April 2022

Important: Leap 15.5 Early planning and steering development towards ALP
by Lubos Kocman 21 Apr '22

21 Apr '22

Hello openSUSE! (sorry for the long but I believe important email) since the *announcement of next-gen SUSE Linux Enterprise has already landed, I'd like to take a moment and talk a bit about our last openSUSE Leap 15.X release and set some expectations. openSUSE Leap 15.5 will be based on the binaries and schedule of SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP5. SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 is using the tick-tock model, where 15 SP4 would be the feature release while 15 SP5 would be more of a bug fix r … [View More]perhaps it better to say "maintenance" release. I did already created an SLE 15 SP5 draft-based *proposal for the Roadmap. For which I'd appreciate your feedback. I'm a bit keen on setting deadlines for the earlier milestones (See outlined alternatives) rather than the SLE Public ones as we did in 15.5. That in my opinion would result in fewer late changes and would be more testing-oriented which is what I believe this release needs to be. From the past, we know that "community originated" changes with a big impact can happen also outside feature release, such as glibc and rpm update in the late development phase of 15 SP3. We are in a bit different situation now, as the parallel development of the "Adaptable Linux Platform" is now happening publicly in OBS and neither community nor SUSE has unlimited resources. As the plan is that the next Community/Enterprise distribution (Leap) will be ALP itself (as it will be developed open) or closely based on ALP I believe it makes sense to steer community effort there as it pays off in the long run. There are some problematic topics that we will have to address. One of them in SLES 15 SP5+ and Leap 15.5 such as the python *situation. Which will only get worse with each SLE Service Pack (keep in mind that unlike for Leap there is a plan for SP7). Specifically for this isseu we could use existing *code-o-o#17 and interlink it with internal jsc#PM-3390 (Switch System Python3 to a supported version). If you know about other larger topics that are worth fixing in the last Leap 15.5 release, then please do not hesitate to report them in code- o-o and set milestone to 15.5. We'll process them on next-next monday on Community feature meeting (skip one due to Easter). Any feedback is greatly welcome. [0]https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/threa… [1]https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-20220413#L124 [2]https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap#Draft_schedule_for_openSUSE_Leap… [3]https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/17 [4]https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issues Thank you very much for your understanding Lubos Kocman on behalf of openSUSE Release Team [View Less]

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Fwd: oSC22 and Community Meeting: Week 16
by Luna Jernberg 19 Apr '22

19 Apr '22

---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 4:27 PM Subject: Re: oSC22 and Community Meeting: Week 16 To: ddemaio <ddemaio(a)suse.de>, bittin <bittin(a)opensuse.org>, Martin Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com>, <ddemaio(a)opensuse.org> *attending* On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 11:39 AM Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Will attend the Community Meeting today, before the foss-… [View More]

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oSC22 and Community Meeting: Week 15
by ddemaio 19 Apr '22

19 Apr '22

Hi all, There will be a Regular Community Meeting tomorrow at 14:30 UTC. (I might be a little late from another meeting). At 19:00 UTC tomorrow, we will also have a meeting for the openSUSE Conference. The Call for Papers ends on Thursday, April 14.. We will have a second Regular Community Meeting on Thursday at 19:00 UTC. View the community meeting notes at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting and the conference planning meeting notes at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/osc22 … [View More]

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[opensuse-project] zypper repos (lr)
by Felix Miata 13 Apr '22

13 Apr '22

How about switching default output fields for zypper lr, for the benefit of both help responders, and seekers? Who are the most common users, anyone outside the various support forums? In support forums, it's pretty common that repos are an issue, and when they are, the URIs in those repos are the most vital information. So, why aren't URIs included in the default output? OPs often know they're needed without knowing why, so will include them, but without the -r switch, whereupon someone must … [View More]

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Fwd: Summary of a call on the topic of Cisco's openh264 distribution for openSUSE
by Luna Jernberg 12 Apr '22

12 Apr '22

---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Summary of a call on the topic of Cisco's openh264 distribution for openSUSE To: Lubos Kocman <lubos.kocman(a)suse.com>, <ddemaio(a)opensuse.org>, Knurpht-openSUSE <knurpht(a)opensuse.org>, Emily Gonyer <emilyyrose(a)gmail.com>, bittin <bittin(a)opensuse.org> Cc: factory(a)lists.opensuse.org <factory(a)lists.opensuse.org>, … [View More]

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Reminder meeting : openSUSE Board meeting next Monday (13:00 Europe/Berlin)
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 11 Apr '22

11 Apr '22

Hello all, The biweekly board conf call will be held in two days at 13:00 Europe/Berlin time (CET = UTC+1) Meeting will be in the regular Board Meeting Room https://meet.opensuse.org/OSBoard Current Topics: https://code.opensuse.org/board/tickets/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Board Members: If you cannot participate, please advise by replying to this mail.

