January 2014 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] Board meeting minutes
by Robert Schweikert 23 Jan '14

23 Jan '14

Hi, Sorry it took a bit to get these posted. The board had its first meeting of the new year on the 13th. The meeting minutes are now posted on the wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_meeting#Meeting_2014-01-13 As always if you have any questions or concerns please reply to this thread or send a message to the boar ML. We will have a face to face meeting in Nuremberg February 8th & 9th. If any one has topics that you think should be discussed at the meeting please bring them to our attention. We are still iterating on the rough outline of an agenda and expect to post it to the wiki after the next board call this coming Monday January 27. Have a lot of fun.... Your openSUSE Board -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [Reminder] GSoC Ideas on Ideas Page
by Saurabh Sood 23 Jan '14

23 Jan '14

Hi, We are 2 weeks from the application deadline for Google Summer of Code for 2014. So far, we only have two ideas on the ideas page. Requesting mentors to add their ideas to the page https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_ideas -- Regards,. Saurabh Sood Have a lot of fun! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Minutes of openSUSE Project Meeting of January 22th, 2014
by Vincent Untz 22 Jan '14

22 Jan '14

Here are the minutes of today's meeting. Cheers, Vincent Minutes: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2014/opensuse-proje… Minutes (text): http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2014/opensuse-proje… Log: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2014/opensuse-proje… =========================================== #opensuse-project: openSUSE Project meeting =========================================== Meeting started by vuntz at 15:01:37 UTC. The full logs are available at http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2014/opensuse-proje… . Meeting summary --------------- * GSoC (vuntz, 15:05:17) * list of projects is too small for now (vuntz, 15:25:17) * we need more mentors (vuntz, 15:25:20) * manugupt1 is looking if other projects might want to participate with us (vuntz, 15:25:30) * Update on marketing materials (vuntz, 15:29:45) * ACTION: ilmehtar to ask unixstickers.com if we can get discounts on large orders for our advocates (vuntz, 15:42:08) * anything else? (vuntz, 15:48:34) * board has a face-to-face meeting in two weeks; feel free to contact us to give us more topics to discuss! (vuntz, 15:49:28) * ACTION: kigurame to investigate possible crowdfunding solutions and report back to Board (ilmehtar, 15:51:11) Meeting ended at 16:13:26 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * ilmehtar * ilmehtar to ask unixstickers.com if we can get discounts on large orders for our advocates * kigurame * kigurame to investigate possible crowdfunding solutions and report back to Board People present (lines said) --------------------------- * vuntz (40) * manugupt1 (25) * kigurame (24) * ishwon (19) * differentreality (19) * henne (17) * saurabhsood91 (16) * ilmehtar (16) * |miska| (9) * awafaa (4) * tux93 (3) * tigerfoot (3) * bugbot (2) * warlordfff (1) * koda (1) * izabelvalverde (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] member of OpenSUSE github project
by Martin Caj 22 Jan '14

22 Jan '14

HI All, How can I join to OpenSUSE project on github.com ? I would like to publish there the source code for http://lizards.opensuse.org in the similar way as is done for the https://connect.opensuse.org/ - openSUSE / connect His might help us to cooperate on updates for it with IS&T department od SUSE. my github user name is mcaj. and so far I have published there my hackweek project dv2switch and a few small "home-used" utilities see - https://github.com/mcaj If you need additional information cantact me on IRC or email. Have nice day. Martin

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 15:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 21 Jan '14

21 Jan '14

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 15:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=22&month=1&year=2014&h… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Karma for all
by Ancor Gonzalez Sosa 17 Jan '14

