July 2007 - openSUSE Translation - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-translation] SVN Branches in suse-i18n
by Karl Eichwalder 30 Jun '08

30 Jun '08

We are in the process creating branches: https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/suse-i18n/branches/SLE10SP1 For SLE10 SP1 https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/suse-i18n/branches/openSUSE-10_2-Branch For openSUSE 10.2 Thus far, none of these branches is open for check-ins. If you want to fix anything 10.2 related, just use the trunk as during the last months. In case of serious ("critical") issues of which you want to see an online update, create a bugzilla entry as well. Most of the translation iusses are by definition not "critical", so do not be disappointed if we cannot release on official update. More information on the branches later. -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH GPG: 1024D/06EB882E B2A3 AF2F CFC8 40B1 67EA 475A 5903 A21B 06EB 882E --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Translation Update for SLE10 SP1 and Forthcoming openSUSE 10.3
by Karl Eichwalder 23 Nov '07

23 Nov '07

We (Novell Globalization Services [Dublin]) are working on translation updates and several new translations for SLE10 SP1. We will submit these translations to the SLE10SP1 branch of the forge repository at https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/suse-i18n . For SP1, we cannot accept additional translations done but community members. So I'd like to ask you not to touch the SLE10SP1. When the SP1 translations are done, we want to promote them to the trunk of the SVN and thus they will become available for openSUSE 10.3. This will be a strong push for languages such as Arabian, Catalan, some Indian and South African languages. This also mean that you should save your time now to avoid work duplication. You don't want to translate files such as zypper, rug, or zmd twice. Thus far it is undecided, whether we should just add the new translations the trunk or whether we also want to override existing translations with those done in the SLE10SP1 branch. Here is the preliminary SLE10SP1 language list: de German en_?? English es Spanish fr French it Italian ja Japanese pt_BR Portuguese (Brazil) zh_CN Chinese (Simplified) zh_TW Chinese (Traditional) cs Czech da Danish fi Finnish hu Hungarian nb Norwegian nl Dutch pl Polish ru Russian sv Swedish af Afrikaans ar Arabic bn Bengali ca Catalan gu Gujarati hi Hindi mr Marathi ta Tamil xh Xhosa zu Zulu -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH GPG: 1024D/06EB882E B2A3 AF2F CFC8 40B1 67EA 475A 5903 A21B 06EB 882E --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] KBabel
by Carlos E. R. 07 Aug '07

07 Aug '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I ask this here because I think you know something about this. After reporting a bug (memory hole) in kbabel (Bugzilla #256363) I'm told that «KBabel is unmaintained upstream». If this is so, what tool are you folks using to translate .po files? KBabel is the most advanced tool I know of. If it dissapears, I can't translate: as bad as that :-/ (I translate to Spanish some projects out there, like xine). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGOnVNtTMYHG2NR9URAkmCAJ9C/GEK5t7WEaQu7nZvhaVQlAP5+gCfZfUk hDvSKNMuIYU/rVz0T5Ckdy8= =Tsqs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[opensuse-translation] update-desktop-files with enhanced PO file format
by Karl Eichwalder 05 Aug '07

05 Aug '07

In update-desktop-files we now use the new enhanced PO file format: #: /opt/kde3/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers/zoom.desktop msgctxt "Name(zoom.desktop)" msgid "Setup..." msgstr "" "msgctxt" is an additional field that contains context information. It is read-only, you must not translate it. Just translate the msgid and enter the translation into the msgstr field. Some tools do not understand this format (Emacs/po-mode). Take care... -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] OpenSUSE 10.3?
by Olav Pettershagen 31 Jul '07

31 Jul '07

Hello list, I have been "out of circulation" for a while and I have been reading the list backlog. I understand the official 10.3 translation rounds have not started yet. Will someone confirm this? I will be back in business in the beginning of August and hope this will not be too late to do the Norwegian 10.3 translations. Regards -- Olav --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Alleged translator names under SUSEgreeter
by Antonio Cardoso Martins 31 Jul '07

