October 2007 - openSUSE Translation - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-translation] SVN Branches in suse-i18n
by Karl Eichwalder 30 Jun '08

30 Jun '08

We are in the process creating branches: https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/suse-i18n/branches/SLE10SP1 For SLE10 SP1 https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/suse-i18n/branches/openSUSE-10_2-Branch For openSUSE 10.2 Thus far, none of these branches is open for check-ins. If you want to fix anything 10.2 related, just use the trunk as during the last months. In case of serious ("critical") issues of which you want to see an online update, create a bugzilla entry as well. Most of the translation iusses are by definition not "critical", so do not be disappointed if we cannot release on official update. More information on the branches later. -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH GPG: 1024D/06EB882E B2A3 AF2F CFC8 40B1 67EA 475A 5903 A21B 06EB 882E --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] New ML: opensuse-translation-de
by Karl Eichwalder 25 Nov '07

25 Nov '07

We have a new mailing list, dedicated for discussing German translations of openSUSE software strings: opensuse-translation-de --Find more info wiki overview page: http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate/Mailinglists Note, other localization lists are already available since quite some time--just check the wiki page. We can provide more such lists if necessary. Cheers, Karl -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Translation Update for SLE10 SP1 and Forthcoming openSUSE 10.3
by Karl Eichwalder 23 Nov '07

23 Nov '07

We (Novell Globalization Services [Dublin]) are working on translation updates and several new translations for SLE10 SP1. We will submit these translations to the SLE10SP1 branch of the forge repository at https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/suse-i18n . For SP1, we cannot accept additional translations done but community members. So I'd like to ask you not to touch the SLE10SP1. When the SP1 translations are done, we want to promote them to the trunk of the SVN and thus they will become available for openSUSE 10.3. This will be a strong push for languages such as Arabian, Catalan, some Indian and South African languages. This also mean that you should save your time now to avoid work duplication. You don't want to translate files such as zypper, rug, or zmd twice. Thus far it is undecided, whether we should just add the new translations the trunk or whether we also want to override existing translations with those done in the SLE10SP1 branch. Here is the preliminary SLE10SP1 language list: de German en_?? English es Spanish fr French it Italian ja Japanese pt_BR Portuguese (Brazil) zh_CN Chinese (Simplified) zh_TW Chinese (Traditional) cs Czech da Danish fi Finnish hu Hungarian nb Norwegian nl Dutch pl Polish ru Russian sv Swedish af Afrikaans ar Arabic bn Bengali ca Catalan gu Gujarati hi Hindi mr Marathi ta Tamil xh Xhosa zu Zulu -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH GPG: 1024D/06EB882E B2A3 AF2F CFC8 40B1 67EA 475A 5903 A21B 06EB 882E --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Re: [opensuse-translation-es] Welcome
by Carlos E. R. 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El 2007-10-30 a las 12:06 +0100, Camaleón escribió: > Howdy folks, > > Welcome to opensuse-translation-es. This list is for discussing > translation in spanish language on matters of the openSUSE distribution. Véola :-) - -- Saludos Carlos E.R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHJzSitTMYHG2NR9URApxrAJkBy1xgzgATsp09ny06XTcqNK5+EACdFwUV OZCCwmOj8OFvDor8wy3OKaE= =HjsA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[opensuse-translation] ML: opensuse-translation-ru
by Nikolay Derkach 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

Hi, В сообщении от Tuesday 02 October 2007 17:14:52 Karl Eichwalder написал(а): > Note, other localization lists are already available since quite some > time--just check the wiki page. We can provide more such lists if > necessary. Yes, please create opensuse-translation-ru mailing list. We need such a list for discussion of Russian translations, as well as for collaboration between YaST+LCN translators and openSUSE Russian Translation Team. -- Regards, Nikolay Derkach --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Call for translators: Geany
by Frank Lanitz 28 Oct '07

28 Oct '07

Hi list, since Geany is getting more and more popular among users and developers I would like to ask whether there is anybody who likes to support translating Geany. We already got a nice number of translations but there are still a lot of languages missing. Also some of the current translations got outdated and need some updates. If you would like to help, please have a look at http://geany.uvena.de/i18n and check out whether you want to help translating the project. You might like to contact me, so we can arrange and coordinate the tasks. Hope to hear from you, Frank

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[opensuse-translation] Fedora's Transifex for L10N
by Pascal Bleser 26 Oct '07

26 Oct '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Seems Fedora has a nifty web app for helping to manage/merge/have stats about localization (over po files and version control systems), "Transifex". http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=94625 https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/transifex/ Sounds quite interesting, including to seek collaboration with Fedora if it's really adding value for us and our apps. Anyone who'd like to have a shot at it ? Do we have a lot of .po files in VCS repos ? (svn/cvs) cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser(a)skynet.be> <guru(a)unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHImmEr3NMWliFcXcRAr73AJ4iuQ/rxr2i0TFDli4uURi8BHwJpACgu+TK /kaRvFCmUWZ23qXTFBOlCXU= =bTf5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-translation] Commit permissions? (fwd)
by Carlos E. R. 25 Oct '07

