November 2008 - openSUSE Translation - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-translation] YaST help - do we need it?
by Wadim Dziedzic 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Hello, I have a little provocative question. Do You (developers, maintaners and translators) think that we need help texts in Yast? Do You think that sentences like: "<b>FS Type</b> shows the file system type." or "Press <edit>, to edit NNNN, <add> to add NNNN and <delete> do delete the NNNN." will really help the user? ;-) Unfortunately big part of Yast help looks like this... I personally see it as a lot of work for maintaining and translating, but in the end it brings not much... Is it maybe a rule, that every UI element needs some description or something? What do You think? regards, Wadim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] if I keep translation...
by chen swyear 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

I want to know if I keep on translation those po files of lcn and yast, Are there any chances these strings can merge into 11.1-final ? If yes, when will be the deadline? Thanks for answering With Regards Ray Chen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Final yast merge 11.1 RC1
by Karl Eichwalder 24 Nov '08

24 Nov '08

The final(?) YaST merge for 11.1 RC1 is running. I think are only a few and minor string changes (for important bug fixes and enhancements, though). I'd like to start preparing the yast2-trans packages around 13:00 CET. Drop me a line, if you need more time. Cheers, Karl -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] two really big strings..
by Luiz Fernando Ranghetti 24 Nov '08

24 Nov '08

Hi, In the .po files updated today, there are 2 strings in yast2-gtk.$$.po which are really big: line 677: <h1>Purpose</h1><p>This tool gives you control on overviewing and picking patches. You may also reverse patches that have been applied to the system.</p><h1>Usage</h1><h2>Categories</h2><p>Patches are grouped as follows:</p><ul><li>Security: patches a software flaw that could be exploited to gain restricted privilege.</li><li>Recommended: fixes non-security related flaws (e.g. data corruption, performance slowdown)</li><li>Optional: ones that only apply to few users.</li></ul><p>Only patches that apply to your system will be visible. openSUSE developers are very restrained in pushing patches; you can be sure that all patches are of signficant severity.</p><p>If you are looking for applications enhancements, you should check for Upgrades on the Software Manager.</p> line 673: <h1>Purpose</h1><p>This tool lets you install, remove, and update applications.</p><p>openSUSE's software management is also called 'package management'. A package is generally an application bundle, but multiple packages that extend the application may be offered in order to avoid clutter (e.g. games tend to de-couple the music data in another package, since its not essential and requires significant disk space). The base package will get the application's name, while extra packages are suffix-ed. Common extras are:</p><ul><li>-plugin-: extends the application with some extra functionality.</li><li>-devel: needed for software development.</li><li>-debuginfo: needed for software beta-testing.</li><li>-fr, -dr, -pl (language siglas): translation files (your language package will be marked for installation automatically).</li></ul><p>You will find both packages installed on your system, and packages that are made available through the setup-ed repositories. You cans either install or upgrade an available package, or remove an installed one.</p><blockquote>A repository is a packages media; it can either be local (like your Suse CDs), or a remote internet server. You can find utilities to setup repositories on the YaST control center.</blockquote><h1>Usage</h1><h2>Available, Upgrades, Installed buttons</h2><p>These buttons produce listings of the different sources of packages. 'Available' are the ones from the setup-ed repositories less those you have installed. 'Installed' lists the packages installed in your system. 'Upgrades' is a mix listing of the installed packages that have more recent versions available. 'All' will combine all sources.</p><h2>Filters</h2><p>Enter free text into the search-field to match their names and descriptions. (a search for 'office' will bring up the 'OpenOffice' packages as well as AbiWord which carries the word 'office' in its description). You can also choose to view software from a specific repository.</p><h2>Categories & Collections</h2><p>Software for openSUSE is indexed so that you can find software for a specific task when you don't know the name of the software you are looking for. Browse indices of software by using the tree-view in the left column; you can view the available software by their Package names, or grouped in 'Categories' or 'Patterns' by the selecting a view-mode from the drop-down-menu below. Categories' are simple, hierarchical classifications of software packages, like 'Multimedia/Video', while 'Patterns' are task-oriented collections of multiple packages that install like one (the installation of the 'server'-pattern for example will install various software needed for running a server). By using 'Install All' you make sure that future collection changes, when you upgrade openSUSE, will be honored.</p><h2>Software details in the box below</h2><p>In the package detail view you can perform actions affecting this software; like install, uninstall, version-upgrade or -downgrade. All changes that you make will be saved, but not yet performed.</p><p>You can review changes in the right-side pane of the software-manager. You can revoke changes individually at any time by clicking the 'undo'-button next to a saved change.</p><p>The lock button can be used to lock the selected package state; it won't allow some automatic operation to install, upgrade or remove the package. This is only useful in very unusual cases: for instance, you may not want to install some drivers because they interfer with your system, yet you want to install some collection that includes them.</p><p>The changes will be performed once you decide to click the 'perform changes' button in the lower-right corner. If you want to leave the software-manager without performing any changes, simply press the button labeled 'Abort'.</p><blockquote><i>Developed by Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz(a)alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt><br>Thanks to Christian Jager for co-designing this tool.</i></blockquote> by the way, in the bigger, sometimes it calls openSUSE, in other Suse.... It is a help text or a manual itself ? >:-) Regards, Luiz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] The MO file for gnome-main-menu not shipped in the translation package
by Jean Cayron 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