31 Jul '07

Hello dear translators, Under SUSEgreeter.nn.po, what is exactly supposed for us to translate or write under the following strings, the names of the translation team, or the exact translation of the strings? I ask this because i checked under some languages, and there are different interpretations. #. Put one translator per line, in the form of NAME <EMAIL>, YEAR1, YEAR2. #: greet.xml:0(None) msgid "translator-credits" #: _translatorinfo.cpp:1 msgid "" "_: NAME OF TRANSLATORS\n" "Your names" #: _translatorinfo.cpp:3 msgid "" "_: EMAIL OF TRANSLATORS\n" "Your emails" Best regards to all -- ----------------------------------------- Antonio Cardoso Martins digiplan.pt(a)gmail.com antonio.cmartins(a)siemens.com ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Call for Translations
by Andreas Jaeger 31 Jul '07

31 Jul '07

There have been several requests from community members on the mailing lists to join language teams for the languages Brazilian Portuguese, German, French, Italian, Japanese, Simplified Chinese, Spanish and Traditional Chinese. We have now decided to open up the translation process completely and not put any restrictions on it. Therefore I invite you to create language teams for those eight languages mentioned above, join one of the existing teams or start a new language team for a language we currently do not support. If you're interested, please mail on the opensuse-translation mailing list which team you like to create - or join! We currently have 55 languages - and I would like to thank everybody involved with these. It's impressive to see those translations, especially for those languages where I would not directly expect that many openSUSE users! Thanks a lot! Additionally I propose to have during the installation slide show a slide with the following content: openSUSE Localization The openSUSE project is a community project and many individuals are involved in bug fixing, packaging, testing, documentation and also localization. Localization for openSUSE specific software is done by different language teams and the localization portal is reachable under http://i18n.opensuse.org/ . Each translation teams should then add a new sentence to this parargraphwith e.g. in German "Die deutsche Übersetzung wurde durchgeführt von Karl Eichwalder und Andreas Jaeger " (translated back to English: "The German translation has been done by Karl Eichwalder and Andreas Jaeger" - assuming Karl and myself did the work). What do you think about this? Should we add this slide? Should we do it differently? We're a little bit late with this announcement - sorry about that. We will try to stretch every deadline to get localized packages into 10.3 and especially Karl Eichwalder and Stephan Kulow will help you to move this forward! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-translation] Availability per italian translations
by Leonardo Miliani 31 Jul '07

31 Jul '07

Hi. Mi name is Leonardo Miliani and I would join the italian translating team. What do I have to do? -- Ciao. Leo. Web: www.leonardomiliani.com E-mail: leonardo(a)leonardomiliani.com Scegli software opensource - Choose opensource software --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Romanian translation team
by daiana heinrich 31 Jul '07

31 Jul '07

Hello all, I'm Daiana and I would like to join the Romanian translation team. I already had a short chat with Stanciu-Lixandru Alec. Regards, Daiana ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-translation] Call for Translations
by MurdocK 30 Jul '07

30 Jul '07

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[opensuse-translation] availability for translations
by Alessandro Ruoso 30 Jul '07

30 Jul '07

Hi I want to give my availability for the translations in Italian ___________________________________ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Thruth likes to join the Chinese Simplefied Translation Team
by Truth 30 Jul '07

30 Jul '07

Hi all, I'd like to join the Chinese Simplefied Translation Team. Chinese Simplified translations for openSUSE are currently handled by Novell Language Service and the translation process is not open. Actually I've been doing suse related tanslation for some time. I've been building packages ,in the build service, with self-made Chinese translation patches patched. I am a beryl(now compiz fusion) translator and I fixed YaST Chinese typo mistakes (the package in in my repo). I wish I could participate futher in the translation process and help. Regards, Thruth --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Italian translations
by Alberto Passalacqua 30 Jul '07

30 Jul '07

Hello, I'm an Italian guy and I would like to give some help with the Italian translations. Who is part of the translation team? How can I join it? With kind regards, Alberto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] I like to join the Italian translation team
by Francesco Raffaele Pastore 29 Jul '07

29 Jul '07

Hi, I'm italian and I want to join the Italian translation team. Regards, Francesco. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] I want to join Traditional Chinese translation team
by chen swyear 28 Jul '07

