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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki Google Custom Search
by Matthew Ehle 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

Hello, As Carlos pointed out, I had accidentally hijacked an earlier thread, so I am starting this new one up. Here is the original message: I have implemented Google Custom Search on enstage.opensuse.org, and I am personally very happy with the results. To try it out, you can visit http://enstage.opensuse.org/Portal:GoogleSearch and try searching on anything you want. It is about a thousand times better than what we have, and with the better relevance ranking, namespace searching is no longer an issue. While the current search is advertisement supported, I am nearly positive that we can get ad support removed. It seems that Google is pretty willing to do this for non-profits. What does everyone think? If you don't have access to the staging site, I will be more than happy to send you a screen shot of the search page. If everyone is on board, I will ask Thomas to edit the theme to make it the default search, and we'll send it live. Thanks, Matt By the way, you need access to the staging site to see this (i.e. you need to be on the Novell network). I can provide screen shots if requested.

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[opensuse-wiki] Redundant namespaces, in particular openSUSE:
by Brandon Philips 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

Hello All and Everyone- Today, I wish to talk about redundancy. In particular things that add no new information and are a simple rearrangement of the understood data. In other words: repetitiveness for no-gain at all. Problem ------- I was trying to point a community member at the Kernel Git page today so they could get involved. But I was baffled to find it gone. Searching a bit I ended up finding it at this URL: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Kernel_git Two openSUSE's in one URL, what a deal! Without that openSUSE: namespace I might have thought I was going to grab the Ubuntu Kernel Git... As we are breaking URLs all over with this new wiki anyways can we take a moment and consider the URL monsters we are creating here? Just look at it once again: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Kernel_git There has got to be something better, lets find a solution. :) Solution -------- Lets look at the mission statement of the openSUSE: namespace[1]: "And the openSUSE community's openSUSE: namespace to collaboratively write on documentation for their projects and teams." Possible alternatives: 0. No namespace at all, the openSUSE community exists at openSUSE.org! We have an entire domain to call our own! Why do we need a namespace? 1. devel: ? Oh, but these teams are not necessarily developers 2. teams: ? Erm, no because then it would be teams:Kernel_git which makes no sense 3. community: ? Maybe, but community:Java packaging cookbook looks strange 4. project: ? This is my second choice as nearly all of the links on http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Project are to the openSUSE: namespace... 1-4 have their problems but at least they are not redundant. Lets discuss what problem this openSUSE: namespace is trying to solve and how we can make sane looking URLs on our new wiki. And lets do it fast so we can avoid breaking URLs again. Cheers, Brandon [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki/Concept -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Blocking users
by Rajko M. 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Do we have solved issue with blocking IP when user name is blocked? -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Download help on the download page
by Thomas Schmidt 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

On 15.07.2010 12:21, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > On 2010-07-15 12:12:56 +0200, Thomas Schmidt wrote: >> On 14.07.2010 23:25, pistazienfresser wrote: >>> On 14/07/10 22:20, Atri Bhattacharya wrote: >>>> On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 01:38 +0530, Atri Bhattacharya wrote: >>>>> Hi! >>>>> In the main page >>>>> http://software.opensuse.org/112/en >>>>> none of the links work, they have to be modified to point to the correct >>>>> location. >>>>> >>>> >>>> To follow up, there is a link to >>>> http://en.opensuse.org/BitTorrent_and_openSUSE >>>> in the write-up which appears when you click on the little blue "?" just >>>> beside the string "Download Method" for every type of download media, >>>> i.e. for the 4.7GB DVD, Live images and others. This too points to an >>>> empty page, and I have no idea where this should point to either, bcoz >>>> there seems to be no page close to this. >>>> >>>> >>> Hello Atri, hello list, hello "admin", >>> as there was a very little link with "Feedback" and admin(a)opensuse.org >>> behind it on that page "http://software.opensuse.org/112/en" I added >>> this address to the TO section above. >>> >>> And as "software" is none of the 34 namespaces I see on >>> http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:Search the administrators of the wiki >>> may not the only ones with the ability to fix it. >>> >>> But I think temporally that could be fixed also in the wiki if someone >>> knows where the meant articles are now and creates or recreates a >>> redirect to the meant page/article on the page the link on >>> "http://software.opensuse.org/112/en" or tomorrow >>> "http://software.opensuse.org/113/en" etc. points to... >> >> I removed the link to bittorrent, as the article is not yet transferred and marked as incomplete >> (http://old-en.opensuse.org/BitTorrent_and_openSUSE). >> The other link is fixed: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Metalink >> >> Changing strings short before the release has the downside we will have those strings >> in english only for all users until the translations catched up. > > uhm ... we want to push bittorrent usage for this release. > could you please work on migrating this? Ok, I copied it to SDB:BitTorrent_and_openSUSE. Can someone with bittorrent expertise help reviewing this article? Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tschmidt [at] suse.de) SUSE Linux Products GmbH :: Research & Development :: Tools "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Bento Login Form Problems
by Matthew Ehle 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Hello, There are two major problems with the bento theme login which will need to be fixed. Until they are, I am recommending that everyone avoid using the javascript login form and instead use the standard login page that is used by the legacy wiki. Issue 1: The login form sends information in plain text over plain HTTP. I have actually fixed this on stage, but perhaps others would like to review it to make sure that passwords aren't being sent in clear text anymore. Assuming that is the case, it can go live when I run the next update. So please try this out in stage (if you are able) and get back to me. If one of you have WireShark installed, that would be perfect. Issue 2: As far as I can tell, this login form is the reason behind Bug 619735. After a lot of testing and troubleshooting in stage, this is the most likely culprit so far. Basically, I can duplicate the problem easily when using the bento login form, but I cannot duplicate at all using the standard login page. It looks like the cookie is not set properly when using this login, although I can't see any apparent reason why that is. Strangely enough, submitting an edit does set the cookie, which is why only the first edit fails. Please test out the fix for the first issue, and see what might be causing the second. Until then, the best workaround is to use the standard login form. Thanks! Matt

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[opensuse-wiki] Main page protected now
by Henne Vogelsang 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Hey, only spammers edited the main page for a long time now. As the bot's seem to have no clue about Flaggedrevs i have protected the page for now. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] where is the knowledge gone
by Sven Burmeister 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Hello! The web and the KDE Portal refers to http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Developing/Guide for developing KDE on openSUSE, i.e. tries to attract developers to use openSUSE. Those links now point into emptiness. How come they were not transfered and the work that went into them thus disregarded? Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki-Spam
by Uwe der Linuxsusefan 31 Jul '10

31 Jul '10

Hi, wer immer von euch Online ist, sollte sich schnellstens die EN-Wiki Startseite anschauen. Das wurde wieder von Spam-Kram reingesetzt und der darin befindliche Inhalt gelöscht. Ich schmeiß den Spam Mist da raus, aber sperren müsst ihr diese, da ich im EN-Wiki nicht die Rechte habe wie im DE-Wiki. Ihr solltet diese Seiten sperren und nur für Admins zugänglich halten. Sorry das ich hier deutsch schreibe, aber englisch ist very BAD :) ---- who is always online you should look at the soon-EN wiki page. This was again reingesetzt spam stuff and deleted the contents therein. I'll throw the spam crap out there, but you have to block them because I was not in EN-wiki, the rights as in DE-Wiki. you should lock these pages and release only for admins. Sorry that I here write German, but english is very BAD:) ---- Grüße aus dem Schwabenland, Uwe der Linuxsusefan Die SuSE sei mit euch, wo immer ihr seid ..... ..:::openSUSE-Member:::.. .:linuxsusefan@opensuse.org:.

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[opensuse-wiki] Transfer DE-Wiki
by Uwe der Linuxsusefan 31 Jul '10

31 Jul '10

Hello Project Management, I would like to know why the German wiki page was not transferred to the English wiki as was previously announced? Somehow, no one has spoken on this subject and none of the active of the German Wiki said anything if the DE wiki is still there later, do not turn, or whatever? After all, we have spotted our items ready to keep the transfer date to be able to. Had to get an important information, since the links (Inter-wiki, etc) no longer work and into the empty run. It will keep asking users what if and how what happened there, the same is true for users to create or edit the articles. This condition may not remain so and should be corrected urgently. I know this have to do much, and all are busy. Yet it would be nice if one could follow in short sentences info so that we in "good old Germany" also know where we are ....:) Deutsche Fassung findet sich in der deutschsprachigen Wiki-Mailingliste (opensuse-wiki-de). Bitte eine Antwort der besseren Verständigung halber dort Posten! ---- Grüße aus dem Schwabenland, Uwe der Linuxsusefan Die SuSE sei mit euch, wo immer ihr seid ..... ..:::openSUSE-Member:::.. .:linuxsusefan@opensuse.org:.

