August 2016 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Members retirement
by Michal Hrusecky 27 May '17

27 May '17

Hi everybody, as you all know, we have the openSUSE Members, a group of contributors through their sustained and substantial contributors that are eligible to participate in elections, have @opensuse.org mail and other perks. We have now about 600 of them, but as you can see[1] in last openSUSE Board elections only 150 of them voted. This could mean two things - either most of the members are not interested in elections or plenty of them are simply no longer around. I guess the truth is somewhere in middle. This is something we need to know when we take project wide decisions in order to correctly assess the communities interest in the topic. This is a recurring topic that has been discussed at the openSUSE Board Face to Face meeting last year, oSC 15, and on this list several times over the last few years. Taking these into consideration, we (in the board) think it would be a good idea to implement something to help with ensuring our Membership list accurately reflects our current Membership. I have put together a tool which attempts to detect an openSUSE Members activity on mailing lists, OBS, bugzilla, maybe more. This tool will remember when we last saw openSUSE Member on any of those channels and if they doesn't show for 6 months, we will send them an e-mail asking whether they still wants to be a member. A response to that email will automatically count as activity and preserve the Members status. If there is no response within 30 days of the notification, the Member will be 'retired' and be considered a 'Member emeritus'. If someone is retired incorrectly, or a 'Member emeritus' returns to the Project and wants a restoration of their voting privilege, they will be unretired without question by the Membership Committee. There are few implementation details to be worked out, so we don't expect this to go live overnight but consider this a "statement of intent" and an explanation of how we expect things to work before we start testing the process. ==== To answer some of the obvious questions: Q: Shouldn't we retire inactive members anyway after measuring and evaluating their activity? A: No, that would be too hard, too subjective and it could bother people that we cannot measure automatically. Automatic measurement is just an indicator that those people are no longer interested, but they might be just working on project aspects we cannot measure. openSUSE Members are members until THEY no longer want to be. We believe this system preserves that principle. Q: Wouldn't it offend active contributors if they will be falsely accused of not being interested? A: I hope not. If period will be long enough (6 months) and if we monitor even mailing lists, people will usually show up somewhere. We intend to word the 'ping' email in a way that is not judgemental, but just makes it clear that we have failed to automatically find evidence of contribution so want to make sure they are still interested in remaining a Member. Q: Doesn't it change the meaning of the openSUSE Member? A: Not really. So far once you got a membership status, it was forever without question. Now it would be forever as long as you are interested. No big change, just a little difference. Q: What if mail with warning gets lost? A: If you lose your membership by accident by losing an e-mail, you can still contact membership committee and as a retired member you will be reinstated immediately without voting/verification that takes time. And you should fix your e-mail in connect.opensuse.org in that case ;-) Q: Will retired members retain their email & IRC cloak perks? A: No, the intention is that retired members will no longer be eligible for @opensuse.org email addresses and Freenode IRC cloaks. [1] https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/49480/opensuse-board-el… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Extending permission for openSUSE shirts
by Gabor KUM - HELLOTUX 29 Aug '16

29 Aug '16

Hello, I'd like to ask you to extend the permission for making and selling embroidered openSUSE shirts at www.hellotux.com and www.pingvinbolt.hu. Still the last permission request we sold 33 pcs. Thank you, Gabor KUM owner of HELLOTUX

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[opensuse-project] opensuse-containers mailing list
by Aleksa Sarai 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

Hello, Since containers are something that we support in openSUSE, it would be great if we could have a "topic" mailing list for various container runtimes in openSUSE. Is there a process for creating a new mailinglist apart from sending an email here and hoping for the best? :P -- Aleksa Sarai Software Engineer (Containers) SUSE Linux GmbH https://www.cyphar.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Shifting the Leap 42.2 release schedule a bit
by Ludwig Nussel 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

Hi, Upstream KDE Plasma developers have announced Plasma 5.8 as LTS release which comes handy for a stable release like Leap. Unfortunately the original schedule was a bit too late for us. So after some discussions the Plasma 5.8 release was moved two weeks earlier to give us a chance to have it in 42.2. I don't feel comfortable with 5.8 dot zero in 42.2's default desktop though. I'm quite sure there will be important bugs to fix once exposed to the general public. Therefore I'd like to move the Leap release schedule two weeks later so we can have at least 5.8.1 + potential backported fixes. That means - relabel RC1 to Beta3 on Oct 6th - new RC1 will be Oct. 10th - RC2 Nov 2nd - GM Nov 10th - Release at Nov 16th cu Ludwig [1] https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2016-August/057731.html -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.com/ SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Help for 42.2 Release
by Douglas DeMaio 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

