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Re: [opensuse-project] Membership part II
by Wolfgang Hahnl 25 Feb '12

25 Feb '12

Hello Team, I have read you discussion. There are a lot pros and cons. We have to have all this more simple. And I think I have missed something. So I have to ask some questions (Q) and will give some answers (A). These is my way of thinking: 1. Q: What are our main tasks? A1: To get openSUSE going to "create one of the world's best Linux distributions". [http://en.opensuse.org/Main_Page] A2: To get more help, to do this. [[Portal:How to participate]] A3: To get mor atractive for more peole? "It is great for beginners, experienced users and ultra geeks alike, in short, it is perfect for everybody!" [[Main Page]] 2. Q: How have we to do this? A: Contibutions from a lot of *active* poeple! 3. Q: What are the activities to get openSUSE to the future? Q1: Chating in chatrooms or on mailinglists, to chat because someone likes to chat? A1: No. It has to be an addition, but is not basic work. Q2: What are basic works? A2: Work within the different teams: On the page: Portal:Teams I count 42 teams (plus local groups) Q3: Can we get a short overview about the contributions of the named contributors? A3: Yes, but it needs some time. 4. Q: Are there any rules to get a member? A: 1. You have to contribute to get openSUSE going. It is the entrance fee. 2. There are additional rules und you have to accept this rules. 3. If you ask for membership, you accept this rules und have paid your fee. 4. It have to be an honor, to get a membership! 5. Q: What are the hurdels? They are low? How low? Q1: One to X contributions per year? Q2: One to X contributions per month, to average? Q3: One to X contributions per week, to average? Q4: One to X contributions per day, to average? A1: It has to be the entrance fee!!! The hurdle hase to be decided and published. 6. Q: When does the membership ends? A: If you don't pay your fee in the predetermined level, over a predetermined time and if you don't accept the rules any more! I think clear rules like this have to be descibed. Best regards Slughorn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] project meeting minutes
by Robert Schweikert 24 Feb '12

24 Feb '12

(01:40:42 PM) bugbot has changed the topic to: Welcome to the openSUSE Project Channel | For support /join #opensuse | Next Project Meeting is 22 Feb @ 1800 UTC (http://bit.ly/zjQqDF) (01:40:42 PM) bugbot: Meeting ended Wed Feb 22 18:40:42 2012 UTC. The log and minutes are available from: (v 0.1.4) (01:40:42 PM) bugbot: Minutes: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2012/opensuse-proje… (01:40:42 PM) bugbot: Minutes (text): http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2012/opensuse-proje… (01:40:42 PM) bugbot: Log: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2012/opensuse-proje… Also note it was decided that the meeting would be moved 1 hour backwards, i.e. 20:00 UTC and that we will stick to a 1 hour duration. Additionally we will only discuss things that are on the agenda. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Membership part II
by Wolfgang Hahnl 23 Feb '12

23 Feb '12

Hi Brian Am 23.02.2012 19:37, schrieb Bryen M Yunashko: > On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 18:36 +0100, Wolfgang Hahnl wrote: >> I have read you discussion. There are a lot pros and cons. >> We have to have all this more simple. And I think I have missed >> something. >> So I have to ask some questions (Q) and will give some answers (A). >> These is my way of thinking: > > Sorry but I think you have overly-complicated the topic instead of > simplifying it. The question that was posed was what to do about all > those members who are no longer actively involved in the community in > any way at all. The focus of the question is not how to build and grow > the community, but how to resolve what is essentially a membership > accounting question. Nothing more, nothing less. Sorry, objection your honor. I would like to see the whole process. There are a lot of depencies. Please think twice. > > And by the way, you reference contribution as "building the greatest > distribution." This is not my idea. Have you seen the source, were I got this? It is on the Main Page in [...] > > So please, don't narrow down the definition of contributor to just our > distro. That would alienate a number of our existing contributors in a > very adverse way, and send a bad message that we only appreciate people > who help with the distro and nothing else under the Project umbrella. I think it is for openSUSE membership? But there are people who have to decide. Not me. These are only my ideas to simplify things and to descibe a pattern. Thanks Slughorn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] CLT in Chemnitz 17./18. March 2012
by Kai-Uwe Behrmann 22 Feb '12

22 Feb '12

Anyone interessted to organise the openSUSE booth and bring green covers, LiveCDs and all the fun? I will present openSUSE colour management on a Oyranos booth and want to measure devices. kind regards Kai-Uwe -- www.oyranos.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 18:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 18:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=22&month=2&year=2012&h… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] BTW
by Togan Muftuoglu 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

