January 2011 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] Does openSUSE have an opinion of "Linux capabilities"?
by Greg Freemyer 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

All, I just read http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Expert-Linux-capabilities-don-t-… And it left me wondering if openSUSE has a plan related to capabilities. Apparently some of the distros are moving to it rapidly in an effort to eliminate SUID programs, but there may be security holes in the new concept too, so it's pretty up in the air. And my other question is where do project level design concepts like this get discussed? Thanks Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE 11.3, disk expert needed (SSD + hdparm/wiper.sh error: /usr/sbin/rdev needed but not found)
by Johannes Nohl 12 Jan '11

12 Jan '11

I'd like to ask for feedback. How do you treat your SSD running openSUSE 11.3? By now it is recommended (http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:SSD_discard_%28trim%29_support) to run wiper.sh for discarding free space weekly. This is at least true as long there's no native TRIM-support which is compatible to modern SSDs. openSUSE 11.3 is shipping with hdparm updated to version 9.36. The script /sbin/wiper.sh is included there. Am I the only one experiencing this error: wiper.sh: Linux SATA SSD TRIM utility, version 3.1, by Mark Lord. wiper.sh: This tool is DANGEROUS! Please read and understand wiper.sh: /usr/share/doc/packages/hdparm/README.wiper wiper.sh: before going any further. /usr/sbin/rdev: needed but not found, aborting. How do you deal with it? rdev (as far as I understand) doesn't come with openSUSE anymore. Additionally it does only return the name of the root device "/dev/sdXX". Possible solution: Add the following two lines at line 260 of /sbin/wiper.sh (in diff): 261,262d260 < elif [ "$RDEV" == "" -a `$GAWK '{if ($2 ~ /^\/$/) print $1}' /etc/mtab` != "" ]; then < rootdev=`$GAWK '{if ($2 ~ /^\/$/) print $1}' /etc/mtab` ## openSUSE This will make the script reading root device from /etc/mtab. I only tried to run the script in dry mode. Is there any harm with that solution? Should I go real with it? I guess it's only a minor issue. Btw if it's of any interested: I own a OCZ Vertex 2 Extended. I tried to bring this upstream. But the bug tracker on hdparm.sourceforge.net doesn't look like very much populated... Greetings Johannes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE 11.3, disk expert needed (SSD + hdparm/wiper.sh error: /usr/sbin/rdev needed but not found)
by Johannes Nohl 12 Jan '11

12 Jan '11

>> Did wiper.sh from hdparm 9.28 work out of the box? Not for me: >> "/usr/sbin/rdev: needed but not found, aborting." > > No, there is a online update patch that is needed to make it work. If > you've run normal online updates you should have it. > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635920 > >From the bug report I can see that 9.30 is supporting my device (OCZ Vertex 2 Extended). So I guess 9.36 should still support it. But what about the script wiper.sh (which is comming with hdparm)? I guess 9.30 is backported into http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.3/rpm/x86_64/hdparm-9.28-4.1.1.x86_6…. I tried wiper.sh in there but still complaining about "/usr/sbin/rdev". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE 11.3, disk expert needed (SSD + hdparm/wiper.sh error: /usr/sbin/rdev needed but not found)
by Johannes Nohl 12 Jan '11

12 Jan '11

2011/1/12 Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer(a)gmail.com>: > Mark, > > I just got a problem report about wiper.sh needing /usr/sbin/rdev. > > That seems to have been deprecated for a while. Googling > "usr/sbin/rdev" I see the same issue raised for several distros. > > Are you working on a hdparm update / patch to address that? > > Thanks > Greg As far as I understand rdev is only needed to tell which is the root device "/". If it's safe to extract this info from /etc/mtab I would suggest to get it there. Diff for /sbin/wiper.sh in hdparm 9.36: 261,262d260 < elif [ "$RDEV" == "" -a `$GAWK '{if ($2 ~ /^\/$/) print $1}' /etc/mtab` != "" ]; then < rootdev=`$GAWK '{if ($2 ~ /^\/$/) print $1}' /etc/mtab` ## openSUSE This enables me to do a dry-run of wiper.sh on openSUSE 11.3 (didn't try with --commit). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Questions for the candidates
by Vincent Untz 12 Jan '11