Hi all, Beta 1 for openSUSE Leap 42.2 is expected to be released next week. Please consider helping where you can for this next release. There are some paragraphs in the yast-slide-show on https://l10n.opensuse.org that could be translated. It is really easy to translate. You go to the site, sign up for an account and start translated. If you want to help with the release team, contact opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org. (The submission deadline for Beta 1 of openSUSE Leap 42.2 is Thursday, Aug. 25.) If you want to help with marketing, make sure to subscribe to opensuse-marketing(a)opensuse.org or start adding information about the coming release to https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:42.2 v/r Doug

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[opensuse-project] GPG Public Key Link
by Aleksa Sarai 21 Aug '16

21 Aug '16

Currently on the Leap 42.1 page[1], we provide just the key fingerprint and don't also provide the whole key (for the super paranoid). However, given the fact that people have concerns about key fingerprints in general[2] we should also provide a link (served over TLS) to a copy of the openSUSE project signing key. The same goes for the Tumbleweed and Leap 42.2 download pages. As a separate issue, the .sha256 files for Tumbleweed don't use the same filename as the download. This is a minor issue, but it means that you have to rename the downloaded file so you can do the regular `sha256sum -c && gpg --verify` workflow. [1]: https://software.opensuse.org/421/en [2]: https://evil32.com/ -- Aleksa Sarai Software Engineer (Containers) SUSE Linux GmbH https://www.cyphar.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Tumbleweed 20160817 signature
by Nick Mantas 19 Aug '16

19 Aug '16

Hey I just downloaded Tumbleweed 20160817 but when I try to verify the signature I get this , with gpg: gpg: Signature made Thu 18 Aug 2016 03:45:48 AM EEST using RSA key ID 3DBDC284 gpg: Can't check signature: No public key and this with sha256sum: openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Snapshot20160817-Media.iso: OK sha256sum: WARNING: 14 lines are improperly formatted Is it ok or not? -- Nick Mantas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Script for Leap
by Douglas DeMaio 17 Aug '16

17 Aug '16

Hi all, The next release of openSUSE Leap is coming along and we need some help marketing it. One solution that could be helpful would be to have a script like we have with Tumbleweed (https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2016-08/msg00256.html) that produces a list of the differences in version number from openSUSE Leap 42.1 to openSUSE Leap 42.2. It would also be great if the script could list the differences between 42.1, 42.2 and SLE 12 SP2. this will help us publicize the differences in the versions and allow us to articulate the benefits of Leap to potential new users. The scripts for Tumbleweed were written in python, so some of the script for the Leap purpose could be reused. If you would like to write this script for this and future releases of Leap, please please email the openSUSE Factory Mailing List and cc me. v/r doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Board Meeting Minutes - 11 Aug 1500 CEST
by Richard Brown 13 Aug '16

