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[opensuse-project] Proposal: Create development information sharing blog for openSUSE activities
by Andreas Jaeger 19 Mar '08

19 Mar '08

We - Dirk, Duncan, Zonker, Stephan and myself - had some discussions the last days and I would like to get your input on the following proposal. Thanks, Andreas Problem: Only very few developers working on openSUSE related projects share with others what they are doing and why this is interesting. Blogging is the current way to do this - but many developers understand under blogging more than sharing work stuff. Idea: To lower the barrier for developers to share information (and setting up their own blog at a free hoster), let's create a blog (proposed name see below - for this text "the site") that everybody somehow involved with openSUSE (both external community members and Novell employees - this should be available for all formal "openSUSE members" ) could get an account for sharing technical aspects of the developers work. We should create several categories or tags initially, e.g. YaST, and ask that every blog entry is part of at least one category so that e.g. all YaST blogs can be read together. It should be easy for developers to add tags/categories to their posts. We should also setup for each category some starting page with further information about the category - and pointing to the blog category. I would create a separate instance besides news.opensuse.org since news.o.o is relevant for announcement articles. Real news articles should be send to news.opensuse.org and not to the site, or submitted again on news.o.org referring to the relevant entry of the site. The goals of the site are: - it should be a fully positive and inspiring thing - make clear to not be a latest-gossip-and-whining blog - it is not a "I bought a new digital camera over the weekend" - doesn't have to be fully technical but should center around development, it could be also covering legal aspects (codecs issue, software patents). Exceptions to this will be accepted and if persons blog that much about non-technical stuff, they should move on to their own blog. The site should allow comments from logged in users for the blog posts. Note: For some systems, like wordpress, there are extensions that you can blog in one systems and it shows up at others, so those people that do blog already, could use this to basically syndicate their entry (if appropriately tagged) on the site. How does the site fit into the existing infrastructure? We have: * news.opensuse.org for news and announcements * planetsuse.org as a real aggregator where people related somehow to openSUSE, Novell and SUSE Linux can have their blogs aggregated. The site should get aggregated their as well. * the site: Discussion changes in the openSUSE and Linux universum from a technical perspective * mailing lists, forum: Overlap with the site * en.opensuse.org: A wiki with a more static content than the new site. Outlook: The idea of the site is to be fully development oriented for a project (see labs.trolltech.com) It should be trivial to push out code via a git/svn repository and have reader of the site try it out. Some examples on what influenced us: * http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/ * http://news.opensuse.org * http://www.novell.com/coolblogs All three have several people blogging on different categories as proposed above. labs.trolltech.com is additionally part of a broader development effort. Discussion: How to name the machine? * lizards.opensuse.org - current favorite * developer.opensuse.org * develop.opensuse.org * tech.opensuse.org * labs.opensuse.org - good name but causes confusion with SUSE Labs. Btw. the SUSE Labs developer should use the site as well. * ideas.opensuse.org would have been a good name, but it is already taken. * knowledge.opensuse.org * research.opensuse.org * brainfood.opensuse.org * developernet.opensuse.org * playground.opensuse.org Thanks to Zonker for inspiring me to think about it - and to Dirk, Duncan and Stephan for good discussions. -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Re: [opensuse-project] Proposal: Create development information sharing blog for openSUSE activities
by Francis Giannaros 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> wrote: > "Francis Giannaros" <francis(a)opensuse.org> writes: > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> wrote: > >> "Francis Giannaros" <francis(a)opensuse.org> writes: > >> > where people are also individually on the feed of Planet KDE. > >> > >> That would miss the "tagging" part which I consider rather interesting. > > > > In what way? All of those blogs could still have tags, no? > > Usecase: I'm only interested in blogs with YaST tags associated with it. > > And that seemed to be missing in it, I think the best way of overcoming that (and the way other projects handle it) is just by having sub-planets. They could be at i.e. planetsuse.org/YaST as mentioned before. For example, there's Planet KDE but there's also a Planet Amarok, or Planet GNOME and Planet Banshee (or at least there was). This way you avoid having to post the same post in two places, and you still have the specialisation there for when you want/need it. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] How should we inform packagers about new upstream versions?
by Christian Morales Vega 29 Feb '08

29 Feb '08

Sometimes do you find packages in the OBS that are outdated. You never know why, perhaps the packager doesn't knows about the new upstream version and perhaps he knows but is just busy. Up to now when I found such a case I reported it like an "Enhancement" bug in bugzilla. But some packagers think bugzilla isn't the correct place for such a thing. If the packager doesn't knows about the new version he can leave the package outdated for a long time. So would be good that, at some time, if an user finds the problem he reports it. But, how should be reported? There is any feature planned in the OBS to help with this? What other distros do? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Update on the Code of Conduct
by Federico Mena Quintero 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