12 Jan '11

Hi, I read the platforms of all candidates, and I have a few questions :-) I'd appreciate if you could take some time to answer them; it'll help me vote in an informed way. 1) You described various issues you'd like to get fixed and goals you want to achieve. Will you still work on (or help with) those tasks if you're not on the board, or do you think you really need to be on the board for some of those tasks? 2) How much time per week can you secure (approximately) for the board? (I know it will be 0% of your time for some weeks, and much more for some other weeks; I'm interested in the average) 3) Did you attend IRC board meetings already? 4) It's interesting that I see nearly no note about budget/money in platforms. When (not if ;-)) we'll have the Foundation, the board will have to work on a budget. So a few questions about this... 4a) Have you experience with creating/dealing with a budget? 4b) Where will we find money for the Foundation? 4c) What should we use the money for? 5) I do think it'd be useful to have some board-related meeting at FOSDEM. That should help the newly-elected board members to know faster what's happening, and how things work. Will you come to FOSDEM? (I know some people, and that's most probably true for the non-European, will likely not be able to attend; that's not an issue) 7) Do you care more about Free Software or Open Source? Just to be clear: there's no wrong answer. But it helps understand why you contribute to projects like openSUSE. Questions to specific candidates, related to their platform: Chuck: where do you think we could lead, instead of copying? Sebas: what needs to be more transparent in openSUSE? Kostas: do you have examples of "motives" we can give to people so they participate in the project? Peter: leaving you some more time for your platform :-) Henne: not really a question related to your platform, but to your experience on the board. What could be improved in the way the board works as of today? (btw, it's not a way for me to try to get the current board blamed in any way: we all know things can always get improved, and time usually helps with that) Also, can I get a dodo? Sankar: some of your long-term tasks are partly technical (make openSUSE an attractive development platform, make the distro accessibility-friendly). How do you think the board can help with that? Nelson: can you develop a bit more on the 'anti burnout' campaign? What would it consist of? I wish you all the best for the election :-) Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Team report aggregation
by Karsten König 12 Jan '11

12 Jan '11

Hi, right now all the teams spread their meeting results or news flashes to alot of different places, blogs, mailinglists etc. reports(a)suse.de seems to be some suse internal dedicated place to collect team reports, something similar would be nice. IMHO an automatically archived list is a good place, most teams already have some mailreadable form of results of their meetings anyways and it makes it easier to collect that. Using the wiki might not be future proof in case of layoutbreaks, can be seen pretty impressivly here: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_Meetings It is very easy to add an emailadress as cc instead of remembering which blog to push it to as well, so the overhead is kept low. Also it might start a form of competition for readable output of the teams, we at kde for example usually try to summarize the topics outcome, most bugbot reports just list topic changes, this carries roughly as much information as the meeting announcement... I assume the openSUSE news team might be interested to have something like this, it allows for easier identifying hot spots etc. Any ideas? Cheers, Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Board Election Page
by Raul 12 Jan '11

12 Jan '11

Friends, There is a page that shows all the candidates? o/ -- Raul Libório http://rauhmaru.blogspot.com/ rauhmarutsªhotmailºcom openSUSE Member | Linux User #4444581 "There are only 10 types of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Warlordfff's Election Platform
by Kostas Koudaras 12 Jan '11

12 Jan '11

Hello world This is my election platform, please take a look. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_2010_platform_warlordfff It's nothing fancy but I think it's interesting and I'm sure it's honest. Your comments and questions are more than welcome. Thanks in advance Kostas Koudaras -- http://opensuse.gr http://amb.opensuse.gr http://own.opensuse.gr http://warlordfff.tk me I am not me ------- Time travel is possible, you just need to know the right aliens -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] where do i go and vote
by Shayon Mukherjee 12 Jan '11

12 Jan '11

Hi openSUSEans, I have a quick question. Where do I vote for the election or for the candidates ? Cheers ! S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Sankar's Platform for openSUSE Board Election 2010/11
by Sankar P 12 Jan '11

12 Jan '11

Hi Geckos, My openSUSE platform is available at: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_2010_platform_psankar Please read through it and let me know if you have any questions/feedback/comments. If my agenda is appealing to you, I ask you to vote for me. Thanks. -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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