February 2008 - openSUSE Wiki - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-wiki] openSUSE map
by Christian Boltz 01 Mar '08

01 Mar '08

Hello, some things regarding the openSUSE map: 1. FYI: I have just added sorting to the map userlist. Users are now sorted alphabetically inside my little PHP script that fetches the map data from the wiki. 2. A question: I noted that someone [1] added autosponsor24(dot)de [2] to the map. This page looks purely commercial, and I would vote for removing this map entry because I consider it to be spam. (Other opinions?) 3. I also noted that http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Community/Map offers several other languages - but those I tested led to an non-existing page. Please fix the interwiki links or remove them if you don't have this page translated. 4. For the records: the map has currently 146 entries. 5. Please add yourself to the map if you didn't already ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz [1] Is there something like "cvs annotate" for the wiki? It's painful to go through the history to find out who has added a specific line :-/ [2] No, I don't want to add another link to this page in the list archives ;-) -- [Serieller Anschluss] Mittlerweile ist (fast) alles USB. OK, es gibt auch Adapter, aber die kosten wieder extra. Und der Rechner soll später nicht aussehen wie ein Tannenbaum, mit einem Bündel herabhängender Adaptern anstatt Lametta. [Ralph Müller in suse-linux] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki Cleanup Todo
by Josh 29 Feb '08

29 Feb '08

I just want to make sure we are keeping up the conversation and getting some of the important information in a central place. As we read from Frank S, categories alone aren't the best route for the wiki overhaul and we know editing of all articles and re-categorizing them is unsatisfying work. So Rajko's proposed Portal idea is a solution that may be more tolerable. This is a lot of work for one person so recruiting more wiki editors is a must. Rajko mentioned the Wiki Team pages says the wiki team is a loose group of people. This may need to be redefined. If we can have a groups of people to work on certain sections of the portal it will divide the work and ease the workload on all of us. So the other question Rajko brought up is where do we recruit these dedicated wiki editors? A summary of all of this: * We have the openSUSE:Popular Topics page which we need to overview and determine the 5-10 most important areas of interest and make dedicated portal pages to these topics. * The openSUSE:Category_Hierarchy page should still be worked on. The category tree can then be used in the Portal. * Recruit our first actual wiki team(s). Announce on mailing lists, forums, the main page. We probably need to come up with our portal categories before we recruit the respective teams. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] openSUSE Web Start Page
by Kevin Dupuy 29 Feb '08

29 Feb '08

In Fedora 8, the web browser's home page redirects into http:// start.fedoraproject.org/ which is a start page for Fedora that includes the ability to search the web (it points to Google) and it also points to other links for Fedora users. Perhaps something similar could be done for openSUSE. Besides only offering a nice openSUSE-themed start page to search the web, but it could also provide ways for normal users of openSUSE to easily get important info (like surveys, other announcements important for openSUSE users) that they might otherwise overlook on the wiki or on the openSUSE News website. I'm going to work on the idea. What do yall think? Kevin "Yo" Dupuy | Linux Mail: <kevin.dupuy(a)opensuse.org> Hope for America: Ron Paul for President <RonPaul2008.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] "Wiki Overhaul Weekend" suggestion for accelerated wiki cleanup
by Joshua Levesque 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

I have brought this to a few different areas of the openSuSE community and was directed here. I have thought that maybe OpenSuSE should propose a "Wiki Overhaul Weekend" or two to accelerate the cleanup of the wiki. This event would be similar to the KDE bug smashing weekends. Volunteers could get together on IRC and discuss the needs and the future of the wiki. Of course this will require proper organization and announcements to get the word out. My original idea was that everyone would decide on category conventions and categorizing pages but I was pointed to the OpenSuSE portal which is a project to replace the categories. So this overhaul weekend could support the portal movement and get more users volunteered. The wiki is very important for everyone seeking information about OpenSuSE, trying troubleshoot problems, or learn how to perform new tasks. The wiki should be accessible and easy to browse and search. This is not a task one person can do on their own, which is why I bring this here. The users need to be aware of the wiki's dependency on volunteers. Maybe having such an event will raise awareness and result in a much better wiki experience. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] "Wiki Overhaul Weekend" suggestion for accelerated wiki cleanup
by Josh 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

> You do know that an article can be in more than one category? Yes, I have put articles in more than one category. I just don't feel that large tagging libraries are too useful and put too many articles in a general category when they should just be put in more specific categories, not cluttering general categories. The whole point is to organize, not have chaos. > Can return? Why do you remove them on all pages first (and even without prior > discussion about, or where was it)? They will most likely return in a different form, probably more organized. Most of the pages on these categories removed have been recategorized anyways, so they are not just floating. >> I think it will be much easier to navigate the wiki if articles are >> categorized > > But you remove categorisations and at the same time want the deletion of such > pages as KDE/Applications. You take that out of context... by categorized, its referring to that category hierarchy where one can navigate the categories to where the desired information is. Not large tagging categories that encompass everything. These type of categories do not assist in organization that well. If thats the page that I'm thinking of, it was some small little page that had about 4 useless links. The articles can be found in the Applications category. If a user wants to find apps, they go to the sitemap, application, pick the type of app and there is their app pages. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Use 1-Click Install on wiki wherever possible...
by Josh 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

