April 2011 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] AN OPEN PROPOSAL ON openSUSE VERSION NUMBERING
by Drew Adams 12 Apr '11

12 Apr '11

AN OPEN PROPOSAL ON openSUSE VERSION NUMBERING: I have been giving the openSUSE version numbering issue some serious thought lately. I have come up with an interesting solution to the issue that I would like to propose to the community. I am in no way married to this idea but I do feel it is the best solution out of everything else that has been proposed. The core idea of the model that I am proposing is to have a set of minor number releases within an 8 month major number release cycle. I have outlined my idea to illustrate what I mean by this. 1) Every 8 months we should launch a major version number release. This would be kind of like Fedora does with their number every 6 months but ours would be every 8. (e.g. openSUSE 12.0) 2) After launch, we should release a new image(GoldMaster) with the updates/patches applied as a minor version number release, once a month for the next 4 months. This will help people who have not installed the major version release because of a bug to install a minor number release as bugs get patched. Also this will help to denote stability and maturity in the release (e.g. openSUSE 12.1, 12.2, 12.3, 12.4) 3) 2 months from the last minor number release we should release one more minor number(this will be 6 months from the original release of our major number)… this will mean the x.5 releases of openSUSE will earn a reputation and respect for being very stable (e.g. openSUSE 12.5) 4) After the x.5 release we should not release any more minor number images in preparation for our next major version number launch! I think this model would make our 8 month cycle more competitive while providing a more structured meaning to our version numbering and, more importantly, maintaining an identity of our own. Also this will show the fast development of our 8 month cycle. Some things to consider before deciding on or implementing this for our project: 1) The increased frequency of version numbering will mean we will have more opportunities to make noise about our distribution in a marketing sense. Also, the transition and change to this model will give use marketing opportunities to ensure the FOSS community knows of the changes before implementation. Keep in mind that more noise means more energy from our marketing team and ambassadors. 2) This is something that CAN be done however, we would need volunteers from the community to help with the added man power it will take to crank out the minor number releases. Though it may take some added effort to achieve this model, we have the infrastructure in place to help facilitate it (OBS, openFATE, Connect, Lizards blogs, Wiki pages, Forums, etc.). 3) The frequency of the minor number releases proposed above is NOT the heart of this proposal. Rather, it is a personal opinion on how the idea of interim(minor number) patched releases within our 8 month cycle can look. A NOTE: I know some will have an issue with this thinking that it abandons the 8 month development cycle but in my opinion this enhances it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] AN OPEN PROPOSAL ON openSUSE VERSION NUMBERING
by Kim Leyendecker 12 Apr '11

12 Apr '11

Am 12.04.2011 19:50, schrieb James Mason: > I don't want to remove any packages; this is the same package set used > for the downloadable ISOs, and it is important to maintain integrity makes sense to me. -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker(a)hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE HAVE A LOT OF FUN! http://www.opensuse.org | http://www.suse.de Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Announcing search.opensuse.org
by Brandon Philips 11 Apr '11

11 Apr '11

Hello- I have put together a simple search interface to opensuse.org that uses Google CSE by default but allows for submissions to application specific webforms. You can find it here: http://search.opensuse.org/ Found a bug? Want to contribute? Fork it on gitorious.org: http://gitorious.org/search-opensuse-org/search-opensuse-org I would like to thank Marcus Rückert and Pascal Bleser for their help. Have Fun, Brandon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] RMLL
by jdd 09 Apr '11

09 Apr '11

The "Libre Software Meeting" (RMLL) will be held in Strasbourg in the second/third week of july (9-14) http://2011.rmll.info/ This is the larger international free software fest in France. Being near the Est french side, it could be easy for openSUSE official to come. I hope to be able to attend. I wrote to the organisation (no answer yet), but alone I wont do much good :-( usually it's held in an university campus, so accomodation and food are cheap. I had little answers on th french list until now :-( Josh offered to help (including with money), but we first have to have attendees :-) jdd NB I cross post on project and marketting, don't knowing what is the best list last year web site: http://2010.rmll.info/spip.php -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgxog7_clip-l-ombre-et-la-lumiere-3-bad-pi… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGgv_ZFtV14 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] I want to be a mentor for the proposal "Hot File system Backup using Ext4 Snapshots"
by sergey ivanov 08 Apr '11