13 Aug '16

# Board Meeting Minutes 11 Aug 1500 CEST ## Present - Richard Brown - Chair - Kostas Koudaras - Tomas Chvatal - Michal Hrušecký - Andrew Wafaa (Treasurer) ## Absent - Bryan Lunduke - Rescheduled meeting incompatible with Timezone difference - Gertjan Lettink - Technical Difficulties ## General Items This meeting was carried out on Thursday 11th as too many people were absent on Monday 9th Aug ### openSUSE Asia The Board has been invited to give a keynote at openSUSE Asia - Bryan Lunduke will be attending and providing the keynote The Board is aware the CFP for openSUSE Asia has been well responded to, but not from Europe - CALL FOR HELP - If you are from Europe and interested in doing a talk at openSUSE, please submit your talk now! ### Travel Support Programme Andrew will be on vacation during the busiest period for openSUSE Asia TSP applications. Michal & Gertjan are considering whether they can help cover this period. ### Bugzilla The Board have recieved a complaint regarding a bugzilla contributor using very abrasive language and attacking other contributors in comments. AI: Michal to write a warning email. ### Brasil Aslan C. de M. Ramos (aslan.ramos(a)suse.com) has stepped up to encorage and boost the openSUSE community in Brasil. If you're in Brasil and interested in representing openSUSE at local events, please get in touch with Aslan. ### LinuxCon NA & Europe SUSE are Platinium sponsors of both events, and due to the community nature of LinuxCon want to make sure openSUSE is a big part of their presence there. For LinuxCon NA in a few weeks openSUSE will have a significant portion of the booth and several demo machines showing openSUSE Tumbleweed & Leap. For LinuxCon Europe plans are still being discussed but a similar strong openSUSE presence is expected. Anyone who happens to be going to either event and is willing to help out please contact rbrown(a)suse.com ### GSoC Mentors Google are sponsoring a summit for GSoC mentors. There is budget to send two people, but there was 3 candidates. The GSoC mentors all agreed on the name of one of the mentors who would go, but asked the Board to conduct a lottery to decide on the second person. We're happy to be able to say that Hernan Schmidt and Christopher Bruckmayer will be going to the GSoC Mentors summit to represent openSUSE. Thanks to them and all of our GSoC mentors for making this a great summer for our GSoCers. ### Trademark Request The Board have heard from the members with the outstanding Trademark request. Local legal requirements complicate our proposed solution. Negotiations ongoing. ### Membership Tidyup No action as Michal is busy moving house ### Infrastructure The Board is really pleased to see the new "openSUSE Heroes" team stepping up to help improve the situation with our infrastructure. https://news.opensuse.org/2016/07/25/introducing-opensuse-heroes/ AI: Board to monitor the situation - Richard to continuing having regular meetings with Roland and Lars to drive progress in this area. ### SLE Packages The Board has spotted a number of cases in Leap 42.2 Alpha 2 where packages inherited from SLE are newer than the ones available in Tumbleweed or Devel Repos. Reminders seem to have helped, but problem still ongoing. AI: Richard to send both general and directed reminders internally at SUSE to remind them of the SUSE company policy to contribute to Tumbleweed before/in parralel/in sync with their work on SLE. ## Action Item Review Due to the large number of action items, the progress of these will be split into 3 sections - DONE; This task is complete and will not be discussed in future meetings - WIP; This task is in progress, and will be discussed in future meetings - TODO; This task is still waiting for some progress by the Board ### DONE ### WIP Board + Ludwig to figure out what to do with all the Volunteers for the "openSUSE Release Team" *Richard & Ludwig to discuss* Board is discussing some ideas with our various Desktop Teams Michal is retiring connect.opensuse.org and doing the Membership tooling and maintenance. Tomas has talked with Craig about OBS team preparing the code for maintaner tidyup *Feature in OBS teams TODO* Bryan has started arrange informal exploratory discussions with ownCloud, nextCloud and Kolab about closer relationships. Had some good chats at oSC 16. *Bryan to keep driving* Kostas is reaching out to our few bloggers on lizards.opensuse.org about moving to other platforms. Richard has been talking to Douglas about the possibility of moving news.opensuse.org to a new blogging platform. Richard's personal blog is running a potential candidate (Jekyll with custom openSUSE theme. http://rootco.de ### TODO Board to request release-team(a)opensuse.org list for the Release Team Board to investigate alternatives for voting & membership management _To be done after the Membership Tidy Up_ Tomas will investigate Helios voting system for openSUSE Richard to review/tune up filtering in current system so trademark enquiries don't get lost Tomas will talk with Andrew and Marketing teams about possible Kickstarter Board intends to create a skeleton of the getting started guides to help people get started with Using, Joining, and Partnering with openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [SCALE 15X] CFP open now: Want to speak at SCALE 15X?
by PatrickD Garvey 02 Aug '16

02 Aug '16

I received the Southern California Linux Expo [SCALE] Call For Papers notice yesterday (31 Jul 2016). It is copied here for your edification. ---------- Get those presentations ready! The Call for Papers for the 15th Annual Southern California Linux Expo =E2=80=93 SCALE 15X =E2=80=93 is currently u= nderway for the largest volunteer-run Free/Open Source Software and Hardware conference in North America. The Call for Presentations opened earlier this month and runs through midnight Pacific Standard Time on Nov. 15. Submit early to avoid the last-minute rush. As the event has every year, SCALE 15X will have a wide variety of tracks available, and a list of tracks -- as well as instructions on how to submit -- are listed on the SCALE 15X CFP page at http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/15x/cfp?utm_source=3Dphplist146&utm_med= ium=3Demail&utm_content=3Dtext&utm_campaign=3D%5BSCALE+15X%5D+CFP+open+now%= 3A+Want+to+speak+at+SCALE+15X%3F SCALE 15X will be held from March 2-5, 2017, at the Pasadena Convention Center in Pasadena, California, near Los Angeles. More information will be available as it become confirmed on the SCALE 15X website at http://www.socallinuxexpo.org?utm_source=3Dphplist146&utm_medium=3Demail&ut= m_content=3Dtext&utm_campaign=3D%5BSCALE+15X%5D+CFP+open+now%3A+Want+to+spe= ak+at+SCALE+15X%3F ---------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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