi Gerald, I have created my answer based on my last Board Membership, my experience in the community and how we can benefit from all > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Januar 2020 um 10:09 Uhr > Von: "Gerald Pfeifer" <gp(a)suse.com> > An: opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org > Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE Board election 2019-2020 - Final candidates list > > [ Delayed by 2 weeks plus a night due to DNS/mail server mis-config. :-( ] > > On Thu 2019-12-26, Ish Sookun wrote: > > It's 26 December! The call for nominations and applications for the > > openSUSE Board election has ended. We received four applications. > > The list of candidates is as follows: > > Thank you, Ish! And a huge thank you to the four candidates > for stepping up and volunteering their energy and time. > > > Should you have any question for our candidates, please feel free > > to ping them. > > 1. What do you see as three, four strenghts of openSUSE that we > should cultivate and build upon? > 1) Fantastic coherence in the community 2) Great products with collaboration all over the world 3) Quality > 2. What are the top three risks you see for openSUSE? (And maybe > ideas how to tackle them?) > 1) Dependency on SUSE (humans and financials) Background: I was asked really often at open source events how another company can sponsor openSUSE. We had to say that it would not possible because all of our money is going via a SUSE credit card and the money would be lost (same with the GSoC money, which has to be transferred to other organizations because of this issue). No company wants to pay Open Source Developers with such a background of an open-source project. Therefore, most openSUSE Contributors are working for SUSE or SUSE Business Partners. This topic popped up more than 3 times during my last Board Membership (really created by SUSE employees each time!). Solution: Creation of the foundation! I had to suggest this solution more than 3 times before that was accepted by SUSE employees in the Board. I told about all the benefits how we can manage our own money then, receive new sponsors, SUSE can use more money for their own, SUSE can sponsor us continuously and we would be able to receive more Contributors. 2) openSUSE infrastructure in Provo Background: I am one of the Founders of the openSUSE Heroes Team and was allowed to coordinate our first wiki project between Germany and Provo. The openSUSE infrastructure is in Microfocus hands and they need very long to respond on issues and we are not allowed to receive access as a community. Additionally, SUSE is not part of Microfocus any more which makes it more difficult to receive good support in the future. Solution 1: Migration of all openSUSE systems from Provo to Nuremberg / Prague (perhaps missing space?) Solution 2: Migration of all openSUSE systems from Provo to any German hosting data centre with access for openSUSE Heroes 3) Bad reputation of openSUSE Leap & openSUSE Tumbleweed Background: We are the openSUSE project with many different sub-projects. We don’t offer only Linux distributions, but we are well known for that and most people are associating us with that. I had given many presentations about openSUSE during my last Board Membership and represented us at different open source events. The existing openSUSE Board does not do that very much. They have another focus at the moment. Solution: We need more openSUSE Contributors representing openSUSE and I can do that as an openSUSE Board Member again. After that, we can be one of the top Linux distributions again. 😉 > 3. What should the board do differently / more of? > The existing openSUSE Board is working mostly on the topic with the foundation. That is good. Thank you! But the role of a Board Member contains the representation of the community, too. We would have one less risk with that. > 4. If you had a blank voucher from the SUSE CEO for one wish, > what would that be? > I wish the start financing of the foundation for openSUSE. Both sides will profit from that. 🙂 > 5. What is your take on the Foundation? What do you consider > a realistic outcome of that endeavour? (And if different, what > outcome would you like to see?) > The Foundation is a benefit for SUSE and openSUSE (see risk 1). SUSE can support and contribute to us continuously. The difference is that we are open for other sponsoring companies then. Google Summer of Code money can be used for Travel Support. We can say how much money can be used for every openSUSE money (without any eye on the situation of SUSE). We can manage that all for our own. If we can accept more companies as sponsors, SUSE can invest the saved money into the own company or in other open-source projects. We become more open and that is a reason for companies to invest money into jobs as Open Source Developers for us. So the community can grow with more companies as sponsoring partners. > > Thanks, > Gerald > -- Best regards, Sarah -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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