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[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse] After testing 11.2.
by Boyd Lynn Gerber 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

A post that really needs to go to the opensuse project list as well as our own list. -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> 801 849-0213 ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:05:46 -0700 From: Boyd Lynn Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> To: opensuse(a)opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] After testing 11.2......... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Hans Witvliet wrote: > On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 11:04 -0800, John Andersen wrote: >> Additionally, until there is some resolution of the Long Term Support issue, >> the short life span of most releases means none but the hobbyist will be >> moving from Ubuntu, certainly not any of the OEM's releasing Linux machines. >> Ubuntu LucidLynx due in April will be the next LTS version. >> >> OpenSuse's LTS is still a pipe dream. http://lwn.net/Articles/350229/ I do not think it is a pipe dreame given we are working on it and we have 18 months before it goes into an un-supported state. There is more of an ergentcy if we dow and openSLES. >> Its just pretty hard justify OpenSuse on Aunt Nellie's machine >> when you know you will have to do it all over in 18 months. +1 > just some remarks.... ..do it all over in 18 months... uh, what wrong with a > "zypper dup" once in a while? Or are you visiting Aunt Nellie only once every > five years? '-) 8^) > Looks like the people commenting on lwn's artice are missing the main > point: You see comments like "Novell should this or that..." > > If the community really likes a openSuSE-LTS thing, the community should > provide it. I just can not imagine what Novell would be gaining by it, > It will only cost them dearly, both in man-hours but also in cpu-cycles > and storage. Because of it, they removed all 10.3-repo's from the OBS. Novell has said we may use OBS and possibly create an area for openSUSE LTS. They had assisted in having an Education project with iso and all. The thing in this initiative, has really come down to 2 options. An openSLES, or an limited server oriented openSUSE. The choices are SLES 11 for openSLES and openSUSE 11.2 for open SUSE xxx LTS. > Anybody around having their own OBS who can completely rebuild 10.3? > Probably not... > If one can find enough resources do rebuild it, one needs a small army > of competent and trust-worthy people who are willing to spent huge > amount of time debugging, recoding, testing testing and retesting. > > And by the way, one needs probably also their own bugtracking system, > and probably more of those little things.. > > Would love to see it (good for the community) but i think it's highly > unlikely it will ever become reality. There are plenty of private OBS's ofr Local BS's. The reall isssue is trust in who is doing what for what. Taking with the SLES management has expressed concerns that with the current economic condidtion we would greatly reduce the number of SLES purchases. The key people in the SLES group who I thought would welcome the project with open arms were not very enthusiastic about it. But given most of us wanting to do this come from the openSUSE community we have had talks with many openSUSE and other Managment. One thing that has come out of it is the announcement With the announcement http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-announce/2009-10/msg00013.html We now have the oportunity to now really be able to provide and openSUSE LTS with out a lot of obstucales. In the various talks we have had it appears the given the current economic climit, we could posssibly do more harm than good with an openSLES. Most of the members that have stepped up to be willing to do the security updates and back ports have come from the openSUSE community. With the community taking over support and many other functions with the aid of openSUSE, we gain critical training and open dialogs with the current support team to gain knowledge to provide with the choosen community members a team that during the openSUSE 11.2 life time can/ or are able to build the trust needed for an openSUSE LTS. Personally I have change from a strong openSLES to looking at embracing openSUSE in a reduced set that would be about the same work, but with out the need for an attorney and many of the issues/problems I saw with openSLES There have been talks with the SLES managment and the ones that I thought would be behind such an effort right now seem to view it as more of a problem; Natuarlly there are those that are the free-loaders, who do not step up to the plate and really take part in any way they are able, whether it be coding, financial support, manuals... Also I was in hopes of gaining support from Novell in the form of a free SLES with the ability to get the SLES updates with little to now probem. I had hoped for this so we do not in any way endanger current SLES licenses. We need to take this all in mind with our decisison as to which initiative we choose. This where we are now. We are waiting for us to do the things we normally do with a new release. So this will take up a few weeks before we really see more movement on this initiative. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Last Day for pre-launch publicity!
by Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 11 Nov '09

11 Nov '09

Hi all, We're in the home stretch for the openSUSE 11.2 release tomorrow. We need everybody who loves openSUSE to help spread the word! If you're on Twitter, Identi.ca, Facebook, and other social networks, please take just a few minutes to help get the word out about openSUSE 11.2. Some suggestions - but please use this link when referring to the 11.2 launch prior to the announcement: http://bit.ly/knZug Here are the suggestions: Get ready for #openSUSE 11.2 - coming out tomorrow, November 12: http://bit.ly/knZug openSUSE 11.2 with the latest GNOME, KDE, Firefox, and more tomorrow!: http://bit.ly/knZug Spread the word: #openSUSE 11.2 Everything you need to get started with Linux on November 12: http://bit.ly/knZug Also, if you have a blog or web site and want to publicize openSUSE 11.2, Jakub Steiner has put together several banners of all shapes and sizes here: http://en.opensuse.org/Buttons#Banners_for_11.2 They're beautiful and go with any blog's decor. :-) We're having a pre-launch gathering in #opensuse-project tomorrow starting at 11:00 UTC (that's 20:00 in Japan, 12:00 in Germany, 06:00 on the East Coast of the U.S., and ridiculously early on the West Coast -- see here: http://bit.ly/xRz0h) Let's kick it up a notch and let the world know about openSUSE 11.2! Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net> openSUSE Community Manager Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Let's meet in #openSUSE-Project tomorrow at 11:00 UTC
by Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 11 Nov '09

