Hello,
As Carlos pointed out, I had accidentally hijacked an earlier thread, so I am starting this new one up. Here is the original message:
I have implemented Google Custom Search on enstage.opensuse.org, and I am personally very happy with the results. To try it out, you can visit http://enstage.opensuse.org/Portal:GoogleSearch and try searching on anything you want. It is about a thousand times better than what we have, and with the better relevance ranking, namespace searching is no longer an issue.
While the current search is advertisement supported, I am nearly positive that we can get ad support removed. It seems that Google is pretty willing to do this for non-profits.
What does everyone think? If you don't have access to the staging site, I will be more than happy to send you a screen shot of the search page.
If everyone is on board, I will ask Thomas to edit the theme to make it the default search, and we'll send it live.
Thanks,
Matt
By the way, you need access to the staging site to see this (i.e. you need to be on the Novell network). I can provide screen shots if requested.
Hello All and Everyone-
Today, I wish to talk about redundancy. In particular things that add no
new information and are a simple rearrangement of the understood data.
In other words: repetitiveness for no-gain at all.
Problem
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I was trying to point a community member at the Kernel Git page today so
they could get involved. But I was baffled to find it gone. Searching a
bit I ended up finding it at this URL:
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Kernel_git
Two openSUSE's in one URL, what a deal! Without that openSUSE: namespace
I might have thought I was going to grab the Ubuntu Kernel Git...
As we are breaking URLs all over with this new wiki anyways can we take
a moment and consider the URL monsters we are creating here? Just look
at it once again:
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Kernel_git
There has got to be something better, lets find a solution. :)
Solution
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Lets look at the mission statement of the openSUSE: namespace[1]:
"And the openSUSE community's openSUSE: namespace to collaboratively
write on documentation for their projects and teams."
Possible alternatives:
0. No namespace at all, the openSUSE community exists at openSUSE.org!
We have an entire domain to call our own! Why do we need a namespace?
1. devel: ? Oh, but these teams are not necessarily developers
2. teams: ? Erm, no because then it would be teams:Kernel_git which
makes no sense
3. community: ? Maybe, but community:Java packaging cookbook looks
strange
4. project: ? This is my second choice as nearly all of the links on
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Project are to the openSUSE: namespace...
1-4 have their problems but at least they are not redundant.
Lets discuss what problem this openSUSE: namespace is trying to solve
and how we can make sane looking URLs on our new wiki. And lets do it
fast so we can avoid breaking URLs again.
Cheers,
Brandon
[1] http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki/Concept
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Do we have solved issue with blocking IP when user name is blocked?
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On 15.07.2010 12:21, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
> On 2010-07-15 12:12:56 +0200, Thomas Schmidt wrote:
>> On 14.07.2010 23:25, pistazienfresser wrote:
>>> On 14/07/10 22:20, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 01:38 +0530, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> In the main page
>>>>> http://software.opensuse.org/112/en
>>>>> none of the links work, they have to be modified to point to the correct
>>>>> location.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To follow up, there is a link to
>>>> http://en.opensuse.org/BitTorrent_and_openSUSE
>>>> in the write-up which appears when you click on the little blue "?" just
>>>> beside the string "Download Method" for every type of download media,
>>>> i.e. for the 4.7GB DVD, Live images and others. This too points to an
>>>> empty page, and I have no idea where this should point to either, bcoz
>>>> there seems to be no page close to this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hello Atri, hello list, hello "admin",
>>> as there was a very little link with "Feedback" and admin(a)opensuse.org
>>> behind it on that page "http://software.opensuse.org/112/en" I added
>>> this address to the TO section above.
>>>
>>> And as "software" is none of the 34 namespaces I see on
>>> http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:Search the administrators of the wiki
>>> may not the only ones with the ability to fix it.
>>>
>>> But I think temporally that could be fixed also in the wiki if someone
>>> knows where the meant articles are now and creates or recreates a
>>> redirect to the meant page/article on the page the link on
>>> "http://software.opensuse.org/112/en" or tomorrow
>>> "http://software.opensuse.org/113/en" etc. points to...
>>
>> I removed the link to bittorrent, as the article is not yet transferred and marked as incomplete
>> (http://old-en.opensuse.org/BitTorrent_and_openSUSE).