In-Reply-To: <CAABAGrX_tmu4jQPUAE6iU8Ai-M5_Kkn5WtxX+Xp0tG2PZbrENQ(a)mail.gmail.com> On 02/09/12 at 10:54pm, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Koushik Kumar Nundy <kknundy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 7 February 2012 02:26, Jos Poortvliet <jos(a)opensuse.org> wrote: > >> > >> If I don't reply to mails in the next hours - I'm attempting an in-place > >> upgrade of my 32-bit system to 64. Just to see if Zypper et all. like me > >> :D > >> > > Please document the process. I would like to do something like that on my > > Li-f-e box too. > > My advice: don't. > > Ok, I managed, but only with an openSUSE DVD and quite a few hours of > un-breaking my system ;-) > > The idea is that you first do the kernel, than reboot, do > zypper/rpm/etc and the rest. But after doing the kernel it missed the > modules to mount my root so game over there... Interesting, I have done it many times with no side effects as yet. I start with editing /etc/zypp/zypp.conf where it describes the architecture which is normally autodetected there I put x86_64 then run zypper ref followed by zypper dup and finaly reboot with 64. Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Summit's the name, Florida's the game!
by Bryen M Yunashko 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

Just a quick note to let you all know that the recent poll to name the openSUSE event in Florida is now completed and we have a name! openSUSE Summit Now that we have a name, I can formally re-organize the notes that are spread in different places and tie it all into a way we can follow easier. I promise I'll link you to all that in the next day or so. Thanks for all your votes. It was a pretty decent turnout. Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] LinuxTag 2012
by Jos Poortvliet 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

Heya all, The linuxtag wiki page is up: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:LinuxTag_2012 If you want to go, please register yourself there. I think its cool if all geekos are in one location, I've put Motel One there as a common hotel. It ain't too expensive and the location is fine. But for those short on cash - I can host 2-4 people (provided you're not afraid to have to share a 2-person bed with a fellow geeko...). If you give a talk - add it too! If you wonder about travel sponsorship, as you can read on the Travel Support Program page: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Travel_Support_Program LinuxTag is unlikely to have people sponsored to be there as there will be quite a Geeko Crew anyway so it is low priority. That does not mean you can't apply - if you really wouldn't be able to make it without some financial support and can make a very valuable contribution to LinuxTag it is certainly worth asking. We do need people to man the booth - that'll get you a ticket for LinuxTag too. Be there! /Jos

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Participation in GSOC 2012 & Introducing myself
by Athanasios-Ilias Rousinopoulos 20 Feb '12

20 Feb '12

My name is Athanasios-Ilias Rousinopoulos (aka Zoumpis). Currently i am a first year Master Degree student , studying Free Software in King Juan Carlos University (Madrid-Spain, URJC). I live in Madrid in Spain but i come from Greece. Furthermore i speak 3 languages : Greek (as mother tongue) , English (Level C1) , Spanish (Level B2). I am a member of openSUSE Ambassador Team since April 2011 and also participated in conferences ,events (making presentation, booth staff , organizing events). Furthermore i have been the openSUSE Medical Project Coordinator (from July 2011 to November 2011) , i quited due to my Master Studies. During this period i did use the SUSE Studio platform (so as to create appliances) and used KIWI as well. Untill now i am an active member of openSUSE Community. During my graduate studies i programmed into many languages (C, C++ , Java , PHP) but i found Python interesting as well. Furthermore my tesis was dealing with eyeOS Web Operating System (actually developing applications). After having a look at the ideas for this year and considering the fact that i found Python very interesting (actually i programm in Python more in than the other languages the last six months), i am very interested at the following ones : * Support for Bitbake in OBS - Although i don't have experience with packaging tools i have downloaded the openembedded documentation and installed all the appropiate packages. Currently i study the documentation and start making my own recipe(s). * AppStream: Reviews in software center * Upstream/downstream tracker In what refers at "AppStream " and "Upstream/downstream tracker" i have devoloped a web crawler in Python and i believe that Bitbake is also a kind of cross distribution collaboration tool. So i am interested in cross-distribution collaboration tools as well. On the one hand I will not say that i program like a guru or like a begginer on the other hand i can promise i will do my best so as to come up with the project. Furthermore my expirience untill now in the community and the Master studies in Free software as well will be helpful to handle and finishing the project in time. Finally i believe that participating in one of the projects above would be beneficial for the openSUSE Project and me as well due to the fact that i will improve my programming skills and develop a tool that will be usefull for the community. Best regards, Athanasios-Ilias Rousinopoulos -- About Me-- http://zoumpis.wordpress.com https://github.com/athanrous http://en.opensuse.org/User:Zoumpis http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Medical_team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Membership part II
by Lee Matheson 18 Feb '12

18 Feb '12

WRT a reason why a member sometimes will not vote .... sometimes timing wrt family and work (plus vacation away from the Internet) can 'conspire' together to cause one's good intentions to vote, not to work out. One may, for example, have reviewed 1/2 of the issue needed to be reviewed prior to voting, only to have the unexpected 'steal one's time', and the deadline then pass by the time one recalls its important to vote before a specific date. Shall we penalize members in such a case by removing their membership? Hence I think the question is NOT why someone might not want to vote, but rather it is "name a reason why one can not vote", ... and I hope that I just did, ... ie on occasions the best laid plans to vote, do not work out. On a different (but related) note ... this is an excellent an I believe most useful mailing list thread, and most interesting. Lee aka oldcpu

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