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[opensuse-wiki] Search on the Wiki?
by C 30 Jul '10

30 Jul '10

I have seen a lot of mails flying by about the Wiki rework etc, but.. (I may have missed the discussion) has there been any plans or thought put into fixing the poor default search in MediaWiki? There was a discussion about this on the Project list a few days ago, and it brought up a very good point. The default search within MediaWiki is very poor to say the least. There are a couple of extensions for MediaWiki available that vastly improve the returned results, especially this one: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MWSearch combined with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lucene-search Are there any plans to implement this extension, or do anything to improve the search results? C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Good/cool links never change
by Marcus Rueckert 30 Jul '10

30 Jul '10

hi, mediawiki is pretty flexible when it comes to managing links and renaming links. it adds a nice redirect page which makes sure that external links keep working. in the current state the new opensuse wiki is horrible. almost all external opensuse documentation (be it on build.o.o, in osc or in blog entries) is trash now, as they point to dead links. So I would like to ask ... can we please add a policy that every migrated page has to have the redirect page for its old name? And on top of that add the redirects for all pages that are already migrated? the current situation is annoying and leaving a bad impression for the project. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Fwd: Activity involving watched category "Category:Remote Access"
by Tim Mohlmann 30 Jul '10

30 Jul '10

Since when I get informed editing my own pages?? :P Happened only once (for now), so no panic (yet) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: WikiAdmin <webmaster(a)novell.com> Date: 2010/7/27 Subject: Activity involving watched category "Category:Remote Access" To: Muhlemmer <muhlemmer(a)gmail.com> Dear Muhlemmer, The openSUSE page Category:Remote Access has been changed on 16:49, 27 July 2010 by Muhlemmer, see http://en.opensuse.org/Category:Remote_Access for the current version. Category:OpenSSH (http://en.opensuse.org/Category:OpenSSH) has been added to Category:Remote Access (http://en.opensuse.org/Category:Remote_Access) Editor's summary: Created page with '[[Category:Remote Access]]' Contact the editor: wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/User:Muhlemmer There will be no other notifications in case of further changes unless you visit this page. You could also reset the notification flags for all your watched pages on your watchlist. Your friendly openSUSE notification system -- To change your watchlist settings, visit http://en.opensuse.org/Special:Watchlist/edit Feedback and further assistance: http://en.opensuse.org/Help:Contents -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] studio links
by jdd 29 Jul '10

29 Jul '10

Hello, I just notice that all studio *help* links go to the old wiki. I don't know how this can be fixed http://susestudio.com/home jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Spammer and IP blocked
by Rémy Marquis 25 Jul '10

25 Jul '10

(Forwarding my message from yesterday that wasn't publicly available - my mistake). Hi there, Please note I removed the block on the spammer I put this morning, as some people seem to be unable to use some features (image uploading and import/export pages). For some reason, a wide range of IP was blocked at the same time as the one belonging to the spammer. Not sure if this is a wiki bug, or a wiki admin bug :) We might re-add the block later if necessary. I also alerted Frank Sundermeyer about this issue. Regards, R. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Maps implementation
by Tim Mohlmann 24 Jul '10

24 Jul '10

Henne, On irc you requested me to implement the maps extension on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Map. What I did: I edit and checked the list on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Map/Coordinates to make it usable for the extension. (removing spaces, and other bad things.) Enforced a <noinclude> for the top part off the article. Edit Template:map_user to meet the extension's syntax as stated on http://mapping.referata.com/wiki/Help:Marker_data (#display_points:Address1~Title1~Label1~Icon1; address2~Title2~Label2~Icon2) etc. Address can be an existing address (eg Berlin, Germany) or decimal coördinates, seperated by comma. The latter is used in the list. So the template now looks like this: {{{1}}}, {{{2}}}~{{{3}}}~{{{4}}}, {{{5}}}; (including space behind ";") for: Code: {{Map user|<Latitude>|<Longitude>|<Label>|<Description>|<URL>}} So next step was, since I enforced <noinclude> in the non-list part of http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Map/Coordinates, to remove the old map from http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Map and add the line: {{#display_points:{{openSUSE:Map/Coordinates}}}}. This takes the complete list, generated by above template, in a correct systax. However, when I push preview (thank god I didn't safe) I get a fatal server error (500) from novell. Is it just to much to handle? Or am I missing something. I don't know how this kicks in on server recources, there are 314 user's locations to be processed on the fly, each having 3 syntax for the actual #display_points command. This means about 950 options for 1 command. Or I'm doing something wrong here, or it's just not capable of doing the job. Greeting, Tim (Muhlemmer) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Deletion policy
by Rajko M. 24 Jul '10

24 Jul '10

Instead of immediate deletion of articles that don't violate basic Terms of site, please set {{Delete|<explanation>}} on the page. Give a chance contributors to speak up. I just caught myself deleting articles that are not real violation, but merely misunderstanding of how we work now. My deletion was just a bit softer then other I've seen recently as I left some remark on user talk pages, but still rushed and not necessary as article can be found later in category: http://en.opensuse.org/Category:Pages_to_delete and then deleted. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki URLs (was: Re: [opensuse-marketing] Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) and drivers choice)
by Christian Boltz 24 Jul '10

24 Jul '10

Hello, (answers to opensuse-wiki please) on Donnerstag, 22. Juli 2010, Rajko M. wrote: >On Tuesday 20 July 2010 03:30:19 Rémy Marquis wrote: >> http://wiki.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_graphics_cards > > Time to change URL to: > http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_graphics_cards The "problem" is that wiki.o.o also works ;-)) Maybe it's time to add a server-side redirect. wiki.o.o should be made a separate vHost that consists only of one line of Apache configuration (and no content): RedirectPermanent / http://en.opensuse.org/ This has the advantage that all URLs that are pasted from the location bar will have en.o.o instead of wiki.o.o. As a bonus, this will "update" search engines to only list en.o.o (instead of giving us a penalty because of duplicate content in wiki.o.o and en.o.o ;-) Final note: IMHO we can't ever drop wiki.o.o (there are too many links to it out there), but we can at least make clear that en.o.o is the correct place/URL. Regards, Christian Boltz -- > Can I get some more info from the machine? 'dmesg', 'cat > /proc/bus/input/devices', etc ... Sorry, there's no command calles "etc" on my machine... ;-) [Rasmus Plewe on https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=176022] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Orphaned Talk-Page/Discussion-Page
by pistazienfresser (see profile) 23 Jul '10

23 Jul '10

http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=SDB_Talk:Sysreqs&action=history Hello List, hello admins, - [[SDB_Talk:Sysreqs]] exists: "http://en.opensuse.org/sysreqs" is printed on our DVD Media." - [[SDB:Sysreqs]] exits not To prevent that in the future: - Maybe small remarks to Redirect pages could be made directly on that pages? No one will see them unless he wants to take a look directly on the redirect-page: for example I have edited: http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Sysreqs&redirect=no if someone who wants to delete a redirect would look at the source code first. - Are the discussion pages not moved automatically with the article pages? Greetings pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Bugzilla is missing in the wiki?
by Carlos E. R. 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-07-17 22:22, Tim Mohlmann wrote: >> But it happens that in the forums we are suggesting to people that already have found a bug to >> report it in bugzilla right away... so this people will put "bugzilla" in the search box and not >> find it. >> >> Which is pistazienfresser point, I understand. >> > > Did you already try it just before sending the Message? ;) I did try before sending my first message, but not the second one. > Try to type Bugzilla in search, and you'll see it's fixed. Thanks to > Rajko that is. So it is. He didn't say anything. Thanks, Rajko :-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxCF58ACgkQU92UU+smfQUzfACeJECZ2Dz1P18rnZSwEqxC8oKu 7owAn3aSmOsBU3o1g25ighf5aWYoMnV8 =GDN5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Buy openSUSE link on software.o.o ?
by Michael Loeffler 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

Moin, what about adding the retail box to http://software.opensuse.org/113/en ? [http://en.opensuse.org/Buy_openSUSE] Imo it would be the right place to inform people about the retail box and as far as I remember we had this with former versions. Best Michael -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[Fwd: Re: [opensuse-wiki] Bugzilla is missing in the wiki?]
by DenverD 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

-------- Original Message -------- From: - Wed Jul 21 10:53:30 2010 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Message-ID: <4C46B588.9020401(a)texan.dk> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:53:28 +0200 From: DenverD <DenverD(a)texan.dk> Reply-To: DenverD(a)texan.dk Organization: Yellow Rose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Ehle <mehle(a)novell.com> Subject: Re: [opensuse-wiki] Bugzilla is missing in the wiki? References: <4C4404D302000044000808A6(a)sinclair.provo.novell.com> In-Reply-To: <4C4404D302000044000808A6(a)sinclair.provo.novell.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matthew Ehle wrote: > There is another thread from a few days ago with the subject > "Search on the Wiki?". On this thread, I have tried opening a > discussion about implementing a solution for this problem. So far, > I have heard complaints all over the list about the default wiki > search, but I have not seen any discussion on the thread that is > proposing a solution. > > For those of you who don't like the current search, please start > having some discussion about what can be done about it. We have a > couple of options, but for me to take the amount of time needed to > explore, recommend, and implement something, Novell will need to > sign off on it. I'm going to try to grease the wheels (I also > don't care for the default search), but it would also be good to > show that it is more than just me who is interested in a particular > solution. So please do more than complain and contribute to the > discussion about getting a solution :P potential solution: i go to sites all over the web with a search blank which hooks directly to Google and automatically searches THAT site...seems pretty simple to me.. i've now recommended that potential solution several times without hearing why it was rejected (or even considered).. DenverD -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] New template
by Tim Mohlmann 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