08 Apr '11

Hi, I'm Sergey Ivanov, I'd like to be a mentor for the proposal "Hot File system Backup using Ext4 Snapshots". Freenode IRC Nick: seriv. I work in OmniTI as a system administrator. I'd like to have good snapshots with means to serialize the changes made on the filesystem between them and to send/receive these from one filesystem to another on linux. I use this every day in solaris on zfs and miss it in linux. I was a packager in Altlinux team (dovecot, reiser4...), and helped by testing and benchmarking filesystems. If I need to send more details or information, please tell what and where to supply. -- Regards, Sergey Ivanov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Fwd: [GSoC Proposal] spec-cleaner
by kunal ghosh 08 Apr '11

08 Apr '11

Hi all, I am writing my proposal here before uploading to the gsoc-melange portal , please do let me know how i can further refine it: Title: spec-cleaner redesign to make it modular and easy to extend. Abstract: RPM packaging is done using a build recipe , the "spec file". Spec file authoring has been done for a very long time. As the distribution moves to newer releases of rpm, the old spec files (and newer ones) must be checked to make sure they use newer macros and better spec authoring practices. The project aims to facilitate this by further improving the spec-cleaner project with a spec file parser, and an xml based extension system (to add more cleaning recipes in the future). Detailed Description: Background: The project is a simple spec file checker and cleaner. The code goes over all available spec files looking for common spec authoring errors and replaces them with more readable and correct code. As opensuse moves to newer versions of rpm, older macros may be deprecated , some shorthand used in earlier versions of the spec file may break with newer rpmbuild. It is not possible to manually look at each spec file and modify them. This project aims to perform a bunch of the checking and modification task automatically leaving the packager to look for only subtle details, there by greatly reducing his/her workload. Use Cases: This project will mainly be used by the packagers (actors). When opensuse moves to newer releases the packagers run the spec-cleaner through all their spec files. Spec-cleaner reports any errors along with changes made to files. The packager can then run tests on the modified spec files to make sure nothing breaks. He/she then rpmbuilds from the spec-files and corrects small errors if any to make the spec file run with newer versions of rpm. Benefits: The packager's time looking for common coding errors is greatly reduced. Specification changes between different version of rpms is taken care of automatically. Caveats: This is an automatic code checker and cleaner. It will not be able to look for hacks that the packager might have employed to package a particular software. In some cases it might regard the hack as a bad coding practice. The packager must look for these manually and apply necessary corrections. Technical Details: The Project would be divided into 3 parts: Part 1: Read existing code and evaluate how best to modularize it. Run tests on existing code to make sure the working and the caveats are well understood. Part 2: Implement the changes: Write a spec file parser Having done a preliminary search for spec file parsers , i have not found any. I have looked at python-rpm and its more of a package to work with rpm packages than spec files, so there arises a need for a generic spec file parser. python-rpm and rpm in general contains a specific module called "rpmSpecParse()" which could be isolated and used as a parser for the cleaner, this needs further looking into. Come up with a XML schema which is easy to understand and easy to extend. Adding new clean-up recipes is not very semantically organized. A simple XML file wrapping new cleaning recipes in appropriate tags would be more appropriate. The rough markup could be , <recipe> <rpm version> <macro affected> <regexp> </regexp> <replace with> </replace with> </macro affected> </rpm version> </recipe> Move portions of current spec-cleaner code that are hard coded , into separate configuration files so that they can be modified without touching the code and also have more semantically organized. Part 3: Extend available test cases and write a more if time permits. Write documentation / augment the code written with doxygen headers. Why me: I have used python extensively in my projects (reference https://github.com/face-rec-mvit/Code_PyRec ) also i am working on converting IPS (opensolaris) binary packages to RPM, for belenix.org (here we use rpm5) so i have a fair understanding of how the spec file is authored and what are the available macros etc. Also , from past projects i have worked on. I have learnt (the hardway :( ) that "shipping" of the project must be a feature and i will follow the same in the current spec-cleaner project and all future projects. Contact Information: IRC nick: gancient (on most irc channels , freenode ,oftc) email: kunal.t2(a)gmail.com IM : kunal.t2 (on gtalk) -- regards ------- Kunal Ghosh Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering. Sir MVIT Bangalore,India permalink: member.acm.org/~kunal.t2 Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net -- regards ------- Kunal Ghosh Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering. Sir MVIT Bangalore,India permalink: member.acm.org/~kunal.t2 Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] GSoC - Request Feedback - End User Oriented Web Interface
by Priyanka 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

