August 2015 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] https://identi.ca/opensuse
by PatrickD Garvey 15 Aug '15

15 Aug '15

What is the status of https://identi.ca/opensuse? It doesn't look very active, "2 years ago via feed To: Public Within two weeks, in thessaloniki, the openSUSE Conference will start off again. Like last year, we have not only an a…" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] The weekly review: LibreOffice 5 in Tumbleweed, Leap trends, landing page almost ready
by PatrickD Garvey 15 Aug '15

15 Aug '15

>From https://news.opensuse.org/2015/08/13/the-weekly-review-libreoffice-5-in-tum… "Tumbleweed had four snapshots since our last weekly review, upgraded to a newer Kernel and has the latest LibreOffice 5, while Leap’s roadmap was published and version 42 is a trending topic on the Factory mailing list." I have read nothing in opensuse-announce about a new kernel and a new LibreOffice being a part of Tumbleweed. I assume the schedule published in https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap is for Leap, although that page says, "The next scheduled version of openSUSE is in the process of being named, ...". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] My comments regarding the landing page
by Javier Llorente 08 Aug '15

08 Aug '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/15 12:56, Carlos E. R. wrote: [...] > The naming of the language as "castellano" is a relatively recent > political decision (pushed by Catalunya and others) that has never > caught with the masses, valid only for Spain, and is of course not > followed by the rest of the Spanish speaking countries. It is akin > to calling French Provençal. > > So, does openSUSE wants to enter a political nightmare by calling > Spanish Castilian? Why would it be a political nightmare? As you know, there are different Spanish variants. Some Latin-American countries use "castellano" or "español" indifferently. Furthermore, Spain's constitution states that castellano is the official language. Castilian is the most spoken Spanish language ;-) Greetings, - -- Javier Llorente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlXDlboACgkQdV3zWWOPFxTaKQCbB7WD766k2iplo/QFD/fLvx+3 jaQAnA5/QFmSzW30kKITssCbWxicWg9M =oqhb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Leap Freeze Point
by Douglas DeMaio 05 Aug '15

05 Aug '15

Hi all, this story was published today - https://news.opensuse.org/2015/08/05/the-weekly-review-tumbleweed-and-leap/… A few takeaway items you might all be interested in regarding Leap. 61 upgraded packages were in the last snapshot and about a handful were fixes made for Leap. The roadmap for Leap will likely be published next week. It looks like the release of Leap will be on Nov. 4 at 14:00 UTC, but some other things need to happen before we confirm Nov. 4 officially as the release date. An important date that can be mentioned about Leap right now is Sept. 20. This is the tentatively the freeze point for items to be included in the Leap Beta. Artwork for Leap like Grub, Plymouth or other items can be submitted through github by cloning the Leap-42.1 branch in openSUSE branding and submit a pull request to @sysrich. A branch was also started for Tumbleweed, so anyone wanting to advance the visual appearance of both openSUSE distributions is welcome (links in the article). All the best Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Windows 10: A window of opportunity
by Jay 04 Aug '15

04 Aug '15

As Windows 10 is being launched, details emerge what comes along with it. Just read (1). You will have an opinion on that. But as nightmarish as this may seem, it also opens a huge "Window" of opportunity for openSUSE and OpenSource in general. What came to my mind here is a campaign to make potential users aware of major benefits of openSUSE / OpenSource: - we don't spy on you - we don't sell your privacy - we don't handcuff you Take that as a short sketch. This could be a campaign just for openSUSE - like a banner on openSUSE.org - or one that is conducted by and coordinated between the major distros and perhaps other organizations. Thoughts? Rainer Fiebig (1) https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your-personal-data-abused/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Privacy lost to data mining?
by greg.freemyer＠gmail.com 03 Aug '15