Henne and the rest of the gang, This is what I meant on IRC earlier today. I couldn't stop working on it, so I completed it. I created a template: http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Screenshot_step You need to reed the Doc to understand it. Basicly it's a table line, without the table, allowing to create more fancy screenshot pages, without the screenshots filling the whole page. For each step/instruction this template can be inserted. It makes the page more attractive for the eye and easier to read. It is not mandatory to define a image for each step, when none is specified a nice blank area is presented. The images are clickable and direct to the actual image, so not to the File:page. I implemented the Template on http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_CD_installation_for_11.3 Compare it with http://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Live_CD_installation_for_11.1 and tell me which one you like the most ;) If you guys like this style for screenshot pages, maybe we can create a boilerplate using this template. The page itself (http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_CD_installation_for_11.3) still needs some attention: I don't have screenshots for step 6 and 7, my computer crashed two times in attempts to get screenshots in this stage. In the bottom there's a chapter ==Note on installation to large partitions== which is kinda fuzzie, so it needs attention. My eyes are tired now and I'm going to bed! Hope you enjoy it, Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Vandalism and new users
by pistazienfresser 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

-------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:34:52 +0200 > Von: Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)novell.com> > An: pistazienfresser <pistazienfresser(a)gmx.de> > CC: "Rajko M." <rmatov101(a)charter.net>, Thomas Schmidt <tom(a)opensuse.org>, Henne Vogelsang <hvogel(a)opensuse.org>, javier(a)opensuse.org, m.moeller(a)opensuse.org, Tim Mohlmann <muhlemmer(a)gmail.com>, petr.uzel(a)suse.cz, spyhawk(a)opensuse.org, "Rémy Marquis" <remy.marquis(a)gmail.com>, Shayon Mukherjee <sj(a)opensuse.org>, MJPSeidler(a)gmail.com, Martin Seidler <Martin.Seidler(a)web.de> > Betreff: Re: [opensuse-wiki] Vandalism and new users > On Tuesday 20 July 2010 13:05:26 pistazienfresser wrote: > > > http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=544&diff=17698&old… > > http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=17351 > > > > Hello Andreas, Rajko, Thomas/Tom, Hendrik/Henne, Javier, Marcus, Tim, > > Petr, Rémy, Shayon and all other wiki-admins, > > > > is there any plan to secure the group of users/to limit the creation of > > new users and of dealing with vandalism in general? > > > > I think it is possible to do a lot less obvious and more dangerous > > spamming/malicious things than the examples above. > > > > Maybe next think will be an external link to a malware containing page > > and maybe next time an editor/admin/... will not look at the content of > > a link/will not control the link before marking as > > 'patrolled [corr.] > >'/'sighted'/'quality'. > > Compare: > > > http://forums.opensuse.org/english/community/opensuse-wiki-discussions/4412… > > > > I do not want that on a list (that will be published) - not in all cases > > I rate the openness of bug reports so hight ;-). It was only my opinion. > > I cannot speak about the best overall plan for the wiki but let me just > state > that Iwecan ask our IS&T guys to block the accounts used in case of such > vandalisms - Henne, I can give you details on what to do to get it done, A page for normal users on that or where and how to deal with vandalism may be fine? > > Btw. shouldn't we write protect the "Main Page"? I think it is 'protected' with 'quality maintenance' in the way that no without higher permissions as a normal user (I think only admins and a group with members that are already admins, too) can make a edit that is shown as default by not users - I may sometimes a bit more cautious that others but even I think that is enough. > > Btw. I suggest to discuss this publically on the mailing list, > > Andreas Done, as there were no objections in the time since... Greetings pistazienfresser [...] -- GMX DSL: Internet-, Telefon- und Handy-Flat ab 19,99 EUR/mtl. Bis zu 150 EUR Startguthaben inklusive! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] some broken links out of the installation process
by Michael Loeffler 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

Moin, on behalf of gnooki I send this to the list: - en.opensuse.org/How_to_Participate ist written on installation process and is in the default bookmarks but not avialable -http://i18n.opensuse.org is also written on the installatione process I think that page is long time never touched - http://en.opensuse.org/Documentation is int the bookmarks but not available thanks Michael -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex

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[opensuse-wiki] Bugzilla is missing in the wiki?
by pistazienfresser 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

Hello wiki-list! A) The problem: *There seems to be no article about Bugzilla in the wiki* Maybe someone could help the consumer a bit if she/he needs help from the wiki with bugzilla about the issues: 1) a) to know what bugzilla is - the description and the definition (the wiki helping the consumer to get basic knowledge about a essential part of the openSUSE project - in my opinion the lowest level, according to the telos/meaning of namespaces, namespace definitons and namespace rules: so namespace 0=main or at least namespace 102 = portal) b) to know if someone else has the same problem (troubleshooting/support - I think that would be the most wanted but according to the words of the definition a article only on this issue would be member of namespace SDB) 2) a) wants the developers to tell about a problem that he has so that the developers can help him (article about to get help by by telling the helpers about the problem - namespace SDB) b) wants to help the developers to improve the distribution by telling them about a problem hat she/he had (article about helping the helpers by telling the helpers about the problem - namespace openSUSE) c) wants other users to tell about a workaround/solution he had figured out (the wiki helping to help the potential helper to tell the users/consumer about a possible resolution - namespace openSUSE) B) The plot/the detailed description: The last night I saw a edit according to a problem that prevents users to make live usb devices form DVD images and therefor to install a DVD image on a netbook (which by definition has no DVD or CD drive): This morning I wanted to help the users that had reported that problem in the forums (see: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/information-new-users/unreviewed-how-faq… http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/install-boot-login/442070-… and on the wiki by telling him how to escalate that a bit so that in the future the potential users of openSUSE on a netbook do not give up just because they are not able to install a DVD image on a netbook (what would be a bit funny after making the netbook support a highlight of the new version open 11.3 and the mobile things a strategic/tactic target of openSUSE - see the new openSUSE strategy). I thought it would be an easy thing to give them the according article about bugzilla in the wiki (a "what is" including the purpose of bugzilla and may be with a little "how to use" or at least a link to a article about the detailed "how to use"). I gave "bugzilla" in the normal internal search engine of the wiki - with me been logged in and so (differing to the default settings) with the search in namespace SDB = ns102 also enabled so I would get with will (as I understood) the openSUSE-wiki's seach engine make 0) would lead to an article with name/tile "bugzilla" if such would exist (and if not go to 1) and 2) which may be equal to http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=20&offset=0&ns0… ) 1) first get articles displayed with with "bugzilla" in the name/tile and 1) will be containing (without a namespace related) order 1.1) articles in the namespace main (ns0) 1.2) articles in the namespace SDB (ns100) 1.2) articles in the namespace Portal (ns102) 2) second get articles displayed with with "bugzilla" in the body/text and 2) will be containing (a namespace related) order 2.1) articles in the namespace main (ns0) 2.2) articles in the namespace SDB (ns100) 2.2) articles in the namespace Portal (ns102) According to the google-like output/display of the output of titles and text around the fitting words in the text of the search results the best fitting but last displayed article of 23 search results was: http://en.opensuse.org/BG-Submitting_Bug_Reports which sees to contain something about the topic 2) but cause of my not existing knowledge of/in that language (my guess: Bulgarian with Cyrillic letters - ISO 639-1 bg) I can understand only the links and the title of that article in English. C) The solution?: Greetings pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Re: WebYaST on the Wiki
by Henne Vogelsang 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

Hey Martin, On 19.07.2010 13:58, Martin Vidner wrote: > on Tuesday you said you were transferring the content to > http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:YaST . Do you plan to do more there > or can we take over now? By all means that was not meant to stop you from doing anything. I also said that you are welcome to help :) > Now when I look at > http://old-en.opensuse.org/Category:YaST and > http://old-en.opensuse.org/Category:WebYaST , > where should we put the content to ensure that it is not swept away > by a well-meant reorganization? Where it belongs. Where what belongs is documented in detail on http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki I also blogged about the changes several times on news.o.o http://news.opensuse.org/category/wiki-2/ > I guess that using the oS wiki for project development documents is > somewhat unusual, perhaps we should use some other place? Project development documents (and collaborative editing of them) is one of the three things we do with the openSUSE wiki! The only thing that changed from the old wiki in that respect is that it's organized and split from the the end-user product presentation and documentation. In short: Product presentation - Main namespace (all pages without prefix) Problem solutions - Support namespace (SDB: prefix) Project documents - Project namespace (openSUSE: prefix) So you just fill in all your pages into the right namespace and then you use the wiki tools Portal, Categories and Navbars to connect them again. If you need any help with that let us know :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Transferring images
by Matthew Ehle 19 Jul '10

