openSUSE Project May 2020

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[opensuse-project] Minutes of openSUSE Board meeting 2020-05-12

by Marina Latini

Dear Community, the followings are the minutes from the board meeting from 2020-05-12 ---------------------- Attendees: Gerald Pfeifer, Axel Braun, Simon Lees, Vinzenz Vietzke, Marina Latini Minutes keeper: Marina Latini Meeting starts at: 22:08 Agenda: 1 openSUSE Jitsi instance for Board calls 2 Extra topic - Missing public minutes 3 Community platform domain 4. Extra topic - Foundation 5 Extra topic - Follow-up on Factory 6 Extra topic - New SSO issue between Heroes and SUSE IT. 1 openSUSE Jitsi instance for Board calls First attempt was not working properly. we tested the instance but for some the audio and/or video was not working. For this meeting the board used the old platform. Outcome: Inform mstrigl and test again the instance and see if the issues are solved. + https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/66173?issue_count=124&issue_position=4… 2 Extra topic - Missing public minutes. Gerald: checked the published minutes and some are still missing and not published. Marina: she has two pending minutes to send out. She will circulate the draft for a final review. Proposal from Gerald: for speeding up the publishing, just wait for the feedback from two board members and then send out the final minutes to the list. 3 Community platform domain The board got a request from marketing community people for using opensu.se domain + Vinz asked for more info like goal and scope. + Marketing people compared what Fedora is using now for community services like for example URL shortner. Issue: the proposed URL is owned by an individual community member. + Simon told that about 2 years ago the owner was in favour to transfer the domain to the project. + Gerald suggests to try to ask first informally, not directly as board, and try to ask what the owner is willing to do now. AI: Vinz will try to contact the owner. The discussion was moved to a generic level, trying to understand if there are other domains to possibly register and if they are tracked somewhere. NOTEs: * https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/64652 * https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-admin-wiki/wiki/Domains ++ Geographical domains should only be used for localized community topics. ++ Owner should be the owner of the openSUSE trademark or a group of trusted people. ++ In case of conflicts the board will resolve the conflict. AI All: List and document the existing domains AI: Gerald replies to Ish for sharing what we discussed about geographical domains and solicit feedback. 4 Extra topic - Foundation: follow-up and status from https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/foundation_extra_resource + as openSUSE we should clarify what we want to achieve. AI: Simon will try to recollect the document shared with SUSE internal. 5 Extra topic - Follow-up on Factory A maintainers is willing to abandon the packages maintained. Subject: "[opensuse-factory] Why am I no longer a maintainer of graphics/OpenShadingLanguage" Subject: "[opensuse-factory] Blender, openCOLLADA and OpenImageIO need a maintainer" AI: Simon will try to contact Dave. 6 Extra topic - New SSO issue between Heroes and SUSE IT. + miss-communication between SUSE-IT and Heroes Team + both the groups worked in parallel without coordinating. + There is an agreement for now and the communication issue seems to be solved for the moment. + Next steps will be discussed when the current IT migration will end. + the topic can be also considered important and valuable for the foundation. Meeting ends at: 22.56 ---------------------- Have a nice day, Marina -- Marina Latini openSUSE Board: deneb_alpha www.documentfoundation.org www.libreitalia.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

7 months, 3 weeks

[opensuse-project] RT Kernel paragraph in release announcement

by ddemaio

Hi all, I thought it might be a good idea to start a new thread for this since it might be overlooked in the original thread for translating the release announcement. Last week there was a decision to have a real-time kernel available in Leap 15.2. Since this is something embedded developers will find highly useful, it makes sense to include a few words about it in the release announcement. Could you please translate and add the following additional sentence and quote to the bottom of the What's New section on https://en.opensuse.org/Release_announcement_15.2 : ; a Real-Time Kernel for managing the timing of microprocessors to ensure time-critical events are processed as efficiently as possible is available in this release. "The addition of a real time kernel to openSUSE Leap unlocks new possibilities," said Gerald Pfeifer, chair of the project's board. "Think edge computing, embedded devices, data capturing, all of which are seeing immense growth. Historically many of these have been the domain of proprietary approaches; openSUSE now opens the floodgates for developers, researchers and companies that are interested in testing real time capabilities or maybe even in contributing. Another domain open source helps open up!" v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months