Hi, everyone, Sorry for not sending this out before... I had it sitting forever in my to-do list :) A couple of project meetings ago, we discussed and clarified the proposed Code of Conduct [1]. Thanks to the comments of people, we decided that it was not necessary to have a separate set of rules other than what we have in the Guiding Princples. Also, I was a total idiot and had forgotten about our existing moderation structure; the updated version acknowledges them, and puts the Board only as a last resort way of resolving conflicts. In the end, the Code of Conduct is simply a quote from a paragraph in the Guiding Principles: http://en.opensuse.org/Code_of_Conduct That page means to have links to the relevant sub-guides for each communications medium (mailing lists, IRC, etc.), but I haven't found all of those links. I'd like to ask people to put them in as appropriate; just look for FIXMEs in the page :) Again, thanks to everyone who made this possible, and thanks for the constructive comments. [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Project_Meeting_2008-02-06 Federico --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/02/28)
by Rodrigo Moya 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

Meeting agenda setting Looking for better ways to collect ideas for meetings AI: jpr and captain_magnus to collect agenda items on the mailing list by Tuesday Factory testing Updating now is problematic because of yast conflicts Installation stops after first user setup (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=365337) Launch a Factory testing project with KDE and other teams AI: rodrigo to post install trick on wiki Bug day Last bug day didn't happen because of bad timing with FOSDEM AI: munkii to organize bug day for Mar 7 Hackweeks Will organize hackweeks around specific items Zonker is a GNOMEr, at least "sometimes" :-) AI: federico1 to describe hackweeks in GNOME/Projects on wiki AI: federico to plan gtk file chooser hackweek next week Task review Issues with continuing with RememberTheMilk. Wiki/Bugzilla? Tasky/Evolution + RTM? AI: suseROCKs to discuss RTM with btimothy AI: suseROCKs and others to send RTM tips to the ML AI: sreeves post tasky package link AI: suseROCKs to see if we can't find tools to amke this possible on wiki Theme meeting AI: jpr to setup build service theme meeting AI: jbrockmeier Please blog/publish that Novell is also a partner in the new GOPA (http://www.gnome.org/projects/outreach/a11y/) 10.3 updates Combined update submitted into the works intel 945gm bug not released yet 11.0 development updates New PackageKit package submitted today, although with some issues still with latest zypp packages Patch upstreaming Going slowly but steadily, starting with packages with most patches Look at Nautilus package to see how to maintain packages with patches -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Translating OpenSUSE Weekly News
by Masim "Vavai" Sugianto 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

Hi Folks, I've send this personally to Francis Giannaros last week but maybe it never reached him for one or any reason. I send this to the opensuse-project list because I think it would be applied to another language. I've seen the openSUSE Weekly News both in English & Germany (I can't read it in Germany but I know it's a similar version with an English :-) ) How if I want to help the openSUSE Weekly News to translated into my mother language, Bahasa Indonesia ? We are here, Indonesian openSUSE community, tried to translated as much as we can. We started the project translation with the latest news and then will try to translating the wiki of openSUSE. -- Best Regards, Masim "Vavai" Sugianto /************************************************************/ Blog (ID) : http://www.vavai.com/blog/index.php Blog (EN) : http://www.vavai.net Community : http://www.opensuse.or.id Email : vavai(a)vavai.com /************************************************************/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] What happened with the texlive update?
by Christian Morales Vega 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

In http://download.opensuse.org/update/10.3-test we have texlive-2007-69.4.noarch.rpm with date 12-Dec-2007 that isn't in http://download.opensuse.org/update/10.3 . I don't know the policy about movng from update-test to update, but moodle (01-Feb-2008) is already in the official update repository. But the strange thing isn't that texlive-2007-69.4 is not in update. The strange thing is that texlive-2007-69.2 disappeared from update some days ago without any replace. Is this normal? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Getting Local User Groups off the ground
by Kevin Dupuy 25 Feb '08

25 Feb '08

Hello everyone. So I've been working on a new project, the openSUSE Local User Groups. The idea is to have local groups of openSUSE to help each other, and help introduce openSUSE to their area. http://en.opensuse.org/Local_User_Groups So what I'd like to do is that I know we do have openSUSE user communities already in some areas, so I'd like to hear from them about this project. Also I definitely want some help with this. What I'd like for this to come to is a place where people can meet face to face, and promote the 11.0 release, get 11.0 release parties organized and other things. Thanks and let's make this awesome! -- Kevin "Yo" Dupuy | Public Mail: <kevin(a)kevinsword.com> Hope for America: Ron Paul for President <RonPaul2008.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] What is the right/appropriate place to enter a feature request?
by Per Jessen 22 Feb '08

22 Feb '08

Is the wiki the right place or where do I take it? (I'm turning https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361728 into a feature request). /Per Jessen, Zürich --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Fruits of Hack Week Article
by Francis Giannaros 20 Feb '08

20 Feb '08

Hi guys, I'm doing an article (or a "Weekly News" section, not sure yet), on the outcomes of hack week with a summary of a few of the things that were done. So far I have gathered [0] from a few blog posts, but it would be really great to have more since I didn't manage to attend this time. So if you know a project that accomplished some stuff during hack week, then please add it to the wiki page or drop a note on the list (with a link) for me to mention it. Thanks! -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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