03 Aug '15

I don't know as much about this as I should, but these seem to be the basics: - late 20th century google started data mining websites in a novel way. Everyone thought it was a good thing. - around 2005 Google introduced gmail for free, but openly told everyone they were going to data mine the emails to see what kind of things the owner of the mailbox was interested in. - since then Google has gotten more and more aggressive and now appears to mine gmail mailboxes to build a profile about non-gmail users as well. It also is scanning blogs, blog comments, LinkedIn and Twitter. Basically anything they can actually see they data mine. Along those lines they offer Google analytics as a free service that gives them great visibility into people's web browsing activity even if they somehow manage to avoid using any Google services themselves and also avoid interaction with anyone with a gmail account. - as of yesterday(Aug 1), Microsoft has officially joined the game: Microsoft Privacy Statement https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx Microsoft Services Agreement https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/servicesagreement/default.aspx These new policies grant Microsoft broad data mining rights into your computer. Simply using any of the below services means you accept the new agreement: Account.microsoft.com Advertising.microsoft.com Bing Apps Bing Desktop Bing Dictionary Bing in the Classroom Bing Input Bing Maps Bing Navigation Bing Reader Bing Rewards Bing Search app Bing Toolbar Bing Torque Bing Translator Bing Webmaster Bing Wikipedia Browser Bing.com Bing Bingplaces.com Choice.microsoft.com Citizen Next Cortana Default Homepage and New Tab Page on Microsoft Edge Device Health App Groove HealthVault Maps App Microsoft account Microsoft Family Microsoft Health Microsoft Translator Microsoft Wallpaper Microsoft XiaoIce MSN Dial Up MSN Explorer MSN Food & Drink MSN Health & Fitness MSN Money MSN News MSN Premium MSN Sports MSN Travel MSN Weather MSN.com Next Lock Screen Office 365 Consumer Office 365 Home Office 365 Personal Office 365 University Office Online Office Store Office Sway Office.com OneDrive.com OneDrive Onenote.com OneNote Outlook.com Picturesque Lock Screen Pix Lock Skype in the Classroom Skype Manager Skype Qik Skype WiFi Skype.com Skype Smart Search Snipp3t Spreadsheet Keyboard Sway.com Translator UrWeather Windows Live Mail Windows Live Writer Windows Movie Maker Windows Photo Gallery Xbox and Windows Games published by Microsoft Xbox Live Xbox Music Pass Xbox Music Xbox Video >From what I can see Microsoft's new invasion of privacy is basically retroactive. The only way to avoid it is to quit using any of the above if you currently do. I often use bing, skype, Microsoft store and office365. === Hopefully using openSUSE reduces some of Microsoft's and Google's effectiveness, but all of us interact with users of Google and Microsoft services. What steps can openSUSE as a project and as individuals do to reduce our Google and Microsoft visible footprint? Is it too late to try? Greg -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Windows 10: A window of opportunity
by jdd 02 Aug '15

02 Aug '15

Le 02/08/2015 19:29, Richard Brown a écrit : > You are entitled to your opinion, but there is plenty of research from > respected experts on the topic who all state that motivations for > joining open source projects are normally not altruistic, and are > normally due to selfish reasons, like being able to scratch their own itch I think we have a vocabulary problem. searching for as much audience as possible have nothing to do with altruism. There is a manageable benefit that is described in your link: recognition and ego (and more) > The year is 2015. Open source has established itself as A major, if not > THE major way of developing software. sincerely, who cares? You are too much thinking as a developer. I really think that all yours arguments are *against* your thesis. We do *not* need to search for developers, we have them. Every developer knows what open source is, and if you can't give money, you wont catch windows developers. If you don't want a distro's war, you can't bring other distros developers, so where do you think you are going to find one? be clear on that. We need to have a clear story to > distinguish us from the millions of other open source projects people can > now contribute to. "We're special because we're openSUSE and we have > users who make us special" just doesn't mean anything any more..I'm not > sure it ever did.. I never said so, and I completely agree with this. we have to ask the question: what do we have special? how can we make it better? We (don't know who, really), with OBS, QA, studio, made an enormous effort to the developers and this didn't bring more contributors according to what yourself said. > Agreed. How about we agree to call this "Engagement" like the GNOME > Project does instead of Marketing yes. May be look at what "volunteer match" do :-) http://www.volunteermatch.org/ > Next, I do not believe working as part of a team appeals to everyone I do not take "team" as the very restricted meaning we have now. For me openSUSE project *is* a team. What else? , > and i think the Project should be structured in a way which encourages > both individual contributions (working collaboratively, but not > necessarily as part of a team) as well as more structured group work individuals already do what they want, if this is for openSUSE, so good, if not so bad, we can't do anything to that, so the only thing we can do is try to find some way to have people do what *we*, as a project, do. 64 people answered to my poll https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/jdd_sysop/48150/are-you-still-an… why did they? > We should accept that there are very real, very tangible, and often very > selfish reasons people contribute to open source, and we should do our > best to Engage with them so openSUSE becomes a natural focal point for > those contributions which can help us grow and succeed I don't see any apart hiring them for a salary... can you do that. I know few people do things for altruist reasons, but read your own links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_movement#Motivations_of_Programme… (I read "the cathedral and the bazaar in the 1995's) > Good, and I hope you find reasons to think it's special beyond empty > words. I know they sounds nice, but its really important openSUSE has > real reasons upon which people are drawn to, use our stuff, and engage > with our project. > and what reason do you find over what is listed in wikipedia? what mean for you "targeting makers", you say this for several month and what is it about? I don't think it's the major goal, but it's a goal, of course. thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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