19 Jul '10

Tim, I have added the Indexes directive to files.opensuse.org. You should be able to go in there and file the uploaded files for all the wikis. More importantly, you can now get all the files together with a single wget command if that will help you out in your quest. Something like the following should work: wget -r -np -nd http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/old-en/ This will download every file that has been uploaded to the old-en wiki and place it under a single directory. I believe all the filenames should be different, and I believe it is set to no-clobber by default, so this should be a safe command to run. You may also want to consider adding a little wait time between requests (with a -w), so that you don't destroy your bandwidth on this. Also, if the idea was for multiple people to be able to do something like this, I can even do something like create a temporary location on files.o.o with all the old-en files in one directory. -Matt >>> "Matthew Ehle" 07/15/10 12:30 AM >>> >Tim, > >How are you determining which files you want to get? If it makes life easier for you, I can just allow index view on >files.opensuse.org, which I should probably do anyway. With that, you can download all the files on old-en.opensuse.org >into one directory with a single wget command. That would probably make it a lot easier for you to pick and choose the >files you need. >I will look into getting one of these upload extensions installed as soon as I get a handle on this session error bug that is >affecting imports in the first place. Since it is possible, however unlikely, that one of the new extensions that we installed is >related to the problem, I am wary of installing more extensions until we at least know what is going on. > >In any case, I'm going to go ahead and set index views on files.o.o before I go to bed and forget all about it. > >-Matt >>> Christian Boltz 07/14/10 4:35 PM >>> >Hello, > >on Mittwoch, 14. Juli 2010, Tim Mohlmann wrote: >> I'm still try to work out a script for downloading multiple images at >> once, to overcome the sub-directory problem. Tried earlier tips form >> Rajko and Cristian, but it's not working as it should (wget is >> following a little bit to much). > >to get the directory structure: > >echo 'Image:foo.jpg' | sed 's/^Image://' | md5sum - | sed 's§^$.$$.$.*§\1/\1\2§' > > >Script to download several images (not really tested, but should work): > >grep ".." imglist.txt | while read file ; do >img=$(echo $file | sed 's/^Image://') >imgpath=$(echo "$img" | md5sum - | sed 's§^$.$$.$.*§\1/\1\2§') >wget "http://old-en.opensuse.org/images/$imgpath/$img" >done > >This will download all files listed in imglist.txt with wget. >imglist could look like that: > >Image:Foo.jpg >Bar.jpg <---- Image: is not required (will be cut away anyway) >Image:Baz.jpg > >I assume you know what you are writing into imglist.txt - the script >does not have a real protection against funny filenames etc. >Most important: you have to use _ instead of spaces (or add another sed ;-) > > >If you prefer to use commandline parameters instead of a file with the >filelist, replace the first line with >for file in "$@" ; do > > >Regards, > >Christian Boltz > >PS: In case you wonder: the "grep .." is a trick to skip empty lines ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Bugzilla is missing in the wiki?
by Matthew Ehle 19 Jul '10

19 Jul '10

There is another thread from a few days ago with the subject "Search on the Wiki?". On this thread, I have tried opening a discussion about implementing a solution for this problem. So far, I have heard complaints all over the list about the default wiki search, but I have not seen any discussion on the thread that is proposing a solution. For those of you who don't like the current search, please start having some discussion about what can be done about it. We have a couple of options, but for me to take the amount of time needed to explore, recommend, and implement something, Novell will need to sign off on it. I'm going to try to grease the wheels (I also don't care for the default search), but it would also be good to show that it is more than just me who is interested in a particular solution. So please do more than complain and contribute to the discussion about getting a solution :P >>> Juergen Weigert 07/19/10 5:33 AM >>> On Jul 17, 10 17:19:32 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: > On Saturday 17 July 2010 15:50:39 Carlos E. R. wrote: > > On 2010-07-17 22:22, Tim Mohlmann wrote: > > >> But it happens that in the forums we are suggesting to people that > > >> already have found a bug to report it in bugzilla right away... so this > > >> people will put "bugzilla" in the search box and not find it. > > >> > > >> Which is pistazienfresser point, I understand. > > > Did you already try it just before sending the Message? ;) > > I did try before sending my first message, but not the second one. > > > Try to type Bugzilla in search, and you'll see it's fixed. Thanks to > > > Rajko that is. > > So it is. He didn't say anything. Thanks, Rajko :-) > You are welcome :) I found that [[Report_a_Bug]] was the name of that page, on the old wiki, and articles in the new wiki also refernce it by that name. I've created it as yet-another-#redirect. I also found that the wiki search sucks in another unexpected way: (maybe related to what Rajko described below) A user who types 'bug report' in the search box, gets nothing. It appears that page title matches are 'exact matches', not substring matches. They are even case sensitive, so the uppercase B in 'Report a Bug' matters. cheers, JW- > Problem is that we have something like bug in advanced search that "hides" > page that exist right on the top of search window, instead to report it below > search field. Whole group "Page title matches" is sometimes missing. > > The old wiki has that right, and it is the same MediaWiki version as the new > wiki, so it is something about settings or extensions that are installed in a > new wiki. > > I'm trying to find configuration files before I file bug report on that, so > that system admins have easier job to fix, but I lost the link :( > > -- > Regards, > Rajko > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org > -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _=======.=======_ | jw(a)suse.de back to ascii! __/ _---|____________\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 __/ (____/ /\ (/) | _____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "You are trying to use packages from project 'openSUSE:11.2'. Note that malicious packages can compromise your system." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Articles That Need Review [[Special:OldReviewedPage]]
by pistazienfresser 18 Jul '10

18 Jul '10

Dear list, dear wiki-admins! For your interest: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:OldReviewedPages "[...] (22 days) [...]" Greetings pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Official docs openSUSE 11.3
by Tim Mohlmann 17 Jul '10

17 Jul '10

Hello Doc list, For the wiki, I would like to know when will the official novell docs be published? As for every version we create a link from the wiki to this original docs. At this moment I can't find anything on http://www.novell.com/documentation. Greetings, Tim Mohlmann (wiki team) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] bugs.opensuse.org - wrong/outdated redirect
by Christian Boltz 17 Jul '10

17 Jul '10

Hello, bugs.opensuse.org still redirects to the (now empty) page http://en.opensuse.org/Submit_a_Bug Can someone please update the redirect to a working page? ;-) It should probably point to http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Submitting_bug_reports Regards, Christian Boltz -- http://portal.suse.com/sdb/de/1997/09/maddin_kopieren.html Der Artikel wird demnächst 7, sollte also in die zweite Klasse Grundschule gehen, sobald die Ferien vorbei sind... [Michael Behrens in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Just got notification from November 2009 :)
by Rajko M. 17 Jul '10

17 Jul '10

openSUSE page User talk:Sabarth has been changed by Sabarth From: WikiAdmin <webmaster(a)opensuse.org> To: (me) Date: 2009-11-26 16:39 -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Transferring articles
by Tim Mohlmann 16 Jul '10

16 Jul '10

Hi Guys, I encountered ( as noted in the LTSP topic) that transferring can only be done by members of the "administrators" group. I'm more than willing to help with this. To be more specific, I'm kinda stuck here on LTSP and I want to complete it, as now I have the time to do it. I send a list to Rajko what to be transferred and to what name/location. I know he's busy and I don't want to push him, but I also hate to be patient. I do not have the ambition to become an "administrator" , but maybe there's a possibility to create a temporary group eg. "transfer" and add everybody in there that is allowed to import articles. Including me and the current "administrators" Greets, Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki Update
by Matthew Ehle 16 Jul '10

16 Jul '10

Hello, Here are a couple of quick items for you reference regarding the wiki: -Bug #619735 has been resolved and is awaiting verification. The /var partition on the backup web server got filled with logging. Since session data was also stored on the partition, new sessions were not being created. This was not a problem on the primary web server, which is why the problem was intermittent. Since cleaning out the partition, the problem seems to have gone away. If I don't hear anything about it happening in the next couple of days, I will close it. -I have installed the MultiUpload extension on the new wikis. Right now, you can access it at Special:MultipleUploads. However, I can easily make it the default uploader. Tim and I wanted to bring this up for a discussion. I think it is something that users will appreciate. If we make it the default, we may also want to edit the theme to say Upload files (plural) in the Toolbox, instead of the singular form. -Speaking of extensions, I was wondering if one or more of you might go through the list of extensions we have installed to make sure that they are all needed. We have an awful lot in there (twice as many as in the legacy wiki!), and I am a little concerned about the wiki getting bloated. It's no big deal if all the extensions are being used, but at the same time, I want to make sure that we they are being used. Thanks! -Matt

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[opensuse-wiki] Merging [[Portal:11.3/News]] and [[In the press]]?
by pistazienfresser 16 Jul '10

16 Jul '10

Hello list! Shall [[Portal:11.3/News]] and [[In the press]] be merged? Maybe [[In the press]] (name? [[In the media]]?) could become a portal with a 11.3 or a 11.3-press window/subpage? - Could this subpage used by [[Portal:11.3]] also? But then a coherent (and informative?) way of formating the references would be fine (see: http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:In_the_press ) Greetings pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Blog Versioning
by Matthew Ehle 16 Jul '10