Hello, Could any translation responsible check for that bug: I've got this gnome menu translated since 2 releases of openSUSE for nothing, they're note shipped in the translation packages... (the mo file isn't isntalled) It doesn't make sense to give a translated distro if the main menu appears in English. I made much effort to translate more gnome things for 11.1. Please, help to make this work valuable. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=438980 Cheerio, Djan wa-team coordinator -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Updated gnome-packagekit.pot
by Scott Reeves 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

I am sorry to do this but I had to check in an updated gnome-packagekit.pot file today. There were some last minute changes that really needed to go in. There was a memory leak introduced in already accepted code that was concatenating strings together via strdup_printf and returning them from a function that was supposed to return const pointers so they were never freed. In order to fix this some strings had to redone (git commit cd466f - fix last python commit else we leak memory). And there were evidently some strings left that were missed and not marked for translation (git commit 408167 - mark some strings as translatable). Finally some additional and better error strings were added that will help diagnose problems. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] [bugzilla_noreply@novell.com] [Bug 445350] Bootloader help is not fully localised
by Karl Eichwalder 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

Please, fix your files. I already checked af and xh. -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg)

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[opensuse-translation] Networkmanager in KDE4 partly translated (openSUSE 11.1 beta 5)
by Guillaume GARDET 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

Hi list, In french, Networkmanager in KDE4 is only partly translated and is mostly in english. I opened a bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447077 Did you have the same probleme in your language or only french is affected? Cheers, Guillaume -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] openSUSE greeter
by Guillaume GARDET 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

Hi list, in the file SUSEgreeter.$LL.po, there is this string : #: main.cpp:140 msgid "Show Introduction to KDE4" msgstr "Afficher l'introduction à KDE4" which is ok but the link is : http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Introduction_to_KDE4. It does not appear in the PO file so we cannot choose to redirect to a localized wiki like : http://fr.opensuse.org/KDE/Introduction_à_KDE4 So, I opened a bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447061 Moreover, think about translating the http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Introduction_to_KDE4 page in your language, it could be useful. Cheers, Guillaume -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Problems with update-desktop-files-kde.it.po
by Andrea Turrini 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

Hi all, I'm translating into Italian the lnc/po/update-desktop-files-kde.it.po file. Watching the changes between my last version (39512) and the svn head (41534), besides the fuzzy and untranslated strings, I've discovered a lot of new/modified translated strings with errors or strange behaviors. In fact, I've found mainly these problems: - some strings are translated into different strings even if they are relative to the same msgid of the same file - some new and modified strings contain grammar mistakes or do not match the singular/plural of msgid (while original translations was right) - some translated strings are replaced with untranslated ones - some translated strings are replaced with wrong ones - some modified strings seems to be replaced by strings generated by an automatic translator - some modified strings contain words that do not exists in Italian - some modified strings do not follow standard Italian translations (see http://en.opensuse.org/Translation-it#Elenco_delle_parole_di_uso_comune_e_l… ) - some modified strings contain fuzzy words or now they are ambiguous Are the above problems specific for Italian translation or they occurred also for other languages? And only in update-desktop-files-kde.it.po file or also in other update-desktop-* files (I've not checked them because they are not assigned to me)? Another thing: what is the better thing to do now? Check the whole file looking for strange/wrong strings (because problems are inside the "translated" strings, and they are a lot) or only the strings changed by last commits? This because there is few time to correct the above problems before the next packaging... Regards, Andrea -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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