11 Nov '09

Hey all, We're just hours away from officially unleashing openSUSE 11.2. Lots of Launch Parties are planned for Thursday and after, but we should also get together virtually to celebrate. If you're interested in helping with the last-minute details, like making changes to the openSUSE wiki, we'll be coordinating that in #opensuse-project on Freenode as well. Be sure to blog, tweet, dent, update your Facebook wall, and so on about the launch! Let's spread the word about openSUSE 11.2 and have a lot of fun! Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net> openSUSE Community Manager Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Final Promotional Video of openSUSE 11.2
by Shayon 11 Nov '09

11 Nov '09

Hello ppl, Finally the promo video is done.You can check the below links for further information.So now you just need to use this to SPREAD THE WORD! openSUSE. You can use it in the launch parties and other similar functions.Specially the ambassadors.Show it to your friends/relatives to let them know about the basic thing.Blog/tweet it,What ever you can do to promote the product,just do it :) .Good luck !! Youtube link - http://z.pe/CM1 Download Link - http://z.pe/CvJ Best, Shayon -- openSUSE Wiki Team Member http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock Website: http://www.shay0n.hpage.com Email: hkwarlock(a)gmail.com Twitter: wwarl0ck -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Promo Video for 11.2
by Shayon 10 Nov '09

10 Nov '09

Hello, Well i recently planned out a kind of promo video for openSUSE 11.2 release.Due to lack of time (as i have my studies pending :) ) and having not much of knowledge in Video Editing , I couldn't create a better one.But i suppose with your valuable comments and bit of more hard work.We can make it a better one.For the time being this just the test!. Looking forward for your comments :) . Link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JXFYT_oCl4 Best, Shayon -- openSUSE Wiki Team Member http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock Website: http://www.shay0n.hpage.com Email: hkwarlock(a)gmail.com Twitter: wwarl0ck -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Proposal for better contributing (Sub) Projects
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 08 Nov '09

08 Nov '09

Hello Mates, ATM we have an good Infrastructure for Projects. We have Mailinglists, Wiki, IRC and Newsportal. But administrating and coordinating an Project needs more. I miss an professional Projectmanager like redmine. So we can create Tasks and have an better administration Process. It is possible to setup redmine in our Server and give each Project and own Space? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Member openSUSE Ambassador openSUSE Marketing Team openSUSE Build Service Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com ClaimID: http://claimid.com/saigkill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Nice part 1 video review of openSUSE 11.2
by Dean Hilkewich 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Hey guys, Just came across this today and I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before but there is a pretty nice review of OS 11.2 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vquPKhszDes The openSUSE 11.2 review part starts @ 1:29:00 and is about 25 minutes long. They are planning for a second part continuing on the review I guess in their next episode. Thought I would pass it along. Dean -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-marketing] Promo Video for 11.2
by Shayon 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Koushik Kumar Nundy wrote: > The fact that Kino is rudimentary is hardly a problem. it is atleast > as powerful as Windows Movie Maker, and see how good Shayon has worked > on it. > > P.S. Shay0n, what did you use for screencasting, or did you use > screenshots only?? > > Sorry for the repetition.Actually needed to make a correction Hello, Koushik thanks for the appreciation.Well i used screenshots for it. :) .And i now i am trying my hands out on Kino ! Best, Shayon -- openSUSE Wiki Team Member http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock Website: http://www.shay0n.hpage.com Email: hkwarlock(a)gmail.com Twitter: wwarl0ck -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-marketing] Promo Video for 11.2
by Shayon 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Koushik Kumar Nundy wrote: > The fact that Kino is rudimentary is hardly a problem. it is atleast > as powerful as Windows Movie Maker, and see how good Shayon has worked > on it. > > P.S. Shay0n, what did you use for screencasting, or did you use > screenshots only?? > > Hello, Koushik thanks for the appreciation.Well i used screencasting for it. :) .And i now i am trying my hands out on Kino ! Best, Shayon -- openSUSE Wiki Team Member http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock Website: http://www.shay0n.hpage.com Email: hkwarlock(a)gmail.com Twitter: wwarl0ck -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Directory of SocNet sites for openSUSE users
by Shayon 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Hello Everyone, Well as we are approaching towards the release of openSUSE 11.2.I feel now its high time to promote the product and spread the word.Which can be done effectively by spreading it on the SocNet sites.Below are the links mentioned of the pages created on the wiki , where you can add your selfs and then follow/add amongst other SUSE users to SPREAD the WORD together.Thus this will also help in other aspect of/for openSUSE.So be a part of it.Proud to be an openSUSE user!! 1)Twitter user list : http://en.opensuse.org/SocNet/Twitter_user_list 2)Facebook user list : http://en.opensuse.org/SocNet/Facebook_user_list 3)Identi.ca user list : http://en.opensuse.org/SocNet/Identica_user_list HAVE FUN ;) Best, Shayon -- openSUSE Wiki Team Member http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock Website: http://www.shay0n.hpage.com Email: hkwarlock(a)gmail.com Twitter: wwarl0ck -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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