September 2011 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-ambassadors] openSUSE Magazine
by differentreality 19 Sep '11

19 Sep '11

Hey :) @Kim: Cool, hope to see something ready soon! Regarding Stuart's remarks, I am not sure if we can currently support a periodical issue, however, we can start with this one issue regarding past year openSUSE experience and see how it goes, right? We are already thinking about design/graphics and sponsors, but personally I think it is a little too early for that. I believe we should first start gathering some material and when we have at least half the articles we need, then we can also focus on the other aspects too. So basically my idea is, let's get to work regarding articles and the sooner we have them the better so as to start preparing the other details too. Our timeline here is little limited too, we want to do something in the next couple months, we wouldn't want for it to take longer. On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Stuart Tanner <stuart(a)bolin.org.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 07:43 +0200, Peter Michl wrote: >> Am Freitag, 16. September 2011, 17:58:02 schrieb differentreality: >> > Hi all! >> > >> > One of the ideas that popped up during the marketing hackfest here >> > today was that of making an openSUSE magazine with focus on the >> > conference proceedings and the cool stuff that happened since the last >> > conference. The magazine would contain articles on the main highlights >> > of the past year (Year is the time period between two conferences), >> > interviews with key people, reviews and articles about the current >> > conference etc. >> > >> > We would like to get a feedback on the idea and a few key topics that >> > you think should be covered. Any authors who want to help with >> > articles, please say so on the mailing list as we need more people to >> > work on the articles. The topics, however, should focus on either key >> > events that took place since last conference (like tumbleweed, >> > evergreen, connect etc) or should be an article about oSC11 (or any >> > particular session of it). We would also like a few miscellaneous >> > topics that relates to openSUSE and linux at large. >> > >> > I hope all of you would like the idea and would contribute to our >> > efforts to make openSUSE even more famous and awesome. Please let us >> > know your thoughts (& your willingness to help). >> > >> > For additional info you can reply to the mailing list or send an email >> > to differentreality(a)gmail.com ( plz use as subject: openSUSE magazine >> > ) >> > >> > Regards, >> > N.B.Prashanth - nbprash.mit(a)gmail.com >> > Stella Rouzi - differentreality(a)gmail.com >> >> Hi all, >> >> I think it would be fine to tell about success stories, so that newbies can >> see that openSUSE is a serious operating system, not only for private use. >> This would include, that we also tell about former dristributions. The >> conclusion should be that openSUSE is in commercial use, so this can`t be bad >> to use it on my private desktop too. >> >> Regards, >> Greyhoundde >> OpenSUSE Ambassador >> peter-vitus.michl(a)t-online.de > > > Could this include stories from SuSE Linux Professional as well as > openSUSE because how much difference is their between the two for end > users other than updates and such. > > We really do need something to be able to give to users promoting us > specifically over Ubuntu and Windows. > > On a daily basis I get an equal amount of "I am happy with Windows" as I > do "I already use Linux 10. somat or "Ubuntu". > > Stuart > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help(a)opensuse.org > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-ambassadors] openSUSE Magazine
by differentreality 18 Sep '11