16 Jul '10

>>>> Thomas Schmidt 07/16/10 4:31 AM >>> >>On 15.07.2010 22:13, Matthew Ehle wrote: >> Hello, >> >> OK, so this is not technically a wiki item, but it's close enough : ) >> >> I have just finished adding the three openSUSE blogs (lizards, news, and >> spotlight) into the same repository where the wiki is stored. The only >> things not in the repository are the special files we keep sensitive >> data and the upload directories (just like the wiki). This should >> provide a quick way for those of you involved with the blogs to edit and >> test themes and add plugins, and a quick way for me to deploy them to >> test, stage, and production. >> >> For those of you who are working on the new bento theme, you will >> probably want to continue using the git repository for the development >> work. When you are ready to try it out, you can just take the latest >> version from git and add it to each of the three blogs in berlios. >> After you have committed to the Subversion repository, go to >> http://wwwtest.provo.novell.com/company/blogs/svnup.php to deploy to test. >> >> As usual, please contact me with any questions. >Hi Matthew, are the wordpress instances also running on the wiki staging server? No, they are hosted with the Novell blogs on a different server. That's why I provided the PHP page to run svn up for you guys, so that you could be able to test without having to wait on me every time you want to try out your theme changes. If it is better for you, there should be no reason you can't set this us on a local LAMP server as well. I can get you dumps of the test databases. The only thing you will need to do differently is to use the Modify Headers FF extension to "log in". You just need to set it up to inject the following header info, and it should take you right through the login page: X-cn -> your username X-email -> your email address as it is on your www.novell.com account If that is something you want to be able to do, I'll be on GWIM in about another hour. Ping me there, and I'll get you a database to work with. -Matt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Complaints
by Tim Mohlmann 16 Jul '10

16 Jul '10

Then I will move it myself. jdd, It's not that I want to attack you, I'm not calling you useless. Probably 90% off the people working around openSUSE have more contribs then me. But if you come with problems, make it short facts. one by one, explain how to do it better and if it makes sense we can do something about it. Just writing endless complaints isn't motivating anybody to listen to you and do something about it. I'm just saying, redesigning the namespace again, it's far to late for that, so it's useless to discuss it. Yes, the main namespace should be like a brochure, but no, it is certainly not the working domain of the wiki team. We got other tings going on, like transferring more articles to make the wiki more complete. If we would like to restrict the pages, we would make it protected. You and anyone can edit all namespaces, there are only certain rules to follow, to give it a more organized structure than it was. And the hostile feeling about SDB: I know where it comes from, it used to be a namespace full of not updated articles and only to be used by experts. The new wiki is a nice opportunity to change this. Make it more complete and make it a real Support Database. See it as one big helpfile. I changed to this subject, since we like to use the Transferring Articles thread for quick questions to each other, while doing the job: transferring articles, with the structure how it is now. If somebody heads in trouble, he uses that thread. It's not meant for this discussions. If you are actually transferring an article and you have a question about it, or trouble, use that thread. For anything else, find or create another thread. >> Why? what's so hard about it? Type search, if the article doesn't >> exist, you click the red link in the search results, done! > > and go to the main namespace? Is that the good way? (I hope so :-) No, because if you look for a how to or support article, you search with SDB: If it doesn't show up, you can create it with SDB: prefix, if that of course what you are looking for. And typing SDB: can be used for people who know that support articles are located under SDB. People who don't know (are usually people that came around just a couple of times) go to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Support and search under Problem Solutions. So they don't have to worry about the SDB prefix. Greetings, Tim 2010/7/16 jdd <jdd(a)dodin.org>: > Le 16/07/2010 10:10, Tim Mohlmann a écrit : > >> You already checked http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki there it's >> perfectly explained to you, > > are you kidding? > > "prominently the main namespace (with no prefix) for the > _presentation_ of the latest openSUSE Distribution, think of it as the > product _brochure_" > > is that the place "anyone can write here"? as I will probably do if I > clic the red link as you say? > > if so this should be said clearly, I have no problem with it. In my > comprehension such sentence mean "don't touch if you are not from the > wiki team". > >> explain more on a certain item, like namespaces. It may have helped if >> you had reed the news: >> http://news.opensuse.org/2010/07/08/the-devil-is-in-the-details/ > > I did. The only namespace that seems to fit my needs is SBD, and if > this didn't change it's all but friendly! I already wrote articles for > SDB, and I tend to avoid it as much as possible. May be this have > changed! it would be good, > > I started to work on the new wiki 3 >> weeks ago and it took 1 day to undestand > > don't you think "one day to understand" is way more than most people > can afford? I know *I* couldmanage it (after all I was one of the > first on the initial wiki), but the goal is to attract as much people > as possible. > >>> Search for Blu Ray on the wiki returns nothing (and google >>> site:en.opensuse.org blu ray don't help) >> >> Well, then there's nothing wrong with our search engine then he? > > not sure. Blu ray is one of the main feature of the new 11.3, I'm sure > I read this on a page, but no search engine found it :-( > >> writing in complaint e-mails, you already should have already have 3 >> articles finished! > > is that enough: > http://old-en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&… > > but I don't want to begin with the new wiki making a mess :-( > >> Why? what's so hard about it? Type search, if the article doesn't >> exist, you click the red link in the search results, done! > > and go to the main namespace? Is that the good way? (I hope so :-) > >> We have this system, with the reviewing process, which you complained >> about in an earlier mail. > > no. I complain not knowing where to start. I try not to start on the > middle of an well organised stuff! > >> knew about this wiki transition long ago. Long enough to help out in >> the painful and slow progress of transferring articles. > > I want to help transferring the pages linked from my own user page. I > work full time for the french forum and wiki (and some other things > Linux related also) > >>> sorry if tghis is not exactly the good thread, But I couldn't think of >>> a better title :-( >> >> You are right, not the good tread, > > well? it's about transfering pages! > > we are trying to work here with >> practical things. If you'd wish to continue this discussion open a new >> thread for this: Complaints > > better not read that. We have to better know each other > > I just try to point things that don't work well. How can you make them > better if not? > > jdd > > > -- > http://www.dodin.net > http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-support-the-Linux-Documentation-Project/372… > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-fan-page-of-Claire-Dodin/106485119372062?… > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Logout page link leads to 403
by Rajko M. 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

http://en.opensuse.org/ICHAINLogout/?"http://en.opensuse.org/cmd/ICSLogout"-X click on openSUSE logo to get back to wiki and: 403 Forbidden This site does not support HTTPS. Please try again using HTTP. It is https link: https://en.opensuse.org/ -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Download help on the download page
by Atri Bhattacharya 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

Hi! In the main page http://software.opensuse.org/112/en none of the links work, they have to be modified to point to the correct location. For example see the section "Need help?" There is a "Download Help" link right below it that points to http://en.opensuse.org/Download_Help which is of course an empty page. The correct link should be http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_Help Similarly for all following links to en.o.o. This is *the page* for tomorrow, can't go wrong here :) Bye -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki Transition
by Matthew Ehle 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

Hello All, Last week, I posted an article on the news blog about the schedule for the move of the new wiki to en.opensuse.org. To summarize, the change will begin at 17:00 UTC (~30 minutes from now) and will last 10-15 minutes. Please make sure to wrap up any work you are doing on the new wiki by this time, so that you do not lose anything. I will send another message to the list when I am finished, and you may resume any work you are doing at that time. If you have any questions, please give me a call at my office at 1 801-861-2722. Thanks, Matt

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Transferring images
by Matthew Ehle 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

Tim, How are you determining which files you want to get? If it makes life easier for you, I can just allow index view on files.opensuse.org, which I should probably do anyway. With that, you can download all the files on old-en.opensuse.org into one directory with a single wget command. That would probably make it a lot easier for you to pick and choose the files you need. I will look into getting one of these upload extensions installed as soon as I get a handle on this session error bug that is affecting imports in the first place. Since it is possible, however unlikely, that one of the new extensions that we installed is related to the problem, I am wary of installing more extensions until we at least know what is going on. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and set index views on files.o.o before I go to bed and forget all about it. -Matt >>> Christian Boltz 07/14/10 4:35 PM >>> Hello, on Mittwoch, 14. Juli 2010, Tim Mohlmann wrote: > I'm still try to work out a script for downloading multiple images at > once, to overcome the sub-directory problem. Tried earlier tips form > Rajko and Cristian, but it's not working as it should (wget is > following a little bit to much). to get the directory structure: echo 'Image:foo.jpg' | sed 's/^Image://' | md5sum - | sed 's§^$.$$.$.*§\1/\1\2§' Script to download several images (not really tested, but should work): grep ".." imglist.txt | while read file ; do img=$(echo $file | sed 's/^Image://') imgpath=$(echo "$img" | md5sum - | sed 's§^$.$$.$.*§\1/\1\2§') wget "http://old-en.opensuse.org/images/$imgpath/$img" done This will download all files listed in imglist.txt with wget. imglist could look like that: Image:Foo.jpg Bar.jpg <---- Image: is not required (will be cut away anyway) Image:Baz.jpg I assume you know what you are writing into imglist.txt - the script does not have a real protection against funny filenames etc. Most important: you have to use _ instead of spaces (or add another sed ;-) If you prefer to use commandline parameters instead of a file with the filelist, replace the first line with for file in "$@" ; do Regards, Christian Boltz PS: In case you wonder: the "grep .." is a trick to skip empty lines ;-) -- An NT server can be run by an idiot, and usually is. [Tom Holub,a.h.b-o-u] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Transferring images
by Tim Mohlmann 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

Hi Guys, I found it particular difficult to transfer images (File:xxx.png). Now the work flow is: *Transfer article. You find missing images *Trace them down 1 by 1 on the old wiki and download them *Upload them 1 by 1 on the new wiki. This is very annoying when transferring articles with multiple screenshots, or Artwork articles (I'm busy with that). This gets also pointed out by others whom I speak on irc. At least for the uploading part I found: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiUpload There are more tastes available in: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Mass_uploading Is it possible to install an extension like this ASAP? I'm still try to work out a script for downloading multiple images at once, to overcome the sub-directory problem. Tried earlier tips form Rajko and Cristian, but it's not working as it should (wget is following a little bit to much). Greetings, Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Cleaning up the trash!
by Tim Mohlmann 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