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oSC22, OSCAL Summit and Community Meeting: Week 13
by ddemaio 10 Apr '22

10 Apr '22

Hi all, We will have Regular Community Meeting tomorrow at 14:30 UTC. At 19:00 UTC tomorrow, we will also have a quick meeting for the openSUSE Conference and openSUSE Summit at OSCAL. We will have a second Regular Community Meeting on Thursday at 19:00 UTC. This week we we have the following topics we will spend some time covering: * Getting access to following landing page (https://microos.opensuse.org/) and update to reflect current state of project to better manage user expectations … [View More]

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Community Meetings: Week 14
by ddemaio 08 Apr '22

08 Apr '22

Hi all, We will have Regular Community Meeting tomorrow at 14:30 UTC. We will have a second Regular Community Meeting on Thursday at 19:00 UTC. View the meeting notes at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting The meetings will take place on https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting You can find the meeting notes for the conference planning at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/osc22 v/r Doug

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How to build a FOSS maintainer community (Was: Planning decomission of software.opensuse.org)
by Henne Vogelsang 06 Apr '22

06 Apr '22

Hey, redirected to project@ as this the more appropriate list for me to rant about community building :-) On 30.03.22 13:23, Simon Lees wrote: > On 3/30/22 20:59, Henne Vogelsang wrote: >> On 30.03.22 10:24, Simon Lees wrote: >> >>> which is why I spent alot of time looking at foundation related topics. >> >> And that is nice and all. But *additionally* to doing the grunt work of >> attracting contributors, not *instead* of it. > > Sure, do … [View More]you have a magical time tree for me? Sure not. And if you can't you can't. Your time, your decision. But you are not the only person in this crowd :-) > If I could think of simple easy things to attract new contributors I > would absolutely have been doing them as well, but its hard and I don't > have many ideas, do you? This is a well established, written about, even researched topic. There are tons of things we can do "passively" for our projects. And by projects I don't mean openSUSE as a whole. I mean all the building blocks that make up openSUSE. The teams, the software projects, the distribution etc. - clarify *what* we want to achieve. What are the priorities? *Who* is the priority? - establish contribution guidelines - clearly express roles and responsibilities - clearly express how we do conflict management - document the path to leadership - clearly express areas/problems that need attention - establish onboarding practices for new contributors - establish mentoring practices for contributors - establish decommission practices (something isn't salvageable, get rid of it!) - establish successor practices (people leave all the time) So help existing openSUSE maintainers/projects by setting up a golden path to follow for maintainership. Basically define what is openSUSEs shared understanding of how FOSS projects are supposed to be if they are part of openSUSE. Once the "passive" things are under control you can go out and be active about attracting people to projects. - Practice running projects to our standards - Practice mentoring & onboarding - Ask *people* you think will be a fit personally (best thing to do) - Hook into the existing mentoring programs - Events - Shouting to the public via blogs, social media, podcasts etc. This isn't something we are alone with. *Every* healthy FOSS community does this. There are whole communities about building communities! Books, events, guides etc. https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/foundations https://chaoss.community https://github.com/maintainers https://sustainoss.org https://opensource.guide/best-practices https://foss-backstage.de https://communityrule.info Working in Public by Nadia Eghbal The Art of Community by Jono So there is, as usual, just a shitload of things to learn and to do. And also as usual: A crowd (like this one here) will not collaborate. Some people out of the crowd will be interested. And only a very small amount of those interested will actually be able to do it. And *those* are the openSUSE community. We need to be more efficient in turning our crowd into a community of maintainers. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang http://www.opensuse.org Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson [View Less]

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openSUSE Finalizes New Code of Conduct
by ddemaio 05 Apr '22

05 Apr '22

The openSUSE Community is proud to announce its new Code of Conduct as approved by the openSUSE Board. The openSUSE Code of Conduct was written during several Community Meetings [1] as a collaborative project and reports were sent to the project mailinglists. The input from the openSUSE community members was sent the openSUSE Board and discussed at length during two public openSUSE Board meetings [2]. During the February 28, 2022, public Board Meeting, it was recognized that openSUSE … [View More]

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