18 Sep '11

Hey all! Sorry for the late response, long travelling hours and still trying to get settled :) I am really happy that we already have people replying, giving ideas and ready to help out. As this is a totally new idea we highly value opinions and ideas. @Chuck: Technical articles like that are certainly useful. Please let me know with which article you would like to begin! - Regarding tips&tricks this is also great for weekly news and at the same time maybe we can find useful tips/tricks in older weekly news issues and use them all together - some of them are not too long articles and the subject is definitely interesting. Do you think you could take this up on you as well and prepare something for a tips&tricks section of the magazine? @Kim: People's view is very important and I believe would also personalize the magazine. So I would say go for it! Clarification: when you say documentary, are you thinking video or written interview - because documentary brings video in my mind but we need articles/writing. So how are you thinking of beginning this? @piyoosh: Yep, it will definitely *not* include just events. It will certainly have a large variety of topics related to openSUSE, that's why we need ideas from all of you. @Elson: sure, help and motivation for new users I believe is always something we want, right? Step-by-step tutorials, tips&tricks for users are all very useful things. Do you have something specific in mind? Could you prepare a relevant article? Or do we have any interesting articles already written which we could perhaps edit if needed and use? @Mike: perfect, if you want to write something please feel free to do so, otherwise as soon as we organize all the ideas we could make some proposals on subjects that need articles and you can choose, what do you think? @Tanmaya: Absolutely, release related articles are generally needed, so yes, please get right to it. I assume you could write something about 12.1 release? @Peter: Success stories are always something positive and we definitely want positiveness in our magazine, right? Do you have something specific in mind you could put in writing? I would like to point out that it is amazing how many nice ideas we got and I really hope we can see some articles as well soon. Many articles could also be used immediately and be issued in weekly news or news.opensuse.org and when time comes of course to our magazine! As we still have not concluded regarding the exact structure of the magazine we don't really know exactly how many articles we will need for each subject etc. It could be the case that we might need not to use some articles, *but* this should not discourage absolutely anyone from writing because we will surely use your article one way or the other! The first step for the magazine is to get some context for it - your articles that is :) We will have a variety of subjects, from technical to simple things for newbies and we will focus on communities, individuals as well as events that have taken place. Maybe this is also a good chance for ambassadors to send something like a review regarding events that took place in their city/country? What do ambassadors think about that? We are still open for ideas and with Prashanth we will be processing all that info really soon (plz give us a couple of days as we just got back from Germany) and we will put everything together so that everyone knows where we stand on subjects. In the meantime, we are looking forward to receiving your articles and if you need any kind of clarification or assistance please let us know. I think if we can get an article for all the above subjects that all of you mentioned it is an excellent start for our magazine-effort :) Thanks to all, Stella Rouzi (aka differentreality) On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Kim Leyendecker <kimleyendecker(a)hotmail.de> wrote: > Am 17.09.2011 18:39, schrieb jdd: >> >> Le 17/09/2011 18:30, Kim Leyendecker a écrit : >> >>> you think so? Maybe as a series? >>> >> yearly magazine! > > hm, then forget about the series... > > -- > -o) Kim Leyendecker > /\\ openSUSE Ambassador, openSUSE Wiki Team DE > _\_v http://www.opensuse.org - Linux for open minds > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help(a)opensuse.org > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-ambassadors] openSUSE Magazine
by Piyoosh Mukhija 17 Sep '11

17 Sep '11

I believe it'd be a good idea to not just include events, but some tutorials/troubleshooters as well. In such a case, the magazine can be more attractive to the new/novice openSUSE/Linux users. Regards, Piyoosh Mukhija http://piyoosh.mukhija.info Regards, Piyoosh Mukhija http://piyoosh.mukhija.info On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Piyoosh Mukhija <piyoosh(a)mukhija.info> wrote: > > I believe it'd be a good idea to not just include events, but some tutorials/troubleshooters as well. In such a case, the magazine can be more attractive to the new/novice openSUSE/Linux users. > > Regards, > Piyoosh Mukhija > http://piyoosh.mukhija.info > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:28 PM, differentreality <differentreality(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all! >> >> One of the ideas that popped up during the marketing hackfest here >> today was that of making an openSUSE magazine with focus on the >> conference proceedings and the cool stuff that happened since the last >> conference. The magazine would contain articles on the main highlights >> of the past year (Year is the time period between two conferences), >> interviews with key people, reviews and articles about the current >> conference etc. >> >> We would like to get a feedback on the idea and a few key topics that >> you think should be covered. Any authors who want to help with >> articles, please say so on the mailing list as we need more people to >> work on the articles. The topics, however, should focus on either key >> events that took place since last conference (like tumbleweed, >> evergreen, connect etc) or should be an article about oSC11 (or any >> particular session of it). We would also like a few miscellaneous >> topics that relates to openSUSE and linux at large. >> >> I hope all of you would like the idea and would contribute to our >> efforts to make openSUSE even more famous and awesome. Please let us >> know your thoughts (& your willingness to help). >> >> For additional info you can reply to the mailing list or send an email >> to differentreality(a)gmail.com ( plz use as subject: openSUSE magazine >> ) >> >> Regards, >> N.B.Prashanth - nbprash.mit(a)gmail.com >> Stella Rouzi - differentreality(a)gmail.com >> -- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help(a)opensuse.org >> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] List of openSUSE mirrors?
by Per Jessen 17 Sep '11

17 Sep '11

I know I can see the list of mirrors here: http://mirrors.opensuse.org/ This is also divided into products (I guess not all mirrors mirror everything). Is there a text-format mirror list available anywhere? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (23.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Weekly News 193 coming soon...
by Sascha Manns 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

Hello Mates, don't worry about this mail. I just would like to remind that our next openSUSE Weekly News 193 comes out at Saturday evening (UTC +2). Until Saturday 08:00:00 (CEST) +0200 UTC you can propose Articles, Links and all such stuff for integrating into the Weekly News. For people who don't want to write it in XML, you can use our Pad: http://os-news.ietherpad.com/2. I've planned to send this Mail each Wednesday to remind on the Weekly News. Have a lot of fun :-) -- Sincerely Yours Sascha Manns open-slx Community & Support Agent openSUSE Membership Comitee openSUSE Marketing Team Web: http://saigkill.homelinux.net German Community Portal: http://community.open-slx.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Proposal for http://en.opensuse.org/
by Sherry.Williams＠topspot-promotions.net 13 Sep '11