Hi Guys, Today I started on cleaning the trash in http://old-en.opensuse.org/Category:Checked_Articles. Most article's where double marked (Reviewed and TransferNote). I Removed {{Reviewed}} from the articles also containing {{TransferNote}}. Now I'm busy clearing the list by transferring the articles and mark them with {{TransferNote}}. I hope I get half way today and finish it tomorrow. I also found articles already transferred, but not marked with {{TransferNote}}, so this is also in the fixing progress. Can an admin for old-en.o.o have a look at http://old-en.opensuse.org/Ambassadors/List and remove the {{Reviewed}} tag. I'm not admin on old-en.o.o and it's locked. PLEASE, when you transfer anything form this Category, don't forget to mark them and remove {{Reviewed}} tag. It was (and still is) a hell of a job to clean up afterwards. Thanks in advance! Greets, Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki Watch
by Matthew Ehle 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

Hello All, As some of you may know, we have hit a little snag with the wikis. One of the two primary web servers for www.opensuse.org, files.opensuse.org, and the wiki farm had a major hardware failure yesterday. After some discussion with the data center, we decided that it would be safer to keep that server out of the rotation, rather than attempt to fix and bring the server back online during the 11.3 release. Of course, this really couldn't have come at a worse time. As is expected, new releases cause much higher traffic than usual. Combine this with the fact that we have a brand new wiki out there that has generated a lot of interest and will require a learning curve (i.e. more pages per user), and I think this will probably be one of the highest traffic days that we have ever had. The silver lining here is that openSUSE invested in some really capable hardware. I did some tuning of the remaining server to prepare it for a high traffic load, and it should be able to handle quite a bit of traffic on its own. In addition, I brought the backup server online and tuned it for a higher load as well. It will be on rotation with the remaining primary server on all the sites, except for www.opensuse.org and en.opensuse.org. I left those two out so as to not overwhelm the considerably weaker backup server. With all of this together, I feel confident that the www page and wikis should run smoothly throughout the release. I have gotten some reports of sporadic slowness of the site, but I believe that was coming from iChain. Chris did some work on there, and I believe that resolved the problem. I just want you all to be aware that we not at our normal capacity going into this release. While we should be ok, please do me a favor and check out the site periodically for uptime and responsiveness. If anything seems out of the ordinary, please contact me right away. What would be especially useful is if any of you have some kind of web diagnostic tool, and send me any reports if the site is being slow. Without specific data and being unable to duplicate the problem, I will only be able to pinpoint the problem so far. Thank you, Matthew Ehle Web Engineer Application Development & Maintenance Affiliated Computer Services, Inc A Xerox Company Mobile Phone: (801) 228-8043 Office Phone: (801) 861-2722 mehle(a)novell.com

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[opensuse-wiki] Landing page for 11.3
by Atri Bhattacharya 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

Hi! There is no landing page for 11.3, there is only Portal:11.3. Is this intended, or is it okay to create a page for 11.3 at http://en.opensuse.org/11.3 similar to what we have for GNOME and KDE [1]? [1] http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME http://en.opensuse.org/KDE Bye -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Allow me to introduce myself
by Tim Mohlmann 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

Hello wiki team! As in the LTSP topic, Rajko has accepted my appliance for membership to the wiki team, it seems proper to me to introduce myself! My name is Tim Möhlmann, nick Muhlemmer on the wiki. Userpage: http://en.opensuse.org/User:Muhlemmer Although my last name is an old German name and my nick is German for trashcan (am I correct?), don't be tempted to assume I am German. I come from the Netherlands and life in a nice coastal village called Middelburg. My occupation is Marine Service Engineer and I'm specialised in nuts, bolts, pipes, pumps and electrics. I have a very strong interest in Marine automation, as this touches one off my hobby's: Computers. Throughout the years this became discovering and using linux, openSUSE being my favourite distro. It's a quite similar story like the most off us, seeing to much of window's BSOD, I started looking for alternatives and found Linux. The rest speaks for itself. My biggest frustration in my field of work: more and more automation companies in the marine sector are using Windows as a base OS. Taking in example Norcontroll, the biggest (and it was the most reliable) made a switch from Unix to Windows. Basically as excuse: The "specialists" find it easier to develop Windows based apps. Now I have to tell my costumers: It's not the automation that hangs, it just windows. The only thing I can suggest, reboot every week. As some people may know, rebooting an automation system is a small suicide attempt, there are always some thing not working or properly addressed when the system is back up. Pray it's not our electrical plant or propulsion systems. My big vision, one day build a professional and stable opensource based automation plant for the marine sector. Making it affordable and less binding for service. (If you need norcontroll service, you might have to wait a month or so). Anyway, I'm getting of track here.. back on again: What I do with openSUSE and the wiki * I'm not a wiki expert, neither a linux geek. Although I would like to be, I simply don't have time to be one. * Playing around with Linux is a hobby, which is done in my spare time. * I use the wiki to wright down, or correct what is written, according my own experience. * Doing this I find more to learn and try in Linux, giving me another opportunity to above etc. What can you expect of me in the Wiki-team *Because of my work I'm mostly abroad (last year 210 days), most of the times I work alone. *Although I totally like going to bars and clubs, it's not something I want to be doing every night to kill time. *I use this time for my "hobby" openSUSE and the wiki. *Sometimes I'm on projects that don't have spare time, in this case you will see less to nothing from me. *My days at home are sparse and I've got a girl and house to maintain, also don't expect to much from me in this case. *When I do have time, I'm busy all evening and the long sundays, making up for my downtime. Finally a nice quote, that describes my relation with openSUSE and the wiki: "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." Conficius (around 500 BC) Hope to have a nice coöperation with you guys! Tim Möhlmann -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] kernel / Linux Kernel
by pistazienfresser 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2010-07/msg00368.html Hello Wiki-List, I think it would be grate if there would be an article about the kernel and especially the varieties in openSUSE and some (external) links to further information. I may be able to deliver something like a stub or be used as a dummy to test if a real article is easy to understand but I do think it would be a good idea if someone else/some other people would do the real work - some people how do really now how the kernel works and how making the kernel (technically and socially) works... Greetings pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE 11.2 with GNOME 2.28.2 (or KDE 4.3.5) and Kernel Linux 2.6.31.12-0.2-default (or pae, Ubuntu 10.4 LTS 'lucid' 2.6.33-22-genetic, MS Win XP) - Samsung X20 (SX20S) with Pentium M 740 (1730 MHz), Intel graphic 915GM, 1400x1050 - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Import/Export For All Groups
by Matthew Ehle 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

Hello All, In response to "New wiki, what now?" article on news.opensuse.org, someone commented on the fact that the import/export functionality is not available to most users. I wanted to point this out to the wiki team so that you can decide among yourselves whether you wish to keep it this way. There is obviously a lot of potential for abuse and quality issues if this function is available to all users. On the other hand, a lot of people might care about preserving the history of the articles and will not be happy if they have no way of doing it. Perhaps the best route might be to do something in between. I could delegate the Import/Export functions to a group such as "Editors", and let them decide on which pages to import into the new wiki. Then we can let the average user know whom they can contact to request an import. This is what I would personally suggest. In addition, it was pointed out that there is an open bug to add an extension for protecting user pages. I'm going to try this out on stage, and if no one has any objections, commit it to the repository and deploy it to production. Now if I can just remember my Berlios credentials... :D -Matt

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[opensuse-wiki] http://wiki.opensuse.org/ still onine and editable !?
by Michael Loeffler 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

Moin, it looks like http://wiki.opensuse.org/ still is online and editable. I guess this shouldn't be the case, right? I almost edited stuff there as my browser of course remembered the pages I used over the last weeks. Best Michael -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Galleries in the new wiki
by Atri Bhattacharya 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

Hi! I have noticed that the galleries in the new wiki set-up don't look pretty if they are followed by multiple lines of captions. For example, here http://en.opensuse.org/Screenshots#GNOME you can see how the galleries adjust and move up and down to accommodate for varying lines of caption. In my opinion, the gallery image should be top aligned, and not adjust itself to accommodate its captions. For example of how it would perhaps better look, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gallery_tag Bye. -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Links in the Help sidebar for the openSUSE Download page
by Atri Bhattacharya 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

Hi! The links in the Help sidebar point to pages in the wiki that have been relocated/deleted as part of the Wiki transition. These links now need to be corrected so they point to the right pages/namespaces. Bye. -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Missing tags
by Christian Boltz 11 Jul '10

11 Jul '10

Hello, I just noticed that in some cases the tags are not rendered in wiki.o.o, which results in not-so-nice output. Example: http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_Debian_builds#Patch_format Wikitext of this section (only the broken paragraph): xUbuntu 6.06 additionally doesn't allow content after the <tt>@@..@@</tt> line. E.g. <pre>@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ openvas-libraries.tmpl: openvas-librarie</pre> will fail while <pre>@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@</pre> will work just fine. Simply removing the content after the second <tt>@@</tt> should solve this. Resulting HTML: xUbuntu 6.06 additionally doesn't allow content after the <tt>@@..@@</tt> line. E.g. <pre>@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ openvas-libraries.tmpl: openvas-librarie</pre> will fail while <pre>@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@</pre> will work just fine. Simply removing the content after the second <tt>@@</tt> should solve this. -> the paragraph is not wrapped in / We could discuss if nesting <pre> tags in a paragraph is good style and/or valid HTML (IMHO not really), but it still shouldn't break the margin-left ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- "Der Unterschied zwischen einem Windows- und Linux-User ist der, daß ein Linux-User lesen kann!" [Frank Gerd Walzebuck in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Re: [Kiwi-ltsp-users] LTSP
by Tim Mohlmann 11 Jul '10

