December 2013 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] List of patches, Bugzilla
by 21er.org Admin 24 Dec '13

24 Dec '13

Hello everyone, A recent patch ("OpenSuSE-2013-1015") with the very descriptive description of "SDL: Update to current version", marked as critical, led me to investigate what this was actually patching. Without success. Googling for "opensuse patch list" or "opensuse bugzilla" does not bring up either of these two, a list of patches for a certain version of the OpenSuSE distribution apparently does not even exist and when going for the Bugzilla, there is a link on the wiki which redirects you to a Novell login. After account creation, where they require everything including ancestors to 3rd degree and chewing-gum-preference, there is no obvious way to list all bugs... Long story short, this is awkward: OpenSuSE is an open source project, I do not want to have to login to any company portal to be able to access a Bugzilla (if it is possible without login, i did not find the link). Also I want to be able to browse bugs and most of all, it must be possible to find information about patches online EASILY. Even Microsoft managed that (and they do not manage much) with their KB<id>, as do other linux distributions. Please prove me wrong and show me there is an online list with detail information about each patch and something more specific than "version update" for a critical patch, preferably referencing a bug. I know everything is "signed" and all, but i do not see how i can trust the OpenSuSE public key in days like these (no offense towards the project). Regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Soliciting ideas for conference keynote speakers
by Robert Schweikert 19 Dec '13

19 Dec '13

Hi, The CfP team is soliciting ideas for keynote speakers for oSC14. We have 1 slot (Saturday keynote) for an external speaker. If you know of a speaker in the FOSS area that is located in Europe and that you have enjoyed listening to in the past or that you think has a message relevant to our community please respond to this thread with your proposed speaker. Links to recorded sessions are much appreciated. The CfP team will take your nominations under consideration. Thanks for your help, The oSC14 CfP team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE 2016 picture
by agustin benito bethencourt 18 Dec '13

18 Dec '13

Hi, following yesterday's mail[1], we introduce some of the ideas we would like to discuss with you in order to create a common big picture we can share. This big picture is relevant in order to define the actions to execute the following months/ years. [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2013-11/msg00094.html What do we want to achieve? Goals ================================= 1) Add focus to increase alignment among contributors. 2) Foster the community and the user base. - Starting from our current community, we want to keep increasing the number of contributors, specially those working on core parts of the distribution/project. - The openSUSE user base needs to grow. We propose to be even more open to new niches. 3) Catalyze openSUSE maturity process. - openSUSE has an interesting number of contributors. Now we think it is time to reinforce our structures. - Having more solid structures/groups will allow openSUSE to assume more responsibilities and deliver. - In general, we think we need few rules but good ones, easy to follow and analyze. 4) Attract new players by becoming more attractive to new players. - The Free Software ecosystem is now full of companies/non-profits that use, deploy, develop and/or understand Free Software and its benefits. - We want to support ideas toward increasing our value for them so they come to openSUSE and become good citizens of the project. Based on these goals, there are 4 aspects we propose to focus on: Enhanced Factory ================ We would like to put effort in Factory in the following direction: * New process getting the best of Factory, Tumbeweed and devel projects. We need everybody contributing in a single point for a single purpose. We are just too few to spread efforts. * Improve development process based on our strengths. What are we very good at? Let's base the new process on that. * Clarify roles and responsibilities. Redesign processes so we increase the community participation in key areas. Teams instead of champions. * More stability and QA. Testing before submitting. Factory should be usable. * Rolling distribution based on release early/release often principle. This proposal will be more in depth described tomorrow on Factory mailing list where we will expand the bullet points mentioned here. Overhauled openSUSE Release =========================== Once we have established the basis, we think we can concentrate in our current user base. That is, end users and non-OS developers that needs a solid base. We see the openSUSE Release focused on two main targets: * A desktop and a server oriented release that target end users that work everyday with their computers. * Using OBS repositories to cover further use cases. - The idea is to initially target developers that need a stable base and tools on top. - Another interesting use case are derivatives. There could be more. Principles that would drive our efforts: * Stability and quality as core values. - We can make the more stable distribution for users based on Green values. * Longer release cycle. * Enhanced maintenance model * OBS can be use in a smart and efficient way to add flexibility to this model. - People that needs stable base but recent version of tools. - New niches: big data, NoSQL, new programming languages, cloud.... Open Governance Model ===================== Our Governance model has improved over the years. We would like to work with the community the following years in taking some steps further. * Technical governance model adapted to our new development processes: very few but clearer rules. Mentoring ecosystem. * Project governance model: evolution from our current model while keeping our core values. More efficient structure to accomplish the project goals. - SUSE role evolution: Owner (2005) -> Main sponsor -> Patron, together with other players. Where can SUSE add value, beyond supporting ideas like the ones described (or others)? Ralf Flaxa in his keynote [2] pointed some ideas where SUSE could complement openSUSE, increasing SUSE's contribution. We would like to hear your feedback about these or other ideas to define how we can achieve this goal. [2] http://youtu.be/fdroo2JZano In summary, we propose to focus in the direction where we already shine: The Linux you work with, for a living. Share your thoughts =================== There are some questions we would like you to answer: 1) Do you agree with the proposed goals? 2) Are there any other aspects relevant in this discussion? Can you summarize them? 3) Which are the major risks you see in this view? 4) How do you think we should proceed in order to go from these ideas to real actions? 5) What suggestions do you have for this "New Factory" and "New Release"? Please add any other comments or ideas you have in this or a separate thread. Saludos -- Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe(a)suse.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] oSC14 third IRC meeting reminder - tomorrow, 17:00 CET
by Svebor Prstačić 18 Dec '13