>> The other link is fixed: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Metalink
>>
>> Changing strings short before the release has the downside we will have those strings
>> in english only for all users until the translations catched up.
>
> uhm ... we want to push bittorrent usage for this release.
> could you please work on migrating this?
Ok, I copied it to SDB:BitTorrent_and_openSUSE.
Can someone with bittorrent expertise help reviewing this article?
Greetings
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Hello,
There are two major problems with the bento theme login which will need to be fixed. Until they are, I am recommending that everyone avoid using the javascript login form and instead use the standard login page that is used by the legacy wiki.
Issue 1: The login form sends information in plain text over plain HTTP. I have actually fixed this on stage, but perhaps others would like to review it to make sure that passwords aren't being sent in clear text anymore. Assuming that is the case, it can go live when I run the next update. So please try this out in stage (if you are able) and get back to me. If one of you have WireShark installed, that would be perfect.
Issue 2: As far as I can tell, this login form is the reason behind Bug 619735. After a lot of testing and troubleshooting in stage, this is the most likely culprit so far. Basically, I can duplicate the problem easily when using the bento login form, but I cannot duplicate at all using the standard login page. It looks like the cookie is not set properly when using this login, although I can't see any apparent reason why that is. Strangely enough, submitting an edit does set the cookie, which is why only the first edit fails.
Please test out the fix for the first issue, and see what might be causing the second. Until then, the best workaround is to use the standard login form.
Thanks!
Matt
Hey,
only spammers edited the main page for a long time now. As the bot's
seem to have no clue about Flaggedrevs i have protected the page for now.
Henne
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Hello!
The web and the KDE Portal refers to
http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Developing/Guide for developing KDE on openSUSE,
i.e. tries to attract developers to use openSUSE. Those links now point into
emptiness. How come they were not transfered and the work that went into them
thus disregarded?
Sven
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Hi,
wer immer von euch Online ist, sollte sich schnellstens die EN-Wiki
Startseite anschauen. Das wurde wieder von Spam-Kram reingesetzt und der
darin befindliche Inhalt gelöscht.
Ich schmeiß den Spam Mist da raus, aber
sperren müsst ihr diese, da ich im EN-Wiki nicht die Rechte habe wie im
DE-Wiki.
Ihr solltet diese Seiten sperren und nur für Admins zugänglich
halten.
Sorry das ich hier deutsch schreibe, aber englisch ist very BAD
:)
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who is always online you should look at the soon-EN wiki page.
This was again reingesetzt spam stuff and deleted the contents
therein.
I'll throw the spam crap out there, but you have to block them
because I was not in EN-wiki, the rights as in DE-Wiki.
you should lock
these pages and release only for admins.
Sorry that I here write German, but
english is very BAD:)
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Linuxsusefan
Die SuSE sei mit euch, wo immer ihr seid
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Hello Project Management,
I would like to know why the German wiki page was not transferred to the
English wiki as was previously announced?
Somehow, no one has spoken on this subject and none of the active of the
German Wiki said anything if the DE wiki is still there later, do not turn, or
whatever?
After all, we have spotted our items ready to keep the transfer date to be
able to.
Had to get an important information, since the links (Inter-wiki, etc) no
longer work and into the empty run. It will keep asking users what if and how
what happened there, the same is true for users to create or edit the
articles. This condition may not remain so and should be corrected urgently.
I know this have to do much, and all are busy. Yet it would be nice if one
could follow in short sentences info so that we in "good old Germany" also
know where we are ....:)
Deutsche Fassung findet sich in der deutschsprachigen Wiki-Mailingliste
(opensuse-wiki-de). Bitte eine Antwort der besseren Verständigung halber dort
Posten!
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Grüße aus dem Schwabenland,
Uwe der Linuxsusefan
Die SuSE sei mit euch, wo immer ihr seid .....
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I have seen a lot of mails flying by about the Wiki rework etc, but..
(I may have missed the discussion) has there been any plans or thought
put into fixing the poor default search in MediaWiki?
There was a discussion about this on the Project list a few days ago,
and it brought up a very good point. The default search within
MediaWiki is very poor to say the least. There are a couple of
extensions for MediaWiki available that vastly improve the returned
results, especially this one:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MWSearch combined with
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lucene-search
Are there any plans to implement this extension, or do anything to
improve the search results?
C.
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