11 Jul '10

I will pick this up. Maybe it would be nice to create a category tree for this pages. I'm sure I already encountered a page containing something like it, or am I getting confused here. Can't find it anymore, only that it still has to be fixed. http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Support/TODO. 2010/7/7 Jigish Gohil <cyberorg(a)opensuse.org>: > Hi Tim > > Most of the stuff in http://en.opensuse.org/Category:LTSP has been > posted by me. It would be nice if wiki people can do the moving, I > will be happy to fix anything that breaks after a move. > > Cheers > > -J > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Tim Mohlmann <muhlemmer(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> I came across http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP during my big "ssh" search. >> I'm wondering, the transfer / review of this kind of project pages >> (although it's not a real openSUSE project) , is there a >> responsibility of the project people, or the "wiki" people. I don't >> want to be touching something regarding a project I don't know much >> off. I've put the LTSP mailinglist in CC, maybe they are unaware of >> the transition. >> >> Greetings, Tim >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint >> What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? >> Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first >> _______________________________________________ >> Kiwi-ltsp-users mailing list >> Kiwi-ltsp-users(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kiwi-ltsp-users >> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Re: [Kiwi-ltsp-users] LTSP
by Tim Mohlmann 10 Jul '10

10 Jul '10

KIWI-LTSP Guys, Most articles are transferred. (I noticed 1 or 2 missing) They are now put in the correct namespace, eliminating subpages of LTSP/. All pages are listed in the Navigation section of http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:KIWI-LTSP, Note that the wiki will be switched monday to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:KIWI-LTSP. The "old" wiki will be put under old-en.opensuse.org. I cleaned up the category section off all the articles. All articles now only belong to [[Category:KIWI-LTSP]]. I made [[Category:KIWI-LTSP]] subcategory of [[Category:Education]] and [[Category:KIWI-Projects]] (These where first under every article, filling up the Category pages. The Portal:LTSP-WIKI is put in all 3 categories + [[Category:Portals]]. For now, Rajko has redirected the old page structure to the new. So that links from external sites don't get broken after transition. Also to keep the navigation between pages working, for now. The links between pages are still to be changed to point to the new page names and not the Redirect pages. If I understood Rajko correctly, the redirects will be removed in time, so make sure other pages outside the wiki will get pointed to the new pagenames! If you please can verify the following pages: http://wiki.opensuse.org/SDB:KIWI-LTSP_local_applications http://wiki.opensuse.org/SDB:KIWI-LTSP_transcoding This code was making trouble: <repository type="rpm-md"> <source path="http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.2/"/> </repository> Rajko enclosed text in <pre> and </pre> tags, so they will be ignored. Still to be done: Transferring Images for most off the articles, Change links between articles, Put some formatting in Category:KIWI-LTSP and the portal could use some touch up. Greetings, Tim 2010/7/9 Jigish Gohil <cyberorg(a)opensuse.org>: > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Tim Mohlmann <muhlemmer(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Jigish, >> >> Created the redirects. Can you please merge >> http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Cluster/Setup and >> http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Cluster. After that we will transfer them. >> Both are describing how to setup a KIWI-LTSP cluster. >> >> Maybe you could also point to the possibility of cluster (and a basic >> description) in the Portal's Featured articles. >> (http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:KIWI-LTSP/Featured_article) >> > Skip http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Cluster/Setup for now, Shrenik will > have a look at it. > > Cheers > > -J > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Pages not reviewed/migrated yet
by Frank Sundermeyer 09 Jul '10

09 Jul '10

Hi, FYI: in the process of updating the openSUSE documentation for 11.3, I reviewed all links pointing from our books to en.o.o . During that process I found some valuable articles on en.o.o which haven't been migrated or even reviewed that. Unfortunately I do not have the time to migrate them myself, therefore I have listed them at http://wiki.opensuse.org/Help:Todo under "specific pages" so they do not get lost. -- Regards Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Pages not reviewed/migrated yet
by Tim Mohlmann 09 Jul '10

09 Jul '10

My fault, intended to send to mailing list: 2010/7/9 Tim Mohlmann <muhlemmer(a)gmail.com>: Henne, I saw you todo list under http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:GNOME. But there are many, many subpages of Gnome, not listed here (thank God). 223 pieces to be exactly. I used the move option to list the subpages: http://en.opensuse.org/Special:MovePage/GNOME As you said: Subpages are the devils work! > > 2010/7/5 Henne Vogelsang <hvogel(a)opensuse.org>: >> Hi, >> >> On 30.06.2010 14:42, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: >> >>> Unfortunately I do not have the time to migrate them myself, therefore I >>> have listed them at http://wiki.opensuse.org/Help:Todo under "specific >>> pages" so they do not get lost. >> >> Nothing will get lost. The old wiki will still be available as >> http://old-en.opensuse.org >> >> Henne >> >> -- >> Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. >> Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. >> - Mike Tyson >> -- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org >> >> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Portal page template
by Tim Mohlmann 09 Jul '10

09 Jul '10

Hi guys, Yesterday I created a new portal. I encountered a small bug. When a sub-page is edited, it doesn't get updated in the static box until I click edit and then save on the Portal main page. When a article is created or removed, the Project main page does get updated, including the earlier edits in other subpage. I remember to encountered the same bug when I edited a custom Navbar template (Template:openSSHNav). The Navbar didn't get updated in the pages showing it, until the edit -save action for each page. Also, working on the Portal I found some things that may be improved: Make templates to create a static box in one command. Create in a template called "Template:Portal intro box" {{Box-header|<big>Welcome to the {{PAGENAME}} Portal</big>|{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Intro|}} {{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Intro}} {{Box-footer|}} Create in template called "Template:Portal static box" {{Box-header|{{{1}}}|{{FULLPAGENAME}}/{{{1}}}|}} {{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/{{{1}}}}} {{Box-footer|}} Create in template called "Template:Portal news box" {{Box-header|In the news|{{FULLPAGENAME}}/News|}} {{{{FULLPAGENAME}}/News}} {{Box-footer|[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}/News/Archive|More news...]]}} And a featured article page template would be nice, where a number of static boxes is created displaying all the Featured articles. I now created one manually on http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:KIWI-LTSP/Featured_article. It would be nice that the number of boxes created here correspond to the max= in {{Random portal component with nominate|max=5|header=Featured article|footer=More articles...| subpage=Featured article}} which is put on the Portal page. If you guys agree, I can create the static box templates. The featured article template however... I got no idea how to realize this. Greets, Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Re: [Kiwi-ltsp-users] LTSP
by Tim Mohlmann 09 Jul '10

09 Jul '10

Jigish, Created the redirects. Can you please merge http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Cluster/Setup and http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Cluster. After that we will transfer them. Both are describing how to setup a KIWI-LTSP cluster. Maybe you could also point to the possibility of cluster (and a basic description) in the Portal's Featured articles. (http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:KIWI-LTSP/Featured_article) Greetings, Tim 2010/7/9 Jigish Gohil <cyberorg(a)opensuse.org>: > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Tim Mohlmann <muhlemmer(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Created http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:KIWI-LTSP This will be the new >> version for http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP >> I used all the information available in the original article and made >> it a little more compact (same info in less words). Please let me know >> what you think of it (so far). Of course still work is to be done >> regarding navigation etc. This I will do after my next step: actually >> transferring all the articles. > > Thanks, looks good, will work on it once you finish migrating all > pages. Could you also put redirect to this page from these pages: > > http://wiki.opensuse.org/LTSP > http://wiki.opensuse.org/KIWI-LTSP > > Cheers > > -J >> >> 2010/7/7 Tim Mohlmann <muhlemmer(a)gmail.com>: >>> I will pick this up. Maybe it would be nice to create a category tree >>> for this pages. I'm sure I already encountered a page containing >>> something like it, or am I getting confused here. Can't find it >>> anymore, only that it still has to be fixed. >>> http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Support/TODO. >>> >>> 2010/7/7 Jigish Gohil <cyberorg(a)opensuse.org>: >>>> Hi Tim >>>> >>>> Most of the stuff in http://en.opensuse.org/Category:LTSP has been >>>> posted by me. It would be nice if wiki people can do the moving, I >>>> will be happy to fix anything that breaks after a move. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> -J >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Tim Mohlmann <muhlemmer(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi there, >>>>> >>>>> I came across http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP during my big "ssh" search. >>>>> I'm wondering, the transfer / review of this kind of project pages >>>>> (although it's not a real openSUSE project) , is there a >>>>> responsibility of the project people, or the "wiki" people. I don't >>>>> want to be touching something regarding a project I don't know much >>>>> off. I've put the LTSP mailinglist in CC, maybe they are unaware of >>>>> the transition. >>>>> >>>>> Greetings, Tim >>>>> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Siga Transfer
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