[opensuse-project] Your openSUSE account requires a new password

by Per Jessen

Dear Community On Monday 18 May 2020 at 07:00 UTC, we will switch over all remaining openSUSE services to the new authentication system. At the same time, the openSUSE forums will also move to the new setup in Nürnberg. Important: The change of our authentication system will require you go to set a new password for your user account. For more details about the changes to the authentication system, its migration status and the re-registration verification, please go to https://idp-portal-info.suse.com. Have a lot fun! -- Per Jessen, Zürich on behalf of openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months

Re: [opensuse-project] Update on petition to call for a non-confidence vote

by Gerald Pfeifer

On Fri 2020-05-15, Chase Crum wrote: > That is a very clear explanation. For those of us who have not received > the petition signing information- do we know when those are expected to > be completely delivered? I’d rather not waste anyone’s time asking if > they haven’t all been sent out yet. https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-05/msg00020.html has a timeline which among others indicates 25 May 2020 - Publish wiki page about the petition, its schedule & procedure - Announcement of the petition on the project mailing list & social media - Ballot is open Gerald

8 months

[opensuse-project] Minutes of openSUSE Board meeting 2020-04-14

by Gerald Pfeifer

[ Apologies, I had those done and failed to send. ] Present: Axel, Gerald, Simon, Vinz Excused: Marina == Election Officials == * We have not seen/heard from the Election Officals on the current items for a bit after the latest update. * Axel and Gerald (independently) reached out to inquire. * AI Gerald: ask election officials to update opensuse-project@. Done. == Status Foundation == * Things have hardly been moving on either end, due to many other things going on (IT carve out from MF, Forums migration, Bugzilla migration, COVID-19, Closing the Leap Gap,...) * Gerald to see to revive things on the SUSE side. WIP. * AI board members: review a note Simon has written. == Logo Design == * Expect further proposals for a potentially new openSUSE logo. * Ultimately likely to see vote all openSUSE members. * Cf. https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/issues/93 == Closing the Leap Gap == * Appears to be proceeding well in terms of engagement and constructive discussions. Lots of good work happening, but will need to see follow through (opening up things,...) and viability of the technical concept. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Status on no-confidence vote

by Ish Sookun

Dear community members, The Election Committee is working on the procedure & schedule to hold a no-confidence vote that was called for [1] on this mailing list. We will provide details in the next few days. Stay safe & healthy. Regards, Ish Sookun (on behalf of the Election Committee) [1] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-03/msg00091.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Accounts, accounts, accounts

by Gerald Pfeifer

Hi folks, as I mentioned in an e-mail earlier this week ( https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-05/msg00008.html ) SUSE and openSUSE are carving out remaining IT assets from Micro Focus this spring. This includes identity management (= user accounts). The existing system that you likely have been using is split into two distinct systems (and hence accounts): (1) One for openSUSE infrastructure and SUSE's development tools, think Bugzilla, Build Service (OBS), openSUSE Wiki,... (2) And one for SUSE's customers and partners, think SUSE Customer Center (SCC), Partner Portal,... Ad (1): Details on the transition for Bugzilla and other openSUSE systems are available at https://idp-portal-info.suse.com. That page is going to be updated regularly -> a good bookmark. Different services migrate one by one over the coming weeks, so be prepared to still use your "old" account in some places during that transition. Ad (2): If you have received an e-mail with the subject "New SUSE User Accounts - partners and customers" and all you care is openSUSE or the tools mentioned above, you probably can ignore that (unless you also are a SUSE customer or are interested in some of SUSE's other programs such as the SUSE Developer Program). https://xkcd.com/730/ :-> Gerald PS: Don't shoot the messenger; merely trying to jump in and share. Thanks to Simon, Adrian, Marcus, and Daniel for caring and input! -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com>, CTO @SUSE + chair @openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Wanted: New hosting for opensuse-community.org