25 Oct '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-10-22 at 13:32 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:32:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Carlos E. R. <> To: Karl Eichwalder <> Cc: Arturo Aguilar <> Subject: Commit permissions? Hi: I'd like to request commit permission to the SVN Language Name: Spanish; My Full Name: Carlos E. Robinson; My Novell login: robin_listas; My Contact Mail: See "from" above. - -- Saludos Carlos E.R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHH8GZtTMYHG2NR9URAhjZAJ9Y9ndszUiwBUMu7lpM+A0NluouAACcDKYv dX0jqwWcs98QozEV8rNEdC0= =LMjc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-translation+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-translation] Error messages translation
by Ladislav Michnovič 24 Oct '07

24 Oct '07

2007/10/24, Stanciu-Lixandru Alec <stanciulixandru(a)gmail.com>: > On Wednesday 24 October 2007 12:57:49 you wrote: > > Can you give an explaining example, please? > > I have no idea how is the translation loosing meaning in your language. > > And I don't understand Romanian. > > Regards Ladislav > Let me try. NOTE: I will try to explain in square brackets the meaning of the > romanian words > > File: /trunk/lcn/ro/po/apparmor-parser.ro > > 1. Original string (msgid): PANIC bad increment buffer %p pos %p ext %p > size %d res %p\n > Translated string (msgstr): PANICĂ [as in fear in case of emergency] creştere > [as in increase, no bad meaning here] greşită [best meaning for bad in this > case] tampon [as in a means or device used as a cushion against the shock of > fluctuations. The word has a meaning in IT in the phrase 'memory buffer' but > not as a standalone 'buffer'] > > 2. Original string (msgid): Conflict 'a' and 'w' perms are mutually exclusive. > Translated string (msgstr): Conflict [the same meaning as in English] 'a' > şi 'w' permanente [here 'permanente' is a noun meaning something which has > stability, permanence and blows off the meaning of the translation in > Romanian] se exclud reciproc. > > There are many more phrases/words which can loose the meaning when translated > in Romanian (I'm speaking only of error messages). > If you take into consideration that: > - there are no standards/rules in my country regarding the translation of IT > words/phrases (ex: for the mouse (pointing device) we > have 'maus' / 'şoricel' / 'mouse') > - most of the IT people have a good command of English language (even if there > is only the understanding part of it :D) > - those who use the computer for the daily use (e-mail, web browsing, gaming, > multimedia, office productivity) are trained the way monkeys are trained (you > want to do this then click here then here and then here and you have saved > your file, without of the slightest explanation of the meaning of their > actions) > - MS WIndows translation is something we have a good laugh about due to the > funny and misleading meaning > - we are trying (by translating) to make the openSUSE a friendly and usefull > OS for the Romanian people > then what shall we do? Leave the error messages as they are OR translate what > has meaning and leave the rest of them in English thus resulting in Romglish > (you know, like Spanglish :D) OR translate the way MS did and give people > another good laugh? > My vote is 65% for leaving the error messages in English and 35% for the > Romglish version. > What do you think? The best way how to translate strings is to use a sentence which will have the same meaning for the people regardless how you translate it. I sometimes totally change the sentence and use a longer description for some IT words which have no equivalent in Slovak. Then it is understandable for non IT people who even don't understand English. They start to feel comfortable if they don't see foreign words, even if they don't understand everything because they lack a knowledge e.g. what is memory controller. But they think it speaks their language to them. And that's the point I think. Well, it has one side effect. People who uses often English version of the software and suddenly switch to native language just wonders how the words are translated. They aren't familiar with it. This need only time. We don't have such problems like mouse can be translated three ways. Some funny mistakes appears sometimes. For example: somebody translated RSS feeder like "RSS krmítko" [feeder, but only for animals]. To preserve the meaning the better translation we use is "čítačka RSS kanálov" [the reader of RSS channel] . The meaning is similar but not the same. I would advice you to make a wiki web page where anybody could write a Romanian translation of IT English words to unite which words would be used for. Involve as many (not only IT) people in your country as you can. BTW. the biggest problem for us is that some English words has more meanings so it should be translated differently in one case than in other. The result is sometimes you see a nonsense word in an application. > Yours, > Alec Regards Ladislav.

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[opensuse-translation] where is Punjabi Release-notes 10.3
by Jaap oter Tepo 24 Oct '07

24 Oct '07

hi Team, RELEASE-NOTES is 100% (http://i18n.opensuse.org/stats/trunk/pa/lcn/index.php) for Punjabi, so where can I find those (HTML) version? -- JoT ********************************* Punjabi Open Source Team http://www.satluj.org ਚੜ੍ਹਦੀ ਕਲਾ ਸਰਬੱਤ ਦਾ ਭਲਾ *********************************

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