17 Jan '14

Hi all, During the last days, the openSUSE Team has proposed several changes in the openSUSE processes and tools: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2013-11/msg00920.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2013-12/msg00044.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2013-12/msg00132.html The main goal of this mail is to present another idea that was already discussed during the recent openSUSE Summit: the Karmafication of the openSUSE infrastructure. People there liked the idea and some related topics have already been raised in the last days on both Factory and Project mailing lists, so we bring the idea here for wider debate and especially to get input from you all. Where can Karmafication be useful? 1. Decision making. As you all know, most final decisions on the technical side rests in Coolo's shoulders. He plays the role of a benevolent dictator, working based on his perception of skills and dedication. Sure he is fair and experienced but still a single human being. 2. Guidance We lack a clear path from newbie to contributor and then to experienced contributor (like maintainer, reviewer etc). Also, we have a wide variety of guidelines which we'd like people to follow better but which aren't hard rules. 3. Motivation There are areas in openSUSE that do not get the love and attention they deserve in both technical and non-technical terms. People who work on them should be recognized and rewarded. How does Karmafication support the factory proposal goals in the above areas? The idea is to add certain 'social' features to our infrastructure to better track contributions and make them more visible. Contributors would earn AND lose karma points based on their actions (or lack of them), that's why we are calling it 'Karmafication'. We explicitly want to avoid the word 'gamification' because is not only about engaging people or motivating them. The main goal is to help our decision making processes: we're a meritocracy (or a do-ocracy, if you prefer) which is very much trust-based, and that trust is very much based on what you do and what you did in the recent past. Karma should have an impact in: 1. Decision making. Make contributions visible: credit where it is due. Having a profile page for every contributor in OBS would be useful in decision making at all levels. Is this person a good candidate to become technical reviewer? Should I accept this risky SR to factory? In the future, once the system is mature enough, a minimum of karma could even be required to perform some actions. 2. Guidance By defining tasks and rewards we could 'spell out' a path, or several, from beginner to more experienced contributor. Think for example a number of tasks around your first step to contributing; or tasks related to more advanced hackery like fixing certain type of bugs. It could also be used as a way of define best practices for OBS and encourage people to follow them. 3. Motivation Motivate people and visibly reward them for working on things which usually fly below the radar. It would be great to have openSUSE contributors pointing to their OBS profile pages as a reference of their skills and experience, in the same way that most open source developers points to their github page. We could make this recognition more tangible with some special gifts (what about a "I take care of stuff!" t-shirt?). A big benefit of Karmafication over other ways of reaching the same goals is that most alternatives require making rules, commitees and bureaucracy and require much more work. Soft motivation through Karmafication brings us these benefits in a much nicer and more flexible way, hopefully without the downsides of rigorous rules. See this video for some insights in rules vs 'soft nudging': http://vimeo.com/54434167 What do you think about the whole idea? Would you like openSUSE to be the first distribution with a karma-driven development process? -- Ancor González Sosa openSUSE Team at SUSE Linux GmbH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Changes in Factory
by Jos Poortvliet 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

Hi all, We have digested most of your input on our proposed changes to the factory development workflow. Based on that, we'll be making some more concrete plans on what to hack on first to get there, like the openQA integration and staging projects. Next week our team has a meeting in Nuremberg and we'll have a more concrete plan after that. Feedback and offers for help continue to be welcome! The openSUSE Team

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[opensuse-project] knowing what we do
by Jos Poortvliet 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

Hey all, As the openSUSE team works on our tools like openQA, we would like to keep you up to date on what we do, our progress and perhaps see if some of you who are interested in these tools can help out. But working in the open sounds easier than it is. We organize our work in a public task tracker [1] and our code goes on github [2]. We also blog about it [3] and give talks [4] at oSC. Still, we have tended to communicate too much over our internal IRC channel and mailing list, something we want to change in the future coding sprints. The question I now have for all of you is: WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? How could we reach you? Engage you? What would make you help out if you can? We really want to have a decent plan AND execution not only in the technical area but also when it comes to working in and around the openSUSE community. Please help us with that! Hugs, Jos [1] see https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/openqa-improvement for openQA [2] see https://github.com/openSUSE-Team/openQA as example for, again, openQA [3] see http://lizards.opensuse.org/2013/06/06/openqa-in-opensuse/ as example [4] see www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjKqN3eIFWQ - openQA

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[opensuse-project] So long!
by Joerg Stephan 12 Jan '14

12 Jan '14

Hello to the list, i just wanted to tell that i will stop my contribution to the openSUSE project. I could leave quite and secretly, but ... During the discussion which went along the election process it showed up that my ideas for the project and the ideas of the others doesn't fit together. Maybe caused by christmas break, but the election is over and the discussion stopped right after that. I showed a list from other projects and i guess i will start contributing somewhere there. openSUSE was for years my weapon of choice, caused by i liked the way openSUSE was created and mostly cause i am an old SUSE fanboy. I always liked the idea that you can change the mind of people, change the idea and contribute in every way i want to. Now i am a bit dis-chanted by all the discussion and the way it is done. So, maybe we meet again, we will definitely meet at a conference/booth. Cheers & So long & Auf wiedersehen & Have a lot of fun Jörg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE mentioned on GSoC Blog
by Saurabh Sood 11 Jan '14

11 Jan '14

Hi, We just got mentioned on the GSoC blog :) http://google-opensource.blogspot.in/2014/01/google-summer-of-code-veteran-… GSoC 2014 is underway, and as a reminder, projects can be added to our ideas page https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_ideas We have about three weeks before org applications start. Hoping to see some awesome projects on the list soon ;) -- Regards,. Saurabh Sood Have a lot of fun! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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