by Martin Schlander

Dear community We need new hosting for the opensuse-community.org website as Bruno "tigerfoot" Friedmann can't host it anymore for personal reasons. If you're not familiar with the site, it's just a basic place for hosting information and one-click installers for multimedia codecs, the YaST Community Repositories "feed" and similar things. For legal reasons it's better to have these things at arm's length outside the official openSUSE infrastructure. However outside the United States I'm pretty sure there should be no legal concerns about hosting this content (note: IANAL). It's been hosted by different individuals in a couple of different European countries for a decade or more now with zero issues. The technical requirements are next to none. Maybe a few megabytes of storage required for static html/css and a few xml files. I assume there's a substantial number of hits/visits, but I don't have statistics. However the files are very small, so the amount of data traffic shouldn't be overwhelming. I'm willing to continue to maintain the content, if I can get access to the new hosting via ftp or whatever. So if you're interested in taking over the hosting, don't hesitate to step up, and Bruno will assist with transferring the domain and any other formalities. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] SLE/LEAP/JUMP Packaging Policy ... and one effect it has.

by PGNet Dev

In case anyone's interested in YA-example, I run openSUSE Leap 15.1 & SLE 15sp1. The former, here, is very definitely the feeder/driver of use & adoption of the latter. TW is not at all an option for production. For me, core tech'y that I care about being both stable & modern includes: kernel, systemd (incl systemd-networkd), dracut, grub, Xen, GCC, git & python Options for openSUSE Leap 15.1, from devel repos, are available & packaged for ALL of those -- except systemd. systemd, OTOH, is shipped in Leap15.1/Leap15.2/SLE15sp1/SLE15sp2 as v234 -- lacking modern functionality, & simply broken in places. afaict, ONLY *TW* packages v244/245 ... Trying to get ANY of the updated versions supported on SLE is an uphill battle, at best. OBS builds of v244/v245 for any of those^ platforms are ... challenged; unless I've missed it, I've seen no successful package builds for any of them. There's little/no interest or response from #opensuse-*, inquiries about policy to opensuse-support list (https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-support/2020-04/msg00070.html) are, so far, uncommented. Attempts to report brokenness, with links to known issues & fixes requiring updates, are dismissed as 'feature requests' with the bugs summarily/unilaterally CLOSED. e.g., https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1169476 "... we can't afford to backport a feature each time an openSUSE user is missing one ..." I find that sort of response closeminded & myopic, but I get it -- not my distro, not my rules. Here, a production OS without a modern/fully-functional systemd is of no interest/use to me; despite my personal preference ... Unless/until an Enterprise-production-class Suse* packages/supports a modern systemd, it's no longer a option. Not Leap, not Jump, and not $SLE. What's this mean just for me? We used to be an all openSUSE/SLES shop; _quite_a_few_ hundreds of installs, a small king's-ransom in license/support costs. By end of this quarter, I'll have moved the _last_ bank of (8) *SUSE production servers, and the development desktops that serve them, to other OS. Me, personally? I'll keep _my_ *personal* desktops & servers as franken-Leap instances as long as I can still hack them into submission; we'll see what systemd package's version stance does to my thinking ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Bugzilla migration (bugzilla.opensuse.org and bugzilla.suse.com)

by Gerald Pfeifer

Hi everyone, as you may know SUSE and openSUSE are carving out the last IT assets from Micro Focus this spring. Next in line is Bugzilla. Bugzilla is particularly tricky since we (openSUSE and SUSE) on the one hand and Micro Focus (Novell,...) on the other all share one database instance. Part of the carve out is to surgically separate openSUSE and SUSE issues from the rest. => BUGZILLA IS GOING TO BE UNAVAILABLE from Thursday, May 7th 14:00 UTC (16:00 CEST, 8am MDT) until Sunday, May 10th. During that period the current (= old) instance should not show openSUSE and SUSE projects/products any longer, and reporting of new issues should not be feasible. When the new instance is up and running it will look and feel like today, just reside in a SUSE data center (and only carry openSUSE and SUSE bugs). You will need to change your password - that should be all. Pardon the interruption - and thanks to all who have been working on this! Gerald PS: For the technically interested, the move goes hand-in-hand with a new authentication system replacing one operated by Micro Focus. Our Bugzilla will have a banner with a link when it's migrated. At that point, between Monday, May 11th and June 30th at the latest, please migrate your user account. Details will be described at https://idp-portal-info.suse.com. ) -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com>, CTO @SUSE + chair @openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 2 weeks

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