18 Dec '13

Dear all, The proposed agenda for the next oSC14 meeting is here: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_meeting#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting And to remind you, the meeting is due tomorrow, 17:00 CET @ #opensuse-project. Check your local meeting time here: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=oSC14%2C+third +IRC+meeting&iso=20131219T17&p1=281&ah=1 Also, like we agreed on our last IRC meeting (http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2013/opensuse-proje…), the local core team has chosen the motto and logo for oSC14. It has been very interesting to watch how the logo evolved through various proposals, and we think that in the end the last one is the best one. So, the chosen logo is: https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/51efb2afe6df929a28002210/52a144… - A shield that incorporates the motifs of all involved sides - Geeko, Dubrovnik and Croatia. The motto we chose is: "The Strength To Change" It seems fitting because it is both tied to changes that are being discussed on the project ML - topics that will no doubt be present at the conference, but also to the shield (logo) - which is an object behind which one stands strong, and it also helps one push forward. Hope you guys like it and, hope to see you tomorrow on IRC. Pozdrav, Svebor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] three necessary steps?
by jdd 18 Dec '13

18 Dec '13

Hello, this is partly related to the discussion about priorities, but I don't want to hijack this other thread. I just wanted to say that I noticed three important blocking steps in my geecko life. I don't ask you to solve *my* problem, but I thing the project in his whole could benefit if more people could pass these steps more easily. * use of bugzilla. I was part of the very first open office french gteam loooooooooooooong time ago, an,d I had to wait several *years* before being able to manage bugzilla. We need still something more progressive to guide new geeckos to make usefull bugzilla reports (I'm not even sure mine are good) * use of the wiki. I started the french wiki and was from the beginning in the opensuse adventure. But when the wiki was re-organised, I stopped completely using it. A wiki is *by nature* unorganised and anyway accessed mostly through google or other search engine. Having to find where to put my participation was relly too difficult. - there is at least a need of better explanation of where do what work. * right now, or better said one year ago I wanted to help a friend developer entering his software (EKD=EnKoderDemixer) in OBS. I was never able to do so. Not for OBS itself, but I don't understand hos to write a spec file. I don't even understand the vocabulary used in the help files.... I compile kernel since nearly 20 years now so I should be able to do OBS. I probably could achieve this if I had not other (family) problems at the same time, but this is anyway a blocking part. Better doc? as I still have this work to do, I may help :-) thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] oSC14 - business track
by Svebor Prstačić 18 Dec '13

18 Dec '13

Hi all, We have been thinking about a business track idea for oSC14, but aren't sure whether to do this (and how) or not. So in hope to reach a community decision, and have the dos and the don'ts defined, please give your thoughts on the ideas below - what you see could, should, couldn't or shouldn't be done. * Upsides * - It is a way to attract sponsors - Would provide insights to users' POV and, - It is a way for the community to get some potentially interesting feedback - Might result in finding a way for sponsors to support or work with the community - Might be interesting for community members using openSUSE for business too * Downsides * - Might not be as community oriented as we would like - Might not be openSUSE centered enough ..? * Format / description * - it could be in a dedicated room, last half a day - start with a few sponsor / business lectures and end with a round table or discussion between the community, SUSE, sponsors? - comments on this topic from Hans De Raad (potential sponsor): "would a sponsor have the opportunity to do some informative promotional sessions? I'd also like to do some demo's about the client side of openSUSE and the current level of usability the groupware suites (Thunderbird/Lightning, Kontact) have achieved, is that something you would consider?" - do we say that the prerequisite is to be a sponsor to apply for a business lecture in the business track? - the simplest formula I see would be: have business topics in one room for half a day, or the whole day... - or have lectures first and then continue with a round table .. have a discussion about stuff What is "stuff" could be left to our sponsors/business lecturers to tell us: what do they care about in free software, in openSUSE that helps or enables them to do business and discuss that. It could be interesting to try to find a way for them to become a part of the community or supporters of the community's efforts. * The DOs * - lectures are openSUSE related - lectures are free software or open source related * The DON’Ts * - talk excessively about your company and your products, sales talks Pozdrav, Svebor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Fwd: Minutes of GSoC discussion
by Saurabh Sood 17 Dec '13