Hi, My name is Priyanka. I am in my second year of B.Tech (Bachelor of Technology), in Computer Science. My inclinations are towards C, C++, PHP and Ruby-on-Rails. I am also comfortable with git. I am strongly inclined to apply to openSUSE for GSoC. The idea that interested me was the End-User Oriented Web Interface. Currently the user page is extremely limited to displaying the projects the user is a part of. I propose the following changes in the interface, Expansion of the User Profile ------------------------------------------ * Expanding the user profile to include profiles on GitHub, Gitorious, Ohloh. * The ability to pull the recent activity done by the user on these websites. This would be great if the user has a couple of famous repositories. * IRC networks, and channels frequented. * An 'about me' text. * An ability for users to comment on the user activities, which include apart from their usual activities on the build-service, other things which have been pulled, like github commits, etc. Karma ---------- I believe there should be a 'Karma' system on the build-service. This would encourage users to contribute. * For example, if a user is working on a personal repository and pushes a bug-fix or the implementation of a new-features, he/she can be rewarded with Karma. This Karma can be attained either by 'up-votes', or by other members donating their own Karma. * Ohloh's statistics using their public API can be used for getting Karma too. * Karma can be auto-assigned to maintainers of popular packages, etc. And it all gets gelled up to be a more informative user page, which helps people know each other more. With the user's development activities getting space on his/her homepage, the end-users would be able to connect with the user's open-source work. This would help add an element of interaction to the process. The Karma component is an essential element to this interaction because the community recognizes an individual's effort. And we all can do with a little praise :-) Background Information ---------------------------------- I have already set up the development environment, I even reported a bug in the Build Service to Sascha :-) My experience with web-development has been using Rails and PHP for college activities like online treasure hunts, etc. However, I am into serious development as well. I have been working on a Q & A application using MongoDB as a NoSQL database. [0] The proposal is an informal one. I would be polishing it, and include a time line, where I will be breaking the work down, as far as possible, into atomic modules with realistic deadlines. As frequent users of the Build Service, I would be extremely glad to hear some suggestions / feedback on the above proposal. Thanks & Regards, Priyanka [0] https://github.com/priyanka-m/ask -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] GSoC: Offline update
by ges05eup＠studserv.uni-leipzig.de 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

Hello opensuse-projects! I learned just today that I won't have a lot to do in summer. So I want to try and commit myself to open source and openSUSE! I have put up a preliminary application at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/nei/1 The project that I'm talking about is a convenient way to update and install packages on a "offline" openSUSE box. (Of course the intermediate step with an "online" computer is unavoidable if you don't want to mirror all the repos for offline usage. Also, I have the feeling that this might already exist somewhere but I haven't found it yet :-) ) I'm hoping to see if anyone is interested in this project or thinks that this would be useful. If so, I'd also be lacking a mentor ;-) Looking forward to feedback! To introduce myself, I've been using SuSE some time back in 2001 and since 10.2 also openSUSE. I'm mostly a user and I wrote some scripts for personal use or for IRC. Currently a student in Leipzig, Germany. I've been in touch with freely available source code for a while, probably 1999 when I was working with iKonboard setting up a web community and later on providing free tech support for phpBB, before I switched to mostly administration tasks on then debian-based webservers. Most of the programming work I've done happened to be in Perl, if that has any meaning. But so far I didn't manage to get involved in anything big. Cheers, Nei ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] last linuxtag call
by Jos Poortvliet 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

Dear friends, Henne has stepped up to organize Linuxtag attendance. If you don't get rooms from LinuxTag, we can book for you. We all stay in the linuxtag hotel (provided there is still room... let's hope so, otherwise henne will try and find something else). It works as follows: send me an official ambassador support request for sponsoring per mail so I have a papertrail. send the following: - Name (like in passport), address, phone (international!) - if you need us to book hotel nights and how many - if you need travel cost support, and if so, most up to date travel costs guestimation in USD or Eur. We reimburse 80% at most! - a short description/explanation of why you should be there - what do you intend to contribute and what are your contributions to date If any of that is missing I won't be able to pay :D Please CC Henne (so he can book if it's OK'ed) and AJ. Grtz Jos

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[opensuse-project] [GSoC] Application for dister, the Heroku-like solution for SUSE Studio
by Bjørn Arild Mæland 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

Hi, I've lurked around here a bit and have already submitted the first version of my proposal, but I'd like to introduce myself to the list also. My name is Bjørn Arild Mæland and I'm a master's student at the University of Bergen in Norway. I've been doing a bunch of web development through the years (mainly Ruby on Rails), and I am a long-time Linux user. I'd love to work on dister, the Heroku-like solution for SUSE Studio, this summer. I think it's a great project which will increase openSUSE's attractiveness for web developers and others. For formatting purposes I'm linking directly to my application on melange: http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/bma025/1 Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -Bjørn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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