28 Jul '07

Hi I'm swyear, I think I can do some help about Traditional Chinese translation I had translated smart ( http://labix.org/smart ) into Traditional Chinese and I am now working for Traditional Chinese wiki ( http://zh_tw.opensuse.org Not public announced yet!) Best Regards swyear --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-translation] OpenSUSE 10.3 - 1st translation round starts
by aliks-os 27 Jul '07

27 Jul '07

Well, my opinion that variant b) is more acceptable for us, reason: >some words that are translated > differently in different contexts will look silly >(e.g. "volume" can refer > to sound or disk-related stuff requiring very different >translation). Other ideas: First, In the memory a lot of such situation as above (in any case were a lot of), during last period, these messages were fixed in the trunk. Sometime, during the merging from the memory, we had in the trunk strings, which marked as good but really with the mistakes. Next, at the current time, we have trunk fully (98%) corrected. We do this job since suse 10.0, each next version (I mean translation) more better. And, if we will following variant c), we may damage our work in the trunk. At the past (mostly during translation version 10.2), I often have the following situation: grand update of trunk from translators side, a lot of strings corrected. Next round come or next merging occurs in the trunk, we have new strings for translating, and all old strings which were corrected and updated in trunk still present here as untouched (I mean as not corrected)!!! Several times I have shock. Karl do for me rollback. So, before merging, memory was not updated from trunk??? During the current round (version 10.3) situation more better, above situation never occur (and hope never will). So, according above mentioned, I suggest the following: 1. Clean up current memory 2. Build new memory on base of the current trunk 3. New strings put in the trunk from memory marked only as fuzzy 4. The very new string, which are comes from developers, search in the memory, a) if the result of searching by words more than 80%, mark as fuzzy; b) if less not take translation from memory at all; c) never mark as translated. 5. Simultaneously, put new messages in the trunk for translation, with the marks fuzzy or not translated, see item 4; 6. More often update memory from the trunk, as trunk is continuously updated by translators. 7. And last. I’d like ask developers, I mean programmers, put more comments for translating of the strings. Sometimes, very difficult to define true meaning of the string. Kindly regards Aleksey Osipov 26.07.07, 16:00, Nikolay Derkach <nderkach(a)gmail.com>: > В сообщении от Thursday 26 July 2007 15:41:16 Martin Schlander написал(а): > > > I completely agree with you that that's dangerous and I sure I can > > > improve the process for > 10.3. > > > > It's a difficult situation.. > > > > a) not using memory: > > Means a lot of extra work. > > > > b) marking all memory stuff fuzzy > > Means quite some extra work - apart from not being an option for 10.3 > > > > c) using the memory unconditionally > > Means poor quality by reproducing errors of the past, not complying with > > current translation team "standards", and some words that are translated > > differently in different contexts will look silly (e.g. "volume" can refer > > to sound or disk-related stuff requiring very different translation). This > > either means a lot less work and acceptance of poor quality. Or it means > > you have to proofread everything after the last merge for every release, > > which would mean an extreme amount of work, with short time to do it. > > > > I think we (read: you guys) should strive for giving teams an option > > between b) and c) in the future. > > > > Apart from pl answering here to the list, I've had discussions with fi and > > ru on IRC - they seem to be slightly worried about the issue, but > > nevertheless it seems they prefer c) > > > > > I'd propose to merge the files on your own, ignoring the memories. > > > > We've already done a lot of work since the merge, I don't want to mess with > > it. Primarily worried about the future. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org > I personally vore for variant b), maybe you have missunderstood me. > Proof reading additional fuzzy lines is not much work but leads to better > quallity. > Since memory strings are mostly correct this won't cause much of work. > I'm not able to decide for our team, have to ask our coordinator. -- Яндекс.Фотки - заливай свои, любуйся чужими! http://fotki.yandex.ru/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Want to join the Norwegian language team
by Rune Nordbøe Skillingstad 25 Jul '07