13 Sep '11

Dear Webmaster, My name is Sherry, and my company Topspot-Promotions represents online sport sites in various domains. We are looking at reputable sites to offer them profitable opportunities to help promote some of my clients sites. We would like to know if you are interested in working with us on this. For further details please don't hesitate to contact me. Cheers, Sherry Williams Advertising Consultant Business Development Department Sherry.Williams(a)topspot-promotions.net http://www.topspot-promotions.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] packaging rules
by Alin Marin Elena 12 Sep '11

12 Sep '11

Hi All, in the last few days we had a small flood, a trickle compared with Noah's, on the mailing list about some package distributing religious content. The discussion got hijacked by personal views totally ignoring the fact that we already have guidelines for these situations... http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_guidelines#Legal Some examples of content which are not permissible: ..... Religious texts ..... We shall decide what we should do. 1. Scrap the rule or 2. Apply the rule. Alin -- Without Questions there are no Answers! _____________________________________________________________________ Alin Marin ELENA Advanced Molecular Simulation Research Laboratory School of Physics, University College Dublin ---- Ardionsamblú Móilíneach Saotharlann Taighde Scoil na Fisice, An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://alin.elenaworld.net ______________________________________________________________________

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[opensuse-project] Religious and political views in packages
by Sascha Peilicke 11 Sep '11

11 Sep '11

Hello everyone, sr#81625 want's to add 'sword', a bible study tool to openSUSE:Factory. While that is totally fine, the spec file %description contains stuff like: +The SWORD Project is an effort to create an ever expanding software package for +research and study of God and His Word. While I don't care much for that particular bedtime story, others may well be offended by biased religious views (even more so if their's differing). Of course, this may equally apply to policitcal views or offensive words. I have the feeling that openSUSE should take neutral stance, be inviting and open for everyone (and we're quite good at that already). But I'm not sure if we should provide a stage for non-technical biased views. Even less so for those with a mission. Thus, the question I'd like to ask is whether we should allow such formulations or not. Do we already have policy for that or do we care at all? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Sascha Peilicke

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[opensuse-project] Re: Formal complaint
by Markus Slopianka 10 Sep '11

10 Sep '11

> I will say I find the above comment (among others) insulting to me > personally and hope the board makes note of my personal complaint. And I complain that I was singled out and that my mail address was the only one sent to the board even though I was hardly the only one in that thread who does not believe in invisible beings for whom there is no scientific evidence for. > C. S. Lewis being one of the better known converts from Atheism to > Christianity. > His conversion took place as an adult. It took place because he began a > project to explore the fictional nature of the christian religion and > expose it to the world. Instead he came to the conclusion it was valid Usually I don't care about religious people around me, just as I don't care for that bible package discussed in that mailing list thread (I was merely replying that atheists usually don't feel offended but supporters of other religions might feel offended for only including Christian software in openSUSE) but writing on a public mailing list and to me personally that Christianity is (quote) "valid" surely sounds like an attempt of Christian conversation to me. Not only was I singled out in the complaint, I now also feel like a victim of a conversation attempt and THAT offends me. Markus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-project] Religious and political views in packages
by aledr 10 Sep '11

10 Sep '11

Is this thread what it meant to be? Starting a discussion about not offending people with biased religious views, taking neutral stance, but using words like 'bedtime story', fairytales, imaginary beings, ... seems to be a frustrated try that would be better to never happen. I must say that It is a funny rationale, to not say tragic. On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Michael Meeks <michael.meeks(a)novell.com> wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 12:50 +0200, Ciaran Farrell wrote: >> Some examples of content which are not permissable: >> * Comic book art files >> * Religious text >> * mp3 files (patent encumbered > > It should be pointed out that SWORD itself is not a religious text, it > is software for reading such texts :-) Indeed, I have no doubt it could > be made Cthulhu compatible (or whatever) with little effort. I suspect > including religious texts offends some minority of militant athiests / > secularists who make it a hot topic. Including such material in > proportion to its relevance seems entirely reasonable to me (as a biased > Christian of course ;-) > > Then again - if people are easily offended they probably need to read > the 'fortune -o' output in a tight loop until a healthy sense of humour, > and an appreciation for the ridiculous starts to develop :-) > > ATB, > > Michael. > > -- > michael.meeks(a)novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org > > -- [ ]'s Aledr - Alexandre "OpenSource Solutions for SmallBusiness Problems" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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