Rajko M. wrote: > I guess Beineri reverted changes, but you can check again did he catched all. > > What I do is to check twice before I do changes as reverting them is a lot of > work to find them first, than to check in the history that someone else did > not edited articles in the meantime as simple revert can make more mess. > > Editing wiki is not that easy. The moment I realized that was the moment I > created Portal page, but even that is asking for a lot of work. Yes, he got all of them I believe, I just fixed one of them. That is definitely a good idea to check over twice. And yes, editing the wiki is a lot of work so double checking is good to prevent need for reverts. I'll take a break so I don't cause any more trouble this weekend. :) Thanks. I hope my idea for the hierarchy wasn't too far-fetched and that it is a least a step in the right direction! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] "Wiki Overhaul Weekend" suggestion for accelerated wiki cleanup
by Josh 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

Stephan Binner wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2008 00:36:42 Joshua Levesque wrote: > >> I have brought this to a few different areas of the openSuSE >> community and was directed here. > > Can you please explain why you are throwing categories like KDE away!? I figure the articles should be categorized as specifically as possible. Categories like KDE and GNOME contain a large variety of different types of articles that can be further categorized. Much of these 2 categories were the meetings which should then be categorized under the meetings category. The meetings category is then separated by KDE_meetings and GNOME_meetings since these two groups are of the largest. Rather than looking at the categories as tags, I'm taking them as a bit of a hierarchy as of now to make the categorization a bit more organized. Once this has made some improvement, all encompassing tag-like categories such as KDE may return. Other articles that were in the KDE category that needed to be further categorized where all the KDE app descriptions. These articles find a better home under the Application category under their respective application type. I think it will be much easier to navigate the wiki if articles are categorized as specifically as possible and we don't have such large encompassing tag-like categories. This way, one can go to the site-map page and start from the few top level categories and navigate to the desired section without much confusion. Also, by categorizing articles as specific as possible, this may set an example for new article authors to categorize their articles properly rather than generically. A place for generic kde description articles and such could be put in a Applications->Desktop Enviroments->KDE category. My apologies if I caused any problems. I'm doing my best to put some sensible organization in a site that I find very valuable and hope by instituting some sort of hierarchy of categories, others such as new opensuse users can easily navigate the wiki and find exactly what they are looking for. Again, sorry if an there is any trouble. If you have any suggestions, please do let me know. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Use 1-Click Install on wiki wherever possible...
by Josh 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

Rajko M. wrote: > [[ru:Communicate/Mailinglists]] > [[pt:Communicate/Mailinglists]] > The above 2 point to > http://ru.opensuse.org/Mailinglists and > http://pt.opensuse.org/Mailinglists Oh wow, those must of went when I was doing some merging. Sorry about that, I did not realize that. Have those been added back or would you like me reinsert them? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Use 1-Click Install on wiki wherever possible...
by Josh 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

Patrick Shanahan wrote: > except for my added quote marks "> " above is what you are sending, > short lines, unexpected extra (unintended I beleive) blank lines ... > > sorry, cannot help you with tbird configs as I haven't ever used it. > I use mutt. > > gud luk, Alright, thats cool, maybe someone else knows. I swear I fixed it this time, if I haven't, I give you all permission to lynch me (Crossing my fingers). I extended all of yahoo's char limits and thunderbird's is set to around 80. I hope that fixes it. I feel like an idiot posting all these off topic posts due to my inability to format my e-mail's decently. Anyways, anyone reading this, I was hoping that possibly I could get some people to help me start organizing the categories a bit. Take a look at my talk page (Last2kn0) and see what I'm working on and a bit of my brain dump. If you have any questions or suggestions on the outline, please do feel free to ask. To the original topic: Once the quirks with the one-click install stuff is worked out. Anyone who wants to add some one click links, like I said, the Applications category is a nice place to start. This category contains pages that describe different apps. Again, this is after the bugs are cleared up! Ok here I go, I'm praying this doesn't get all messed up! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Old error when asking for image
by Rajko M. 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

URL: http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/4/4d/printer_jsmeix_overview.png Firefox is OK. Konqueror: Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. If you entered the URL manually please check your spelling and try again. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404 files.opensuse.org Mon Feb 18 19:44:29 2008 Apache -- Regards, Rajko. See http://en.opensuse.org/Portal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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