Hello Mates, i just would like to migrate my en.o.o/Siga to the new wiki Instance. Can i use wiki.o.o/Siga or should i use an other Namespace? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns open-slx GmbH openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

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[opensuse-wiki] An effort to improve the suse/openSUSE pages on Wikipedia
by Strainu 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

Hi all, I'm cross-posting this to both the wiki and the translation lists, as well as on the Romanian list in the hope that I will receive the broadest possible feedback. There are currently several issues with the way openSUSE is represented on non-english wikipedias: 1) There are different articles in different language (i.e. different articles for Suse Linux, openSUSE, SLES, SLED etc or just one article for all, with basically all the variations in between). 2) There is a lack of coverage for subjects related to openSUSE, like OBS, YaST, zypp etc. 3) The information in the articles might be out of date by up to several years. While I understand that it would be difficult for our global and local communities to also actively maintain the Wikipedia articles, I think we could take some steps to facilitate contributing to Wikipedia articles: 1) Find a common way to develop articles about openSUSE. 1.1 What articles should one start with (openSUSE, Suse Linux, openSUSE Project?) and what parts could get separate articles in a second/third phase? 1.2 How should all the articles relate to each other? 1.3 What resources from the openSUSE wiki could be relevant to the various articles? 1.4 How can one minimize the quantity of information that "deprecates" rapidly? 2) Make sure that relevant images from the openSUSE wiki are also available in Wikipedia. Would it be feasible to use Wikimedia Commons as a repository for some of our free images (at least the screenshots)? I know that any mediawiki installation can use commons as an image repository under certain conditions. 3) Encourage the translators to get involved in writing the Wikipedia articles in their language. How can we do that best? If an openSUSE wiki exists in that language, perhaps we could somehow keep in sync a page on the openSUSE wiki and on Wikipedia? 4) Write all of the above on an wiki page (what title should it have?) :) I'm looking forward to your ideas regarding the points raised in this email. Strainu P.S. Sorry for the poor formatting of this email, I just can't seem to get it right today :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] SSH Tunnels form Microsoft Windows
by Tim Mohlmann 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

Hi, What you opinion on supporting this in the wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/SSH_Tunnels_from_Microsoft_Windows. It's clearly a windows / PuTTY howto. Maybe it's more appropriate mentioning PuTTY somewhere, with some short possibilities. (eg in the openSSH article). I feel that strict Windows Howto's, that don't really touch openSUSE (maybe only when you are actually accessing an openSSH server which is maybe running on Linux and than maybe on openSUSE), don't belong in the wiki. That's an opinion off course. Greetings, Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] LTSP
by Tim Mohlmann 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

Hi there, I came across http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP during my big "ssh" search. I'm wondering, the transfer / review of this kind of project pages (although it's not a real openSUSE project) , is there a responsibility of the project people, or the "wiki" people. I don't want to be touching something regarding a project I don't know much off. I've put the LTSP mailinglist in CC, maybe they are unaware of the transition. Greetings, Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Portal YaST is alone
by Rajko M. 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

How to we bind http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:YaST with rest of portals and wiki? The structure of fields is a bit strange with one 100% width at the bottom, which produces large blank area in the middle, and completely missing related and navigational stuff. That 100% at the bottom is about development, but it pretty much duplicates content of top one. -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Strategy Discussion in new wiki?
by Andreas Jaeger 06 Jul '10

06 Jul '10

We've created some pages in the "old" wiki for the strategy discussion and I'd like to move these to the new wiki. Currently the pages are reachable via http://en.opensuse.org/Documents/Strategy Where should these life in the new wiki? I'll do the move myself, just need some guidance on the location - and will then ask for review when done. Also, I just send a reference to what the Meego project does for Developer engagement. I'd like to collect such references for community building in our wiki. Any ideas for a good location? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj(a){novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-wiki] Portals for 11.1, 11.2, 11.3
by Rajko M. 05 Jul '10

05 Jul '10

They all need content or fixes that I have no time to do. http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Distribution Seems to be fine. http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:11.1 We need all from scratch. http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:11.2 Partially done. It needs more content and maybe some cleanup. http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:11.3 We need all from scratch. Help docs for editing Portal pages will be added to the rest of the help pages as time permits. For now, if basic instructions below don't answer you questions, just ask. Basic is that content is added or edited in subpages using Edit link on the top right side of frame title line. Example: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:11.2 Frame title: Related portals link edit Click edit and it will open http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Portal:11.2/Related_portals&action… Do changes. Check how it looks like with "Show preview" button under the edit field. When satisfied, click "Save page" button. Saved page is now: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:11.2/Related_portals You can see that is not the actual portal page. Click on link Portal:11.2 and you will be back to the: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:11.2 Check layout of portal pages. New content should not go out of the frame, or garble the Portal page in any way. When all is done, please report here, so that someone from wiki team can review changes and approve them for publishing. We use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs that allows edits, but by default it shows only approved version (flagged as good) to the casual wiki visitors, so to make changes visible for everybody as soon as possible they need approval. -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] openssh - tunneling x over openssh articles etc.
by Tim Mohlmann 05 Jul '10

05 Jul '10

Hi there, I'm currently (and already some time now) busy with editing, creating and upgrading articles about openssh and prepare them for transition. At the moment there are many different articles about forwarding X display through a ssh connection, only under different names. There are some I encountered on my search on the wiki, although I didn't write them down. (At that time I thought I was only going to change a few words in the openSSH article). When this is finished I want to start on one good article about X forwarding, taking all the information in the existing articles, saving to check and move all this pages. Most of them are incomplete or obsolete anyway. Is there some Temporary namespace, where I can create a page to make this inventory (for myself). And if anyone encounters or knows an article, throw it on the list. I know your really busy with the transition right now, If I can help, just shout. But, I'm not a wiki expert. Neither a Linux expert, but I see the wiki as a handy notebook for myself, how I got things working. Since, the wiki and other Internet sources are not always 100% correct. That's how I started with this. Just a small note on my current work, you might see that some links to articles are not working. That's because it's already prepared to serve the new wiki. Anyway, the links are just quickly created to have something there (In the knowledge bar and at the bottom. I will invest more time in them after the transition. Geetings, Tim Mohlmann (User Muhlemmer) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Release Announcement
by Henne Vogelsang 05 Jul '10

05 Jul '10

JFYI, because people keep asking i have blogged on news.o.o about the release of the new wiki next monday: http://news.opensuse.org/2010/07/05/a-new-hope/ Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Plan Status?
by Klaas Freitag 05 Jul '10

05 Jul '10

Hi, I have a question regarding the current plan and the status of the Wiki migration. If I remember correctly the plan was to switch to the new english (and the german?) wiki before 11.3 comes out, is that still the plan? When looking at the Todo-Page at [1] one still finds a lot of free spaces in the list in the "Who"-Column. Is the list up to date? Or does that matter at all? It would be great if the Wiki Team could clearify on this a bit because I think the new wiki is quite important for a nice 11.3 "Party" and it would be good to know about the facts there. Thanks, Klaas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] pages moved to new wiki but aren' there
by Michael Loeffler 02 Jul '10

02 Jul '10

Moin, just browsed on http://en.opensuse.org/Maintenance/Team and saw at the top " This article has been transferred to the http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Maintenance/Team" Great, I thought first, then checked the page in the new wiki and found "There is currently no text in this page" Is this just an accident or are there more pages in similar state? Thanks M -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Re: Scripts in the Wiki Template
by Rajko M. 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

On Monday 28 June 2010 18:56:38 you wrote: > Hello Rajko, > > AFAIK you have done two weeks ago in our > http://wiki.opensuse.org/Template:Weekly_news_full improvements. Anything > like $FORUM_SUBSCRIBERS ($FORUM_SUBSCRIBERS_DIFF) registered users > > Is it possible to fetch this Issues automaticly? I did not work on that, but basic idea is to fetch numbers automatically, and to automatically fill in Weekly news, by replacing $VARIABLE with actual value. I CC this to wiki list, so that people there can see and help. What is the idea? To have stats that are published in each Weekly news automatically updated. For instance, use variables in wiki text and fill in values every week before publishing. ==openFATE Team ===Statistics=== Total: $OPENFATE_TOTAL $OPENFATE_TOTAL_DIFF Unconfirmed:$OPENFATE_UNCONFIRMED $OPENFATE_UNCONFIRMED_DIFF New: $OPENFATE_NEW $OPENFATE_NEW_DIFF Evaluation: $OPENFATE_EVALUATION $OPENFATE_EVALUATION_DIFF Candidate: $OPENFATE_CANDIDATE $OPENFATE_CANDIDATE_DIFF Done: $OPENFATE_DONE $OPENFATE_DONE_DIFF Rejected: $OPENFATE_REJECTED $OPENFATE_REJECTED_DIFF Duplicate: $OPENFATE_DUPLICATE $OPENFATE_DUPLICATE_DIFF There are similar stats for bugzilla, forums and mail lists. There is solution that script will load all stats in one article weekly and then we can substitute it to the Weekly news article itself, just before release. The other is to work on weekly news text directly. Substitution is similar how templates work (transclusion), but it is permanent change to the wiki text. The syntax is {{subst:Some_article}} . So we need ideas how this can be solved the easiest possible way. -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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