17 Dec '13

Hi, Following were the minutes of the GSoC discussion yesterday 1.) Wiki page with Junior Jobs. 2.) Incomplete jobs serve as GCI tasks 3.) One person takes responsibility of cleanup 4.) Everybody can update the list of tasks 5.) task, category, mentor, student, status, reference links for each task - INFO: 1.) |miska| to help with admin this year 2.) need cover for 2015 AI: 1.) Saurabh to update wiki pages Regards,. Saurabh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Fwd: Feedback & Call for admins for GSoC and GCI
by Saurabh Sood 15 Dec '13

15 Dec '13

How about an IRC meeting on Monday 1500 UTC? (or any other time as comfortable to others?) On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Manu Gupta <manugupt1(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sure > > On Dec 11, 2013 12:05 PM, "Saurabh Sood" <saurabhsood91(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Can we have a short discussion today after the project meeting if that's >> ok with all? >> >> On Dec 9, 2013 11:14 PM, "Saurabh Sood" <saurabhsood91(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Cool. I am usually free after 3 PM IST on weekdays. We can pick a date >>> and time comfortable to most :) >>> Cheers, >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Manu Gupta <manugupt1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Saurabh Sood <saurabhsood91(a)gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> Can we have a small meeting on IRC sometime this week, as in to list >>> >> down and assign tasks? This could help us get going? >>> >> >>> > Sure, let us decide on one if everyone agrees >>> >> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Manu Gupta <manugupt1(a)gmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Saurabh Sood >>> >>> <saurabhsood91(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>> >>>> Arent we already late for GCI? I think that the 20 mentoring orgs >>> >>>> have >>> >>>> already been announced. >>> >>> Yes, but what stops from not taking part in GCI is we never have any >>> >>> tasks GCI related, so we need to make sure we have more tasks >>> >>> available :) >>> >>> >>> >>>> I am planning to work on updating the wiki pages in the coming week. >>> >>> Thanks a lot >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Regards,. >>> >>>> Saurabh >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Kshitij Gupta <kgupta8592(a)gmail.com> >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Hello, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On 12/5/13, Manu Gupta <manugupt1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>> Hey All >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Thanks a lot for such an interesting session this year for GSoC. >>> >>>>>> If >>> >>>>>> you have any feedback >>> >>>>>> for us, please let us know. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> From a student's POV, it was great being a part of the program. >>> >>>>> Thank >>> >>>>> you for all the effort you guys did put in. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> Next thing, we wanted to do was a call for admins, have one more >>> >>>>>> to >>> >>>>>> our team, while we did pretty ok, but we will have less time in >>> >>>>>> the >>> >>>>>> next year. If anyone who has been with us for the past and will >>> >>>>>> like >>> >>>>>> to help us (this also includes other orgs), it will be great. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> We want to organize both GSoC and GCI for the coming session, so I >>> >>>>>> hope we maybe able to manage well amongst ourselves. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Any kind of input is very much welcome >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I would love to help with GCI and GSoC (if I don't participate next >>> >>>>> year). Let me know if I can help in any way. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Regards, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Kshitij Gupta >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>> Regards >>> >>>>>> Manu Gupta & Saurabh >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>> Regards >>> >>>>>> Manu Gupta >>> >>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org >>> >>>>>> To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> -- >>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org >>> >>>>> To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> Regards,. >>> >>>> Saurabh Sood >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Have a lot of fun! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Manu Gupta >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Regards,. >>> >> Saurabh Sood >>> >> >>> >> Have a lot of fun! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Regards >>> > Manu Gupta >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards,. >>> Saurabh Sood >>> >>> Have a lot of fun! -- Regards,. Saurabh Sood Have a lot of fun! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Don't forget - Election period ends next Sunday 15th
by Izabel Valverde 13 Dec '13

13 Dec '13

Hello! Before heading out for your weekend do not forget to vote! Please go to: https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/digitaltomm/43818/opensuse-board… and cast your vote for this election. The election period ends at December 15th, next Sunday. You can see the Board Candidates Plataform here http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election Thank you, Your Election committee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Meeting minutes from today's oSC14 meeting
by Robert Schweikert 12 Dec '13

12 Dec '13

Meeting ended Thu Dec 12 17:32:24 2013 UTC. The log and minutes are available from: (v 0.1.4) (12:32:24 PM) bugbot: Minutes: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2013/opensuse-proje… (12:32:24 PM) bugbot: Minutes (text): http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2013/opensuse-proje… (12:32:24 PM) bugbot: Log: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2013/opensuse-proje… -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead Public Cloud Architect rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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