25 Jul '07

Hello, my name is Rune Nordbøe Skillingstad, and have started to translate some of the missing parts of the Norwegian language. I've had a dialog with Olav Pettershaugen and agreed on a roadmap to get the Norwegian translation ready to 10.3. To coordinate this, I would like to have my SVN account enabled. I have a Novell account (username runesk) and have accessed my "user page" (http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/User:Runesk) Cheers, Rune Nordbøe Skillingstad --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Re: [Suse-i18n-dev] Updating translation files (.po)
by Karl Eichwalder 20 Jul '07

20 Jul '07

Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: >> web-updater.pot: "POT-Creation-Date: 2006-02-10 11:40+0100\n" > > Remove web-updater! > >> kpowersave.pot: "POT-Creation-Date: 2006-03-14 00:16+0100\n" >> kinternet.pot: "POT-Creation-Date: 2006-06-08 12:58+0200\n" >> kfiledialog.pot: "POT-Creation-Date: 2006-09-14 17:19+0200\n" >> suseplugger.pot: "POT-Creation-Date: 2006-09-14 17:19+0200\n" > > I think suseplugger is obsolete - remove it. Thanks for the info! I'm going to remove the files soon. >> RELEASE-NOTES.pot: "POT-Creation-Date: 2006-12-08 15:41+0100\n" > > Karl, release notes is your job ;-) Release notes are special -- I could have sworn having replaced the file already... ;-( Ignore RELEASE-NOTES for the moment. The new file is mostly empty, and we will start with it later (2nd translation round). -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] update-desktop-files problem
by Martin Schlander 17 Jul '07

17 Jul '07

I'm wondering what has happened to our update-desktop-files.da.po I guess some merging/scripting has gone horribly wrong. It says last revision 2005-08-16 by Martin Møller and all the work we did on it for 10.2 is lost... which also explains why it looks so horrible in 10.3a5. Would it be fixable somehow? It's of course a huge file and we're talking many hours of work. I have here locally a backup of the last known good version of it that I made on april 23 before the Novell-translations were merged. In general can we expect translations to not be broken when they undergo this treatment? Many files in lcn have strange revision dates and translators - like "Novell Language, 2002". Is it safe to assume that our previous translations are intact in such files, so we can focus on "untranslated" and "fuzzy" or do we need to proofread the entire files to be safe? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Stat-page issues
by Martin Schlander 16 Jul '07

16 Jul '07

There's a problem with the stats page. It seems to believe that the update-desktop-files.po has a syntax error - this is the same for all languages (or at least the 3-4 languages that I checked) However kbabel verifies the syntax as correct. Therefore I assume it's just a stat-page problem, and that there's actually nothing wrong with the file. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-translation] OpenSUSE 10.3?
by Martin Schlander 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Den Wednesday 11 July 2007 13:38:22 skrev du: > And the general procedure is to translate the lcn an yast folders, commit > and be happy. No changes there, right? Yup. Apparently if you translate enough of the packages descriptions they'll get included. And there are now different branches in svn.. 10.2, SLED SP1-stuff and trunk.. remember to use trunk. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] [Martin Møller] Typos in kerberos-server
by Karl Eichwalder 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Thanks for feedback. We highly appreciate your reports on English wording and spelling issues! To make sure nothing will get lost, I recommend to enter these issues into the bugzilla (with cc to ke(a)novell.com) Micheal, please fix the typos. -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg)

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[opensuse-translation] Problem with svn!
by Khoem Sokhem 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Hi List, I have problem with svn up, svn commit to suse server. when I use svn up, it appear the error message as below: all@server:/home/suse/yast/km> svn up svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/suse-i18n/trunk/yast/km' svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/suse-i18n/trunk/yast/km': Could not resolve hostname `forgesvn1.novell.com': Host not found (https://forgesvn1.novell.com) all@server:/home/suse/yast/km> I am not sure this is the server problem or my side problem? I hope hear from you soon! Thanks, Sokhem --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] 10.3: Status of the translation files (proofreading)
by Karl Eichwalder 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Just to keep you posted: Today new yast POT files got checked in and we are going to start the internal proofreading. I will also merge this new files with your translation files and, if wanted, you can do some preliminary 10.3 translations. But take into account that POT files are still entitled to be changed considerably. If you do not want to deal with several rounds of eliminating fuzzy translations, wait until the translation rounds start officially